TTC for 10 months, and all the rest. 10 plussers welcome.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

New thread full of the most amazing women.

Excellent news today. Nelly - woohoo, you did it. You are having a baybeeeeeee /s

Critter - oh wow, a flickering heart beat - that is the nicest, most wonderful news. This bean is a little fighter just like his/her mum. The bleeding was probably a sub chorionic haemorrhage. Sounds awful but usually harmless. Big hugs.

Euro - I had a mild mood dip about 4-5 months post birth too. I'm guessing its related to hormone readjustment but I really grieved about the sadness and loss I experienced TTC. I don't think it all gets resolved jut because a baby has arrived. I am very sure that things will turn a corner soon. You do have a lot of new changes to adapt to which will take up lots of mental thinking space. Allow yourself a little cry if you need to. It's astounding to think about everything you have been through. Maybe you, Mr Euro and Little Euro could have a change of scenery for a few days - a nice family mini-break might be something to plan / look forward to. Big hugs.

nelly I had 2 put back and my HCG was 1248 at 17dpo so it does vary as long as it goes up :) your progesterone sounds good to me, I think its roughly between 9 and 47, I spotted and bled a bit at the beginning and there was a doula on my FF page who deals alot with Penny and she put the fear of god in me about low levels so I started to use the jabs as well as the suppositories, in retrspect I realise that my levels were ok, oh and your progesterone level will drop after you eat too.

joy your BIL is a twat I think its sad he looks at parenting as stressful, it can be at times and it can be frustrating, but if you are not stressed by kids then you are likely to be stressed by work and other life events, I have been told I am way more relaxed since having BB

*sam I have had a look at my charting I will send them to you in a private message so you can have a look

As for Christmas it is shit when yo are in TTC hell, I have to say having a baby means I can stay at home and actually enjoy Christmas, not because I have a baby but I don't have to spend it with inlaws and we can actually do what we would like for a change

sam I have sent you a couple of charts hope they help :)

Thank you Buzzy. Am on my phone ATM and it all looks a bit muddled so will log on to the PC tomorrow to have a proper look. Yours looks far more stable than mine though, i think I need to work harder at always taking them at the same time :)

Still laughing at the idea of blaming my tears on a smelly fart. not too far from the truth, the girl I sit next to and who I'm training wears pumps and quite often has smelly feet! never been a fan of parmasan cheese!!!

gin, the sniffing has become second nature now though I'll never get used to that taste. I have an alarm on my phone for 8pm because I would forget and every night my oh says "babe, it's 8 o'clock" to which I think is sweet but at the same time (because the drugs affect my humour) I want to scream "no s#$t sherlock" bless him really! !

I haven't been given an ec date, however I have tried to work it out, based on I start stimming 4th Dec, scan booked for 12th, I think ec will be around 15th Dec. so all to plan i'll have an eventful and first ever sober Christmas!

hi everyone else hope critter and Nelly are relaxing a bit more tonight x

Buzzy that's interesting about progesterone dropping when you eat, I did read (too late) that I shouldn't have had breakfast before my test. and I'm definitely not panicking that your hcg levels were so high compared to mine

Fluffy, any sign of AF yet?

sam if its still jumbled then maybe I can just email them to you

nelly they vary a lot and I think both implanted but one didn't make it, yours is at the right level :)

fluffy hoping you do have a sober Christmas :)

nelly BFP! wooooooohooooooooooooooo! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Awesome news. I'm so incredibly happy for you. I hope you've digested your various head accoutraments ;) I loved the pic on the other place by the way

critter oh what lovely news. I hate that it's not been straight forward, but the twibling is fighting and growing and doing all the things s/he is supposed to be doing.

Euro I'm so sorry you're feeling low my periods came back at 6 months on the dot, which was a shock to me. They were different but the mood swings were bad. I guess hormones are everywhere, there's emotional and practical stuff to deal with and tiredness. You've taken on a lot, moving house is sooo stressful. I do hope you're able to take some time for yourself and that things improve soon

I've managed to get wifi and I was so pleased to log on and see good news for nelly and critter! What a happy day on the thread!

Morning. yes, af has arrived, and she is the worst thing I have ever had in my life! !! at least though I'm on the right track yay.

Thank you Buzzy, its not jumbled when I log on the pc, just the silly phone app!
I hope you don't mind, but I replied to your private message with a couple of questions. Xx

Ps. Slight name change :)

ray and joy I think it was you two that talked about change in lifestyle etc when you have a baby and managing, of course you will it just takes time but we have all managed to leave home, change jobs and some of have moved country, and you have adapted and that is what will happen when you have your babies, and baby related things will become the norm :)

Sorry about awful AF Fluffy. The drugs definitely do weird things to your body. Stimming on 4th December you said? That seems like quite a long time from now, I've not done Long Protocol but in my previous cycles I started stimming on about day 5. However given the fact you have had DR maybe that's normal; don't worry to add worry where none existed before, so perhaps the ladies who've done a similar cycle can advise! Sober Christmas for the right reasons can be a good thing.

