Struggling to conceive No.2 after getting pregnant easily first time round

[Metalhead]

Still here, still struggling on, still hoping to get there in the end. Come on ladies, we'll all get our BFPs in 2015 (if not before)!

Aw brindler it's tough isn't it. I had an announcement on my newsfeed yesterday as well. One day (hopefully soon!) it will be us!

I posted on another thread tonight, I was checking back my tracker app and my cycles are anything between 29-45 days long - I've been having these dull aches like mild AF cramps since Monday now, tender boobs, hungrier than usual and a tiny part of me is wondering could I have ovulated earlier this month and this is something else.... It'll be just me getting my hopes up again, I know. I just can't get it out of my head :( Mother Nature can be a real pain sometimes!

Yep definitely tough cinnamon!

I love a bit of symptom spotting! Hope this thread has brought you some early luck! My cycles were pretty irregular to begin with - anything between 25 and 35 days but settled down recently to just a couple of days either side. Have you been to the docs to get checked yet? Well worth doing if you haven't already although I've just about exhausted my nhs entitlement!

I haven't been to the docs, no. I guess maybe I should but it feels like admitting there's a problem which is stupid, I know. It's not been quite a year yet (it will be in June) I guess if I've no BFP by then I will have to go to the docs. It's good to have buddies on here to share this with, I'd be driving DH demented, he just keeps saying it will happen when the time is right!

Well, the time's not right here this month, that's for sure. Back to the drawing board....

Aw littlepoot, I'm sorry. The disappointment never gets easier does it x

Not much easier, although I don't think it's as raw for me as the first year of trying. But what I hate most is the fact that you find out you're not pregnant at the point you already look and feel at your worst! Bloated, achy, spotty, grumpy-then another kick in the teeth! Seems overly harsh to me.

Sorry little. I hope you've got something nice planned for the long weekend to cheer yourself up.

Ahh so sorry little. And totally know where you're coming from with the double blow. I hope you have wine! Xx

Thanks Metal. I'm actually ovulating around the right time, it's just that my luteal phase seems short. I wasn't tracking closely before the soy, but that definitely shortened my cycle, so I'm wondering if I should try agnus castus or maca. Has anyone tried them?

Sorry Little. Sigh, it's crap isn't it?

Flying back to the UK tomorrow and just looked at the weather forecast. Mistake...

Hi ladies how are you all doing? Hope you all managed to enjoy the long weekend!

Well my lap seems to have totally messed up my cycle as I've had no positive opks and lots of random spotting. So looks like another lost month for me!

Hi Brindler, sorry to hear that, it's all a mystery to me. We're in The Zone so we shall see. I'm going to do some research on agnus castus and maca over the next week or so and then maybe try one or the other next month as the soy seems to have really mucked me about.

We got a phone call from the hospital while we were on hols asking what we wanted to do, so we're forking out for some more targeted testing and will take it from there. Will wait a couple of months before we do that though and make a concerted effort on diet and exercise. We will plod on but I suspect it's not going to happen for us.

I feel the same Burning. Been told to try for 6 more months then go for ivf although still uncertain if we will. Have got some inositol waiting for me at the post office so will give that a go and see if it brings the same magic to me as it did to metal! Anything that doesn't cost as much as ivf is worth a try in my eyes!

I'm not sure we'd go for IVF either, given our age I can't see it being that successful.

Good luck with the inositol. I'm going for a "normal" month this time to see if I just need to stop tinkering, then I'm taking all the supplements in the world. Might have to buy some shares in Holland and Barrett!

I'm the same with ivf - at 40 the chances of it working, and being a healthy, successful pregnancy, are low enough to make the money too much of a risk for me. Let alone the emotional/physical side. I think I need to up my supplements though - apart from conception vits (which seem to really help me avoid pmt) and ovulation sticks, I'm really slacking here! Apart from inositol, what should I stock up on?! Although I think the worst thing for me is the fact I'm always stressed. Work is a nightmare - yet again. And that I really don't know how to solve (without throwing all my toys out of the pram and quitting!).

Had a really miserable weekend. Period was late but obviously imminent. And it always leaves me feeling so crappy for a couple of days. And with work stuff on top, I'm just not feeling the love right now.

