On The 12th Day of Xmas My Viroids Gave To Me 12 OPKs 11 New Positions 10 Symptom Spots 9 Pics Of Cats 8 TMI's 7 Shag Stories 6 Cervix Positions 5 Temp Charts 4 Hooyas 3 DPO 2 Gx and an Xmas BFP!JS 35

[jellypi3]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied and adapted from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others. Also know as 'the witch', 'bitch witch' and 'that one with the red shiny convertible'

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in! PONF = Pee on Nigel Farage. Self explanatory, who wouldn't?

ROC - Receptacle of Choice - what one chooses to use for the task of POAS. Option decorations include photographs of political leaders.

JIAC = Jizz in a Cup. Preferable to jizz on the carpet or jizz in the eye. This one's for the lucky men in our lives.

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession. Warning - this may happen to you if you start trying to POAS at 5dpo. PUT. THE. PISSY. STICK. DOWN. IT'S TOO EARLY!

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture. AKA Schroedinging!
TWPU - Two Week Piss Up!

Keeping your gingers = fingers crossed, yet another autocorrect development! Shortened to 'gx'

Doing A lemon = Testing WAAAAAAAY to early!

The link to Part 33 is here

The current Grads Fred is here

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is here. We are the dark side of MN. Welcome.

Happy Christmas shagging, shaggers!

FF people, going back to my lack of Ice confirmation.

This morning i had another increase in temp so am now above my previous high erractic temps. if it increases the next 2 days again should i then get my confirmation? and should it go back to when my temp started to increase. i.e i think i should be on 5DPO today, will FF "back date" like that?

Still feeling frustrated and not knowing if i'm kicking out eggs or not :-/

Welcome Gakay and sorry about your MC's

kh don't stress out, as lil said that can be counter productive.

Morning all, and welcome gakay - I'm so sorry for your losses - you're in good company here - lots of JSers have been through MC...I'm also going through my second...missed MC, showing no heartbeat at 10 week scan on Saturday. Hospital gave me pills to 'get things moving', and on Monday afternoon I experienced the most painful, horrific 3 hours of my life...puking, diarrhoea, pain to the point of passing out, and heavy bleeding. I'd think twice before taking the option again.

Anyway, we've decided to give it a break over the WTF cycle and get back on the JSing horse in the new year.

Here are my stats again, since I've been out for a while:
Name: BothersomeB
Age: 40
TTC: Since July 2013
DC: 0, MC Oct 2013, MMC Dec 2014

I know jelly and thank you!!! guess i need a hooyah!! just a couple more days till i know i suppose. i'm impatient can you tell!??! lol

Haha we are all a bit impatient :) Stressing is just going to do your body harm (coming from a self confessed stress head).

When are you due to test / AF due?

not till Tuesday by my calcs. I guess you had an excuse this cycle not knowing if AF was AF and us all egging you on! when are you due to test/AF?

Well today is day 18, and my last cycle (assuming mini af was AF) was 17 days. So good news is I'm already on a longer cycle than before.

So if my cycles are 24 days (which they were for one cycle before mini af) then I am due on Tuesday. If they are 28 days (which my first cycle was since AF returned after depo) then I am due on 20th. However, if I ovulated Monday (when I spotted EWCM) then 14DPO will be 22nd!

So basically it's a waiting game for me hahaha! (I've probs invoked LoS now and will get AF arrive today)

oh bloomin eck!! feel bad now for obsessing - you really don't know what is going on do you!? so if the witch stays away are you going to try and wait for the 22nd or let us talk you into something earlier?

Haha no I am going to wait! I didn't get too disheartened by the BFN's this time round but it's not something I want to see too constantly. I'll wait till the 22nd if no AF :) Might be an xmas pressie lol!

I do have a feeling she's on her way though. Still got the stabby boobs, still feeling a bit sick, so reckon it's all hormonal and the witch will come a-riding this weekend probably!

jelly I'm due AF this week so you will be in good company.

We can all indulge in some together :)

Mulled wine? Well it would be rude not too

In the last fred I was pregnant. In this one... I'm not. I've been bleeding brown blood since Sunday and since yesterday it's been bright red.

I'm awaiting a call from the GP to confirm the results of my second HCG blood test, which I know will have decreased. I woke up on Saturday morning feeling anxious for no good reason and I think I knew.

I'm having a miscarriage.

On no Commander, massive hugs to you. Do you have people around you support you through this? I can't imagine what it's like.

am so sorry commander like jelly says, i can't imagine what it's like but hope you have some support around you?

Some support. Friends are being wonderful but DH doesn't get it. As far as he's concerned it wasn't a baby as it was only 5 1/2 weeks. But it was to me.

So sorry commander. I'm so glad you have some support, even if dh doesn't quite understand. And you are right... It was a baby, so give yourself time to grieve.

And Gakay welcome, but so sorry for the circumstances you find yourself in.

kh ff moved me back a day this morning based on temp, so don't worry, it will right itself.

Jelly i should be due around the 17th. If no AF then i'll try to hold out as long as i can but not sure i can last till 22nd... Thought if last bfp is anything to go by, i will be able to tell. Mega crampy and solid boobs!

So we are all due AF around the same sort of time? Mulled vino for everyone!

Commander I'm so sorry. We're all here for you

KH it can take a couple of extra days for FF to confirm the pattern - your chart was quite spikey so bit tougher to establish the pattern. Mine did this last month & it confirmed icing on 5DPO & backdated.

Welcome Gakay, sorry for your loss.

Commander sorry DH is being like that :( It was a baby regardless of how long. Rant as much as you like on here about him (or life in general). We're all here with virtual shoulders to cry on!

Thanks everyone. I know it was just never meant to be and it can't have been anything I did or didn't do, but I'm so scared it's because I had an EMCS and something's gone wrong.

Bother and Commander I'm so sorry for your losses. It's a truly horrible thing to happen.

Welcome Gakay, I'm sorry for your losses too

Welcome Gakay my heart goes out to you. Sadly quite a few of us have gone through mc. Two in row though is just so cruel

You'll get lots of support here for when you're ready to try again

bother it's nice to see you back. Hopefully the worst of the physical side is over now :(

commander I'm so sorry sweetheart, I was in your position in sept waiting for hcg tests to confirm what I knew in my heart. Sending you a hug. If you think your dh might read it there's a leaflet aimed at men on the mc association website. It helps them to understand how the woman is feeling and that to them it's a baby right from bfp so you need time to grieve. The mc association was a cushion for me, they have some good information on what to expect and when to try again xx

To add insult to injury, the bloods have come back as inconclusive because the first one was done when I visited my parents and the second at my home practice, so my GP thinks the former may be using different chemicals in the test (he says it's not uncommon, as does my mum, who is a trained phlebotomist!). It now hinges on Friday's scan, which could still be inconclusive as it's still early. Jesus wept.