For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

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I will be starting soy isoflavones tomorrow, cd 3.

This will be my 11th cycle TTC, with two chemical pregnancies/ early miscarriages @ about 5weeks so far this year already.

I've read up quite a lot on SI, and just at the point now where I'm thinking, what the hell, I'll give it a go!

Anybody else TTC with soy isoflavones?

Bollocks I think my period is here two days early. Hoping it does t turn into full flow till tomorrow but I generally don't get spotting so I suspect she is here.

Now sure what to do now as soy seemed really promising by adding another day into my follicular phase, however I've now potentially lost two days off my lutuel phase which is crap.

So sorry you're going through this loopy. Definitely go see you go either way, so at the very least they can keep a record of it.

So sorry loopy

Perhaps implantation bleed newera.

Sadly not as it's around the time I might expect to get AF if I'd OVed earlier. It seems to just be spotting for now which I generally never get but of course I've never taken soy before!

Girls I've been thinking - what about my HCG levels? If I retest in a few days, it'll still be present won't it? Possibly giving a false positive? I've tried to call the GP but they're not answering which is very bloody helpful not

My tests went negative the day after I started bleeding both times it happened to me @ about 5 weeks

Loopy I take ages to get rig of HCG, even when they are at low levels, so for me retesting would probably have proved nothing. However it sounds like a chemical maybe and if so you might test negative pretty quickly afterwards.

So AF arrived proper this evening. I'm not sure I can class this day 1 of full flow, but I actually managed a longer cycle last month on my own, so am going to give soy a miss for next cycle and see how I get on.

Have ordered some royal jelly and will continue to take EPO throughout ovulation and see if it helps with my EWCM. I normally get one day but this cycle I didn't get any. I have also ordered Preseed so fingers crossed!

Onwards and upwards, good luck everyone xx

Hi there,
Just been reading through this thread. A big wave to those I recognise from the buses. I hadn't really given much thought to taking soy as I thought my cycles were fairly regular. Before ttc they were pretty much 29 days like clock work though they had been irregular in the past. Since ttc 30 days is a good cycle, they are more like 32/33 which has me getting my hopes up for a few days even though I get pre AF symptoms. Anyway, think I ovulate around days 17-19 so no concern re my LP but would love to improve egg quality (am 33) and try and bring ov forward a few days.
I'm on CD 22, thought I was 3dpo but FF says 4dpo and who am I to disagree with FF. Going to order some Soy ready for next cycle to tempt fate. I find the 2ww more tolerable too if I have a plan of action for next cycle.
Good luck everyone, will lurk for now and then join in if AF arrives.

Just wanted to say a quick thanks to Soloman for helping me make the decision to give Agnus Castus a go. I only managed to take it for 4 days before ov this cycle and it could be coincidence but I got an extra 2 days LP this cycle which is unheard of! The pre AF spotting has started now which is always gutting but I'm going to start AC on cd1 when I get full flow and am feeling positive about next cycle. Let's hope the Xmas atmosphere will help us all get those BFP's! Xx

GoodEgg that's interesting as I'm planning on buying FertilAid for women that has Vitex in it I think. It has pre-natal but also a proprietary blend of herbs including chasteberry, l-arginine, maca etc. I was reading the reviews last night and they were extremely positive. My partner has been taking the mans version and another one alongside called CountBoost.

I was trying to do my sums yesterday and I think we are spending around £350 a month on acupuncture and supplements at the moment. How crazy is that!!!

Just popping in to say hi. I'm still lurking but have decided not to give soy another go this cycle, I'm just going to do a natural cycle with no supplements etc, no "trying" and no ovulation sticks. The whole ttc thing has driven me mad this past year so giving myself a month off.

Hope you are all well, I will keep you updated.

Hi girls. Nice to hear everyone's plans. Am on CD6, last day of soy. I'd love it if we could still hear from you disney and newera as I am now over invested in your TTC journey!

Haha thanks Boys, I do that too. I might give soy another go next cycle, but just want to do a natural, stress free cycle.

I will still post on this thread as I'm over-invested in everyone else's cycles lol. So much more interesting than my own!!

I'm on cd 3/4 today. I ordered Fertilecm alongside Fertileaid as it's supposed to help increase EWCM. We shall see!!

Forgot to say that DP's sperm results came back 'normal'. Although we don't have the exact numbers yet we are really pleased.

Newera do you take anything to improve womb lining? I'm sure that a problem for me. My periods are so light and almost painless.

Hello!
We've been away for a few days so not posted. I've had a quick read back and am sorry to hear AF has arrived for some of you.

I'm on cd 14 today. I took soy days 3-8 and am hoping that ovulation is imminent.
new I have been swigging cough medicine for a week now and my General discharge has increased a lot. It's turned to ewcm this evening, so fx I'll get a temp rise and positive opk in the next few days.

Sorry about afs to those who it's gotten so far .
Trying to not obsess and have managed quite well so far but today 7 dpo and did an opk yesterday and today just out of curiosity since didn't want to waste proper tests yet and It was darker today . Boobs are sore as hