TCOYF Software Spotters!!!

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Pefect for us spotters and knicker watchers!!!!!

Good idea Natty.

Here's my sad little chart for this month!!!!

Hello everyone... after much faffing about I have finally moved my charting online :0)

Here hopefully is the link to my chart

cityangelchart

How is everyone doing?

Afternoon ladies, sorry that I cannot see an updated chart for me, I am trying to move the software to my home computer but it is not showing the work done on the version on my laptop - anyone successfully moved it?

Anyway, I'm cd23, 8dpo and tons of CM, if I was symptom spotting, I would also tell you I have very sore, inflated boobs, bad skin around my hairline, bleeding gums, vivid dreams and backache but hey, nothing new from last cycle when I was BFN! The last few days, my temps have been Sat 36.3, Sun 36.4, Mon 36.4 and Tues 36.5, so nothing unusual there either, will just have to wait and see!

BBW - I agree, you chart does not seem to show post OV high temps yet but maybe the lack of sleep, worry, visitors and maybe your drugs are taking their toll? I agree, get a good night's sleep tonight and see what happens tomorrow.

Welcome to our world Geek and Cityangel!

Cityangel - your temps are quite erratic aren't they? are you taking your temp as soon as you wake up and after 3 consecutive hours of sleep? I imagine the software will rule out the long lie on Sunday soon or else your coverline is going to be really high.

Geek - looking good

LittleMissB - liking the new name! hope it brings you lots of luck! Know what you mean about liking to be in control, TTC has been a sound lesson for me (which I have now learnt and deserve my reward ).

Babymad - funny to see you still temping, does it not stress you out? what do you mean by (with O) when you were talking about BDing? thanks for sharing your tips!

Stretchmarks - you're still temping too!

3catstoo - what are the "other events" you are recording? Nosy aren't I?!

Nop temping doesn't stress me as I get up then anyway, I think it will slip this weekend LOL, "O" is for orgasm

ahhh! only the one Babymad!?

MrsMc, not nosey at all. I hadn't realised it doesn't show the detail on the chart, how un observent of me.

My other events include:
Migraine (I get alot)
Spots
Swimming
walking
Added today, antibiotics for spots!

Finally went to see GP about my spots and he said it was acne!
I'm not so sure.
I agreed to take the antibiotics (safe when ttc, no penecilin (sp?)). He seemed to think that would make them go away and not come back. I think if they go away, they will be back around Ov and again for AF.
We'll see.
I'll try anything right now as they are making me feel so down - not like me at all.

I'm glad you asked Babymad what O meant as I thought I was missing something really obvious and didn't want to ask.
Does 'O' have an effect on conceiving then?
I have read that it is more likely to produce a boy if you O but nothing about it's general role in conceiving. Am interested to know the detail of that.

Sounds like you are having a few symptoms. Not long to wait now.

Why are you ladies with BFPs still temping?
I find it stresses me out. Can't wait until I can stop thinking about it.

Hello..........I'm not really here(!?)but Natty emailed me to tell me the FAB news!!!!

Babymad and Stretchmarks..........I am thrilled for you both.......well done.
X

Hi 3Catstoo - ah, now I understand. I get migraines too, not nice are they. My spots seem to be a bit better but I think that is just my hormones settling down after coming off the pill, I don't normally have spots. That said, I have a few around my hairline at the mo that are sore.

Hope the antibiotics help and make you feel better, poor you.

Apparently an O helps you body suck the swimmers up into the cervix thus giving them more of a chance, not sure if it's true though.

I started getting cramps this afternoon and with them that horrible feeling of dread that I am not pregnant. Fully expecting spotting tomorrow, that will be 9dpo so back to normal .

re temping whilst pregnant, I don't think I'll do it, it would stress me out. Chooster and I had a conversation about it over lunch one day and I said I would temp for the first wee while just to be sure that my temps didn't fall and therefore indicating a MC. Well, she did and got really worried when her temps dropped a bit but it was actually fine. I think Trace2 was the same so as soon as I get the chick, the thermometer is getting relegated back to the medicine chest!

Coggy - really sorry, thought I'd said? So, sorry

Great to here from you Coggy, thanks for your best wishes and support always thinking of you and always want to here from you! Babymadxx!

The TCOYF book say something about not even needing a PG test if your temp stays up for 17-18 days so that's what I want to see, and now it's become routine for me to take temp, also I'm fascinated to see my temp on the chart for some reason knowing I'm PG! Soz going on now!

Yes MrsMcJur I have an "O" every time ! LOL!
About the "helps you body suck the swimmers up into the cervix thus giving them more of a chance, not sure if it's true though." professor Robert Winston say that "O" helps the sperm get to the to the egg quicker!

hi everyone,

I'm still temping as i'm into that routine and it also reminds me each morning that I am pregnant. I know I would worry if the temp drops incase of MC but at the moment I don't have any symptoms and so temping is actually reassuring me !!!!!

3cats - I once watched a docu about conception where the role of the O was explained in some detail. They even had a camera positioned somehow to show that during O the cervix dipped into a little puddle of sperm and sucked it up into the uterus. For that reason when TTC DD (TMI alert - you may wish to stop reading now) I always had DH stay inside after ejac (to act as a kinda plug) while I made myself O. Can't say if that's what helped us conceive but I say try anything!

Thanks for your advice temp buddies.

I agree with you MrsMc my temps are erratic. I was holding off posting on this thread for ages in the hope they would settle. The first month temping after the pill they followed the classic expected pattern but never again after that. I am very disciplined I don't get up or move. The thermometer is there next to the bed plus chart.

