Struggling to conceive No.2 after getting pregnant easily first time round

[Metalhead]

Still here, still struggling on, still hoping to get there in the end. Come on ladies, we'll all get our BFPs in 2015 (if not before)!

Welcome back metal hope you had a fab holiday apart from the bag being nicked. I was very tempted to pop tesco earlier for atest but am determined to wait as by wed that would be latest af has ever arrived. good luck with the dtd every 2 days that is the approached we went for this time as I keep winding myself up with opks.

well I caved in and got a frer today just done the test and I cant believe it, its a bfp. not even told husband yet. question is will it be a sept baby again or wss last months 2 day bleed implantation? will get doc appiontment as soon as can.

I knew it! Congratulations lovemy, lovely news to start the new year with!

We've had some good news too, the person who took our suitcase has got in touch and I'll hopefully be able to pick it up tomorrow.

How lovely to read on here so quickly that someone has had a bfp. How long have you been trying lovemyboy? That has really made me happy and given me enthusiasm for this year. Congratulations.

I knew it! Congratulations love and fingers crossed for a serenely smooth ride from here on in.

And great news for you too metal -so glad you haven't lost all that stuff. I know it's only stuff, but to be able to avoid all the faff of replacing it is great.

Af here though right on time so back to the drawing board. Starting to despair a little, but I still need to drop the extra half a stone (plus Christmas excesses!) to be back to normal bmi and see if that makes any difference. Keep changing my mind as to whether we should try ivf. Apart from the fact we can't afford it, my biggest worry is the high risk of chromosomal abnormalities given that I'm nearly thirty -ten (denial) and have already had a previous pregnancy with downs syndrome. Would be pretty nightmarish to pay so much money and then end up having to consider terminating. So hard to make decisions when there's no one right answer!

thank you ladies. just been tesco to get a cb digi weeks indicator but I camt wee now. will do it when I need to wee though.
So pleased your case is being returned metal nothing more annoying than loosing possesions like that. joeyWe have been ttc since july aug ish but properly ttc since sept.little dont give up hope I can understand your worries though just leaving off the opks worked for me. xxx

have done the digi. it says 2-3 weeks which is 5 weeks , works out right if I had bleed 30th nov. so looks like due week befoe ds 2nd birthday. got doc appiont wed am. x

I'm the same little regarding IVF; it would wipe out a huge chunk of our savings and it's not even guaranteed to work. I think I would be utterly devastated and also plain angry if we spent that much money and didn't get a BFP, or I had another miscarriage. I'm not even sure if I want another baby anymore, I keep swinging between thinking actually one is fine (I've never really been the 'maternal type') and feeling really sad at the thought of never having another. Long term ttc really messes with your head, doesn't it?!

Congratulations lovemy wonderful news :) We might even end up on the same antenatal thread!!

Congratulations Lovemy that's fantastic news. Wishing you an eventless 9 months. Xx

Metal -yes it does!! You're saying about lot of the things I'm thinking at the moment. I've never really been sure I want another baby, but I do want my ds to have a sibling, more for when they're both a bit older really. But whatever I think one way or the other, I'm left with this overwhelming urge to succeed at becoming pregnant. Probably part biological clock and part just plain stubbornness! And anger at the fact there's just no logical reason it hasn't happened any time over the past 18 months, but my Dr is seemingly uninterested in investigating any other avenues. I'm seeing her again in a couple of weeks to get the results of my scans (but I think I already know the results from talking with the sonographers) and am going to push her more on the biochemical side. Like, what if there's no problem with fertilisation but embryos just aren't implanting (which would explain my super light periods and why I get crazy pregnancy symptoms most months). I can't believe with all the advances in medicine that there isn't more to try. Don't they give you progesterone to help implantation in ivf? Might that help? I'm not expecting much though -she certainly gave the impression last time that is basically ivf or keep trying with nothing in between. Feeling really low about it all at the moment. And work is crap too! Need to pick myself up and do something about something -just haven't worked out what yet!

Hello to everyone else and sorry for being so self absorbed today. It's kind of quiet round here - lots of lucky ladies and their bfps and not many of us sad cases left behind!

Hi everyone, I'm sorry I haven't read the full thread as trying to do 10 things at once, was going to start my own thread but the title of this one pretty much sums it up for me, conceived dd the first month after stopping the pill in 2010, been trying again since June this year and nothing. I know it's not a long time in the grand scheme of things but I feel it's completely taking over my life, it's all I think about. My OH is very relaxed about it and says it will happen when if happens, but I'm quite a negative person anyway and beginning to think it will just never happen my 4 year old is desperate to be a big sister, she asks non stop when we can have a baby and I don't know what to say, I feel like I am letting her down. Every month I imagine symptoms and spend a fortune on tests, this month I have started to have cramping/pain in hip/pain in lower back over a week before my period is due and 5/6 dpo. I'm sure it's just my period going to start early but a tiny part of me thinks maybe I could be pregnant I know deep down I'm not. Wow sorry for waffling on! Don't feel like I can talk to anybody about it in rl, apart from oh, and have mentioned to my doctor but she's very unconcerned and said we couldn't be referred for tests until we had been trying for a year. I feel like if I knew we were both ok/no problems I would be more relaxed about it but as it is I'm convinced something is wrong. Sorry for going on ladies!

