Grab your Ganeshas and collect your cats: The Elderberry Pavlovas in the Quest for the New Year clusterdiff (thread 25)

[happylass]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

The cast list:

Gillster, 40, TTC since Feb 2012. Had IVF in Feb 14 and had 6 one cell embies frozen due to polyp. Cancelled FET cycles in Sept 14 and Dec 14 due to more polyps. Awaiting hysteroscopy before commencing natural cycle FET. Hoping to be at least PUPO on the 4th attempt!
Happylass 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 unsuccessful cycle of ICSI September '14. Starting cycle 2 in January.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.
Tigerdog 34, ttc 21 months. Unexplained after all tests and currently on waiting list for IVF.
Beaky 34 (35 next Thursday ) ttc since aug 2012. Unexplained with recurring cysts and adenomyosis. 1 failed IUI, long protocol IVF to start 5th January.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC since August 2011, unexplained. 1st cycle of IVF chemical. Had a break over the summer.
WildflowerMarmalade , 40, TTC 3 years, unexplained, underactive thyroid + immune issues. Sept IUI - BFN. Due to start IVF in Jan
Lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 11 without a sniff of bfp, unexplained, two cycles of IVF in 2014, both cycles bfn, taking 6 months off before reviewing clinics, hoping to take a 'kitchen sink' approach at a different clinic.
Otters 32, ttc since March 2012, no natural ovulation. Clomid cycle 5 BFP, then missed miscarriage. Clomid cycle 9 BFP, then miscarriage. Clomid 10-13 BFN. Gonal-f Cycles 1-3 BFN. IVF waiting list, hoping to start May 2015.
Kuma - 40. TTC 2 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and two cancelled IVFs Nov and Dec 14 due to poor blood results. Hoping for another try at natural cycle IVF end of Jan.
Rain, 33, ttc since March 2012. Unexplained. Natural BFP Oct 2013 - MMC Nov 2013. Nothing since. IVF referral expected end of Dec.
mmmminx, 34, TTC over a year: endo, adhesions, cysts mean tubes blocked and kinked, lap in jan to examine what state everything is in and next steps
Tammy 39, been trying for just over 2 years, had a BFP November 2013 but miscarriage in January this year.

Right you all have permission to post now . Did my best with the list (whilst trying to hide ipad from my hairdresser). Apologies if I've missed anyone off.

So the meds arrived today for our next cycle. Freaked me out a bit as last time we just picked them up from the clinic as we went along. Didn't really realise how much there was . Taking some kind of vaginal 'tablet' this time instead of Cyclogest. They come with a lovely vaginal applicator. Anyone else used these?? Hoping they'll elimate the waxy pants issue!!

There you go. This is what £1200 of IVF drugs look like

Where did you buy them from? Did you try Asda? I have heard they sell them at cost.

Pip because we had a 2 cycle package we had to get them through the FC who take a 'small' cut. A total rip off. Would have been over £500 cheaper from Asda and a couple of hundred cheaper if we'd gone direct to the supplier we used rather than going through the FC. DH is and swears he is going to make a complaint about them when this is all over!

Oh the glamour of vaginal applicators happy!!! Can't believe the variation in pricing - obviously pharma companies have to make their profit but for clinics to them be sticking another profit margin on top, considering how expensive ivf is anyway, is just ridiculous. It's not like this is a cosmetic procedure FFS. Thanks for the shiny new fred btw!

One of my cats sits on me all the time, she must have a duff diff detector (trying saying that 5 times as fast as you can!).
The other one, on the other hand, NEVER sits with either of us. If he ever deigns to stop by for a lap cuddle I won't even need a pg test!

Are the drugs free on the NHS btw?

On my NHS cycle the drugs were included happy but on our last cycle we got them from Asda (strangest and most expensive shop I have ever done there)

Thanks for the lovely new thread, am going to party here for the next couple of weeks over Christmas

Ooh, lovely, lovely new thread. Thank you Happy

So how exactly do you go about buying fertility drugs from Asda? Do you have to order them at the nearest Asda pharmacy or what? I definitely want to get the dugs from somewhere other than the FC this time around, need to cut costs where possible.

Robert Winston was on the radio a while back saying how much of a rip off IVF cycles are. He was very scathing of the way private cycles promote the thing where they have a camera on your embryo 24/7.
He said that a full cycle could be done for about £500!

I feel so very lucky that we got three fully funded NHS cycles. I've not paid a penny.

Thank you for the new home Happy

Pricing of treatment sucks. I took my prescription for the microgygan to Boots and felt pretty smug the hat I'd only paid £5 until the lady pointed out that it was only for one months supply and that the contraceptive is normally free. Man did I feel stupid!

Ah the Embryoscope Pip. That's included 'free of charge' with our cycle. It's just the rest of the treatment that costs £4k!! If I was younger I would wait for the NHS, just don't think we've got time to waste

Wild DH just rang up our local Asda pharmacy last week for prices. I've also heard good things about Healthcare at Home and Central Pharmacy. Make sure you factor in syringes and sharps boxes though as apparently these aren't always included. I have enough syringes to start up my own pharmacy. For some reason even though each box of Menopur is only 3.2 doses they each come with 18 syringes. Wtf?

Hello! cheers to the new thread. I didn't mess it up or anything.

That's a lot of drugs happy! How come you're changing from the cyclogest for this cycle?

I'm very cynical about the motivations of private healthcare providers - profits are not always compatible with the needs of the patient.

lumen I'll be partying with you!

Welcome to tammy, hopefully you'll find your way over to this new thread. Make yourself at home! Sorry to hear of your struggles and hope you find some support here.

I need a Christmas cheer boost, family seem determined to be difficult at the moment. Deep breaths and positive thinking required! Very painful and heavy af not helping either.

Thanks for the new thread. It's getting a bit like Now albums, the number seems to have got an awful lot bigger than I'd like it to be; I'm sure we were single figures when I started posting

I was here before we were berries!

Oo lovely new thread Happy! Cheers

Sorry about shitty AF and family crap Tiger how did your dh get on with the i/v? I feel like it's gonna be a good year in the Tiger household in 2015

Happy wow that's not much for £1200!! Apparently the embryoscope is really good as they can predict which embryos will do better from it but my knowledge is limited

Pip did you not even have to pay for your prescriptions? I have paid the normal £8 for the buserelin so far, phew! I am also grateful for 3 ivfs and the FET's (if I get any frosties!) I am very lucky in that respect.

Rain my aunties cat has a duff diff detector! He sits on me all the effin time.

Tammy welcome! Sorry you are here though but it's the best place to be for the likes of us!

Me and dh are spending way too much time on dogs trust looking at the pooches. Tiger is it really really hard to take a pup back after fostering them for a while?

Nope Beaky all drugs were dispensed either by the clinic directly or posted to me.

Thanks for the new thread Happy. Maybe add Barking and Funky when you get a chance? You can also add the up and coming treatment list with the necessary amendments.

Welcome Tammy, , make yourself comfy and hope you're not around for too long (in the nicest possible way).

I've only paid prescription charges for my IVF drugs which were £40 for my fresh cycle and £16 for each FET. The only benefit of being such a good responder to oestrogen (the cause of all my bloody polyps) is that I still have a small vial of Menopur left which is in the fridge next to the beer!

It seems like the ball may be rolling in the hysteroscopy department. Got a phone call today booking me in for an appointment with the doc this Thurs and a pre op assessment appointment on the 23rd. Don't have a date for the op but wouldn't have thought it would be too long after the 23rd.

Do you have accommodation sorted for your new job Tiger or are you going to commute initially next year?

Maybe I should stop numbering the threads as its just depressing please don't let me still be here in another 25 threads time

Tiger I'm not sure why I've moved off the Cyclogest. Just trying something different to justify the extortionate cost I suspect.

Beaky on the last cycle we were told that the Embryoscope hadn't picked up any unusual activity in the development of any of our embies. I think it had though those embryos may not have been used.

I guess if we do need NHS treatment then at least well save £8 as there aren't any prescription charges here in Wales. The downside is, of course, that we have to wait 18 months to get the treatment

Gill great news that your hysteroscopy may be soon! Fx for you.

Happy you had a really good grade of embies too didn't you? When does your next cycle start?

Healthcare at home were flipping shocking! We had them try to delude our Ivf drugs about 4 times, bloody hopeless. I'm convinced they probably wasted 3 lots of our drugs through missed deliveries on their part. The box was refrigerated so makes me think Some of them probably spoiled by spending too long out of the fridge. I said to our nurse about how bad they were & she did not sound at all surprised and said they were trying to switch their supplier as it's costing them loads. I didn't have to pay any prescription prices for our Ivf, only thing we paid for was to freeze one of our embryos just in case.

happy is that mumsnet on in the background on your laptop?

Ah good to know Bushy. If we do ever have another private cycle we'll definitely be getting our own drugs. We were told our meds came from a company called Stork but all the paperwork says BioMeds. Whacked a £55 service charge on to the bill as well cheeky feckers! Yes MN on the iPad. I'd just had a mammoth session sorting out the list!
Beaky I stop taking the Northisterone on Jan 8th which will cause a bleed a few days later. All being well I'll start stabbing on day 2/3 of that bleed so probably around Jan 13th.
Had a bit of a melt down last night. Think it was the sight of all the drugs followed by 2 FB pg announcements
Only 3 more days left in school for me. Bring it on! Have a good one ladies!

FB pg announcements are the worst Happy. Hugs.

I think Healthcare at Home are the ones who have delivered all my drugs in the past. Never had a problem with them so maybe some depots operate better than others.

nice thread, thanks happy! just marking my spot. failed to update on the weekend due to exhaustion and not addiction to the fall whatever you hear. big deadline on friday so can relax after that. welcome to newbies!