At the weekends I do get up later but sometimes the odd erratic temps are weekdays. Last month for example I had regular potential OV shifts of 0.3 C x3 in the fertile period .
I was convinced I wasn't OVing because of the erratic readings but got 3 clear OPKs last month. They do seem to be classic annovulation charts.

With the O question I have one embarrassing question I have been holding off asking for a while..Does anyone else wonder whether O and female ejaculation in particular could get in the way of the sperm TMI... Answers on a postcard to embarrassed in East London please.

Is anyone up for sharing their charts with the newcomer (nutter)?

CityAngel - all our charts are on the other thread for you to have a look. It's here

Thanks BBWBabeLisa I moved it across :0)

Happy lady, so many charts to go spotting on!

Babymad & Stretchmarks - hope you are not cross with me about commenting on you still charting, it was just interesting that was all and Babymad, if Prof Winston says an O is needed then it is .

Liking the look of your charts Geek and Greedy (and yours too Natty if you're there ).

BBW - did you sleep better last night? Hope so

Hello 3catstoo

Sorry I couldn't update today, will tomorrow. Temp is 36.5 today, have intermittent cramps, very emotional, boobs huge and sore, bleeding gums when I brush, vivid dreams and tons of CM - nothing new for this stage in the cycle but the boobs are extra sore and I am ultra worried about AF turning up hence being emotional. Lots of tears . Sorry to winge

Thanks Mrs - yes still being naughty and lurking think we always say that my chart is looking good around this time and then it always starts to drop. Oh well.xxx

can i join too please?
my chart is on the other thread. i dont like the ovusoft software cos that said i ov'd 2 days later than the fertility friend told me. it was cos i had a high temp, then a low and then lots of highs! i want to believe ff cos it means our BDing was better timed! how does the software decide if to discount an erratic temp or not? it could have been my first high that was wrong or my low the next day that was wrong! does temp go up or down if you take it later than normal?
lots of qu. i know! sorry i am a novice!MrsMcSpink, you sound low. cheer up! dont get depressed before you even know if af is coming or not!
can i ask natty and coggy (is that right?) why you have decided to take a break from MN if i am not being too nosey?

greedy, you might want to go fiddling with the preferences in tcoyf - that can change when it thinks OV was! But it also pays a lot of attention to what you said about CM in the run up to OV - if you were reading the december thread last week you'll know I was asking about CM, so I only really got a good idea of what to put on the day I OV'ed, but then had to go back and assume that i had EWCM on the previous day or two in order to persuade tcoyf that i had actually OV'ed (despite really obvious temps). Hope that makes sense. You probably know much better than I did about CM my point is just that the software is biased about it.

Oh, and thanks for the encouragement about my chart MrsMcJnr!

Hiya MrsMc - No slept worse if anything. Had a bad reaction to the pills I took and spent the whole night itching from head to toe. Didn't get a wink of sleep. Been struggling to keep my eyes open all day. Soon as DD goes down I'm hitting the sack too.

No temp shift again, still more EW than a battery farm.

Will try and catch up with where everyone else is at tomorrow, sorry, just so tired.

Natty, I know every day I look back on all the previous cycles to remind myself that things mean nothing at this stage - let's just say the charts look "promising"?

Greedy - course you can temps apparently go up or down by .1 for every half hour but you need to work out if your body does that or not and make sure the software follows what your body does. Mine doesn't change that much if I sleep in but does if I get up early.

As Geek said, it may be looking for other fertility signs to back up the temp like CM, salivia-scope, OPKs or Fertility Monitors. Check the preferences. Sorry, don't know much about FF but think the chart is nice and clear. Not all the companies have clear charts.

Geek - I might have got this wrong Geek and if I have, I'm sorry but you don't need to make things up to convince the software, that's cheating and it won't help you! the preferences can help you gauge your own cycle, i.e. you may always have sticky CM and therefore that is not a sign of returning fertility, if you put that data in, the software will know that about you. If your CM is confusing, make the software predict OV on the basis on temps alone, or OPKs if they work for you and exclude the things you don't use or are confusing. Hope that helps.

BBW - poor you, what a nightmare! hope you feel much better soon.

MrsMcJnr - sorry, but I'm a software engineer, so I'm used to lying to computers to get them to tell me what I think the right answer is! LOL

Seriously though, the problem was that until CD14ish, I just wasn't checking my CM properly, so I guess what I should have done was put "not recorded" up to that day - I think I tried that, and it said I hadn't ovulated. To be honest, I didn't think about setting it to completely ignore CM, because now I know what I'm doing better I DO want it to use that from now on. Oh, but you can set preferences specific to a cycle can't you?! Hmm, might go and have a fiddle with it...

Hi Ladies,

Charts are looking good today. Can't see your latest temps MrsMc, how are things with you?

Hi Natty, how are you doing?

AF has finished now so now I'm counting down to Ov again! I'm hoping the software doesn't keep changing Ov this cycle. It is predicted for next Fri and DH goes away on Sunday afternoon. Hopefully I won't get too stressed that it gets delayed!

Very interesting about 'O' and conception. Hadn't really thought about it like that but I guess it makes sense. Thanks for the insigt BBW.

Fingers crossed for all of you still in the 2ww, there are a few of you this time. Good Luck.

That should have said insight

About this "O" (I've really set something off here LOL) check out the "video on demand" with professor Robert Winston" And the 3rd clip in the conception bit shows you a cervix being dipped in to a sperm pool by the aid of a "O"!

Video on demand link