im 4dpo here and not feeling it. :( i was sure this month was it ( i know its too early to tell but sometimes you just know dont you)

metalhead and littlepoot I feel exactly the same as you. When we started ttc #2 I was very laid back about it and really felt that I wouldn't mind either way if it happened or not. Now that it's been 18 months, I want it out of sheer bloody-mindedness - I will not fail!! Some days when my toddler is playing up I totally decide that I'm happy with just one, and thank god we've got over those early baby days. Other days I really want to do it all over again!! What a roller coaster of emotions and mixed feelings.

metal , little and joey I can totally relate to what you're saying! A part of me longs for a baby but then I think its more about DD having a sibling & that was mostly why I was so determined to keep trying as well as not wanting to fail. I'm so confused by it all because I'm finding my decision to give up tough, especially now as I'll soon be coming in to my fertile window & I can't helping hoping that me & oh we'll have a random night of passion because we want to & not because its the right time. I feel jealous of those who've had second babies & that their children have a sibling. DD has not mentioned having a brother and sister (yes she wanted one of each) for ages now and never bothers with babies so that should tell me something. I just wish this pull towards wanting another would go away!

Hello all and and massive congratulations on the bfps. I've stepped away from the ovulation sticks this month as was getting a bit obsessed. Trying to be laid back and been reading about benefits of one child!

Good Iuck to all in 2ww and esp to poco on the last try. Welcome Joey too. I'm 42 now so feel odds against me though friends had one at 46 naturally a couple of years ago.

Xx

Hi and welcome livs, I know how hard it is when your DC asks for a sibling, my DD went through a phase a few months ago where she constantly talked about being a big sister and it felt like twisting the knife every time. Thankfully she's stopped again now!

As for tests and knowing there are no problems, I can't say that it's helped me at all, it just makes you think 'well wtf isn't it happening then?!'.

Anything's possible still poco, fx you are wrong and this is your month.

bobsy maybe your DH will start to notice that you're having less sex and actually instigate it himself for once? I know you said he has a low sex drive, but maybe he's got used to doing it more now these last few months..? You never know, it only takes once! (As happened with my last pregnancy.)

I should be coming into my fertile window now, though I'm not tracking anything other than cm and general ov pain/sore boobs this month. So far it seems to be working and I'm not as stressed, but we'll have to wait and see what the 2ww will be like.

I'm much the same as you have all described. It took me a while to come round to the idea of another child (DH had always wanted as many as poss ) and when I did it was mostly as I think ds would love a sibling. Since I committed to that decision though I have set my heart on it and can't go back!
Little I have read also that they prescribe progesterone pessaries (sp?) after they have put the embryo/blasto back in but didn't know it was for implantation. I have a similar worry to you as ever since having ds (and emergency ERPC) my periods have been long and very light. I have seen GP and had blood tests and have scan booked for 16th to investigate.
You can buy progesterone cream off the internet and it's mentioned quite a bit on natural fertility info sites but I don't know of anyone who's actually used it to ask feedback. Maybe someone on here has??

thankd for all the well wishes ladies I hope you all get your bfps too. I seen doc been given d date as 8th September. what antenatalvthread you on loves?

I've got a follow-up appointment with the fertility consultant next Monday, might ask them about progesterone cream goodegg. Though I expect all they'll say is that as all the tests have come back fine there is nothing more they can do.

I'm on the sept one. I wasn't sure at first thought it might be tempting fate but I've decided to go for it and be excited and deal with the fallout if the worst happens!

ladies with your bfps what were you like around 5dpo?
I am a bit weepy and bleugh today, feeling some twinges in my ovarian region... please offer me a little ray of hope?

Hello, can I join you all?

I didn't realise this thread existed, I've just posted here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2276376-Hit-a-brick-wall-Can-anybody-give-me-a-bit-of-hope

regarding how crap I feel about TTC no 2

My DD is 7, and I'm just waiting to OV on cycle 11

I'm fed up of the whole thing to be honest, though it goes without saying I'm desperate for a baby. TTC is just so SHIT.

Of course you can mountainygirl, and welcome livsmummy and joey too. TTC is shit isn't it, and I just still can't believe I'm still at it after 18 months when I got pregnant 3 times in 7 months to get baby number one. I was expecting problems staying pregnant, but at least had the confidence I could get pregnant easily. Grrrr.

Metal - do let me know what your consultant says about progesterone (or any other glimmers of hope) - I'm seeing mine the week after so it'd be good to go armed with any additional stuff we can find out. There has to be something. I'm also intrigued to know how you and crispiecrunchie get on with being laid back and not testing this month (and you bobsy - I do hope your dh realises what he's missing....). Although I don't get too stressed out by testing for ov - at least it means I know when the 2ww actually is and don't get my hopes up I'm pregnant when actually I just ovulate later than expected. But if all of you get pregnant that way this month then maybe I'll have to re-evaluate!

Metal- Hope it all goes well for you with consultant. Little dont give up hope. im gonna lurk in background as I want to see yhe thread where you annouse your bfps. im sure it will happen. You too bobsy.xxx