Oh little you could actually be me!!! Sounds like you've had a tough month. And everytime I have a tough time I turn to comfort food and wine!

My inositol arrived this morning. Going to start taking it tomorrow. My cycle this month has been constant spotting. I'm guessing it was the laparoscopy but also wondering if it's the sudden stopping of my supplements. Was taking folic acid, b6 and b12. Dabbled in soy for a couple of months but it didn't seem to help me.

Hope all works out for you both. Please stay in touch I feel like this thread is dwindling! Xx

Yes yes to the comfort food. As I've been so good recently and have dropped a few pounds, I've been trying not to have snack food in the house. But then I just take a spoon to the peanut butter jar instead, so I don't think it's made any difference! The only thing that ever kept my appetite in check was smoking, and I don't think starting that back up is going to help my chances is it?! x

Oh gawd yes, comfort food. I'm supposed to be shifting the holiday weight (and more!) but not sure a jaffa cake is part of that equation...

LittlePoot, have you thought about mindfulness meditation for the stress? It's more of a coping strategy really, just taking a few minutes out. I don’t really suffer too much with stress but sometimes do some little exercises on my commute to prepare for the day. Obviously not a good idea if you drive in...

Metal posted somewhere upthread about her concoction of supplements. I've read a little about maca and vitex, evening primrose oil, vitamin c, b vits... There are loads, and I suppose it depends on what you are trying to fix. For me I want to lengthen my lp so I'm not sure inositol would help..?

Yes, definitely hope you two stick with the thread!

Gosh burning - are you me?! I have tried mindfulness through an app I got through work last year, and it definitely does help. But I haven't managed to make it a habit yet so when I get busy and tired, it's the first thing to go. Must pick it up again - I think it could be the ideal thing for me.

As for the supplements - the problem is, the only thing I'm trying to fix is the fact I'm not bloody pregnant yet! Ovulation and periods are entirely regular, although maybe a bit light. Husbands little swimmers were a little dodgy so he's on the man vits. Other than that, there's no reason at all it's not working - apart from the fact it's obviously not working. Maybe I should just take them all and see what happens....

Or maybe I should just order us an extra large deep pan pizza with a vitex stuffed crust and topped with spicy soy, mixed b vits, and a sprinkling of inositol. That should do the trick! ??

Extra cheese for me! x

I am totally up for that, knackered today and craving anything I don't have to cook. Temp rise this morning though so we're out of the Zone. I already have my jogging bottoms on and am dreaming of an early night!

Hello ladies, how is everyone? I'm still here, not been posting as have really been all over the place :( Been having dull aches and a sort of dragging feeling, pinches in my cervix, backache, tiredness, crying at the slightest thing, sore boobs, all for two weeks now. I've been having the strangest dreams and I just feel weird, I can't explain it - like I just feel really unsettled or something. I just feel all over the place. I'm due on today but nothing so far, just the same feelings I've been having for two weeks now. I ordered some tests from the Internet (can't afford to keep paying £10 a pop!) and am hoping they might arrive with the post today or tomorrow. I'm trying desperately not to get my hopes up but at the same time I can't let go of the hope that this might be our month. Xx

Ahh Cinnamon sorry to hear you're not feeling great, but fingers crossed it's a good sign! The 2ww really is evil isn't it. Hope you get an answer either way soon - keep us updated!

Af is due to arrive for me sometime this week although wondering how much my lap has messed me up as just had continual spotting all cycle and no positive ovulation test so we'll see

Hello All. Sorry to hear you're going through the mill Cinammon, but agree it sounds hopeful. You've got to keep hoping haven't you, or we wouldn't put ourselves through it all!

I didn't bother temping at the weekend so my chart is dodgy, but my temp doesn't really look high enough so I don’t think it's on for us. Still got another week to wait though...

Thank you so much Birndler and Burning. Clear blue digital confirmed to me this morning that I am in fact pregnant! I just cannot believe it after so many crushing disappointments I was steeling myself for the big horrible "Not Pregnant" to appear but it didn't! I think I am in shock. Keep checking the test to see the words are still there and have taken a pic!

I really hope all you lovely ladies on her get your BFPs soon x