Yip Bunny all your various chapeaus have been eaten . I'm a bit sick of roast hat now haha. It's not on the list of forbidden foods though, which is good news. Talking of which, it turns out I know NOTHING about being preggers. The obvious things, yes (don't drink, smoke crack I'm looking at you, crazy Athens lady or scoff pate and raw shellfish) but I've no idea what else I need to think about. It's amazing how much I have kept myself in a bubble for over 4 years. I literally have not gone past getting to a BFP.

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for putting up with my constant wittering this week and even letting me post a stripy hobnob pic. I'd have gone genuinely mental without you all . I'm going to try to back off the neediness a little now, as I know it's hard to read when you aren't over that particular hurdle yet. Please tell me if or when I post insensitive shite. But I genuinely believe those still waiting are just a tiny bit behind me. I foresee loads more BFPs in the next few months.

I do luffs you all

PS - from the safety of my own massive collection of hobnobs, I logged on to canyouseealine.com. I've never been on it before, but Ray and Joy in particular, you weren't wrong when you said most of them are invisible! Some of them seem to have quite high votes for yes and I swear there isn't anything there. It did make me realise why you said mine were quite clear though and I definitely didn't do another one today, oh no

Right I'm off out to stop me thread hogging again, which I just said I wasn't going to do....

nelly ha ha at hogging the thread, I think that is all you need to remember oh and some soft cheese I think is a no no, you will need to let your GP know so they can get things sorted for you with the hospital re booking in at the end of your first trimester :)

In other news I received a lovely email from my parents today they would like to skype, I am a bit freaked out, I thought we would just exchange emails for a bit

fluffy I would have thought you would start stimming sooner but could be wrong

I just confided in my mum (she knew we'd been trying anyway) so feeling a bit emotional at the moment - I'm fine until I talk about things! Lol. Was kind of a relief to say it out loud though as I'm sure she's been wondering, she has no advice though as they got bfp after 4 months which resulted in me!

Buzzy reply back and tell them that? It will be emotional one way or another and I would think impersonal email is an easier start? Remember, you're in control (I know you know this ) and get to call the shots. Good luck with it. It's good they've replied though. Xx

Sam well done for telling your mum. Don't worry, we can be here for the advice. Hopefully the fact she now knows will just be supportive for you.

Thanks Nelly, at least she'll be aware of changing the topic of conversation now if any other relatives ask the dreaded question!

On the plus side my Xmas party dress arrived in the post today, and it fits so that's one thing sorted! X

At the risk of sounding like a total stalker/gatecrasher, was hoping there might be room for another on this thread. More a reader than a poster, but feeling quite alone at the moment and dreading another childless Christmas. But I don't want to bring the vibe down as there seem to be happy things happening on here! Congratulations to joy nelly and critter! I have seen euro pop up on lots of threads over the years with lovely advice to strangers, so congrats to you too. Reading the thread is keeping my tiny bit of remaining hope alive.

To cut a long and uneventful intro short: TTC for 4 years, unexplained infertility, one MMC at 12 wks 18 months ago. Due back to see consultant in 2 weeks for second appointment (unhelpfully sent away to try for another 6 months back in June, obviously nothing has happened....) Need to get tooled up with info so I can go in and demand whatever medical science can throw at us, although as they can't find anything wrong with either of us, not sure what the best route is. Any advice appreciated!

Hope everyone is having a nice weekend

Hi st4rfish - this is definitely the place to be if you're looking for advice and support, the ladies on here are lovely

I'm only at the 12 month mark ATM so I can't be any help to you (we have no diagnosis yet and are still waiting for our first appointment), but didn't want to read and run. X

Hi star (which in lazy iPad typing I'm going to have to call you ). Glad you have de-lurked, as Sam says we are a pretty nice bunch . I'm sorry to hear about your MC :(. What tests if any have you had? Bloods or SA? HSG? Immunes? 4 years is a long time to be unexplained but it certainly can happen. If you give us a little more info and results we can arm you to the hilt with ideas and tactics.

nelly I have emailed them and explained how BB came to be and sent some pictures of her, they are going away soon for 3 months so not sure how easy communication will be in that time, we shall what happens :)

sam it helps to tell someone, I hope your mum can offer support

st4r welcome to the thread, sorry to hear about your MMC

Star welcome, I am patting a space beside me on the sofa. I agree four years is a long and crappy time to be unexplained. Wtf at having to try six more months after three years of trying. Seems very odd advice and against the usual recommendation to get tested after a year if under 35, 6 months of over. Are you in the system - tests then waiting for IVF referral?

Sam glad you were able to talk to your mum and she was nice. I bet you look very foxy in your party dress. I always feel better when I've glammed myself up a bit, there's nothing like new clothes and a chat with someone who loves you to help a sad heart.

Nelly your news is just wonderful and you haven't been wittering. It's a very nerve wracking time so please keep sharing all the details with us. We've been on this road with you a long time!

Buzz you could stall them if you aren't ready to skype with them yet? Email a bit more first? As nelly says, you are in control. Big hug.

Thanks Critter, she was lovely - I do feel a bit guilty for telling her as I know she'll worry now, but she must have been wondering anyway as we had to tell them at the beginning of the year that we were ttc. Hope you're doing okay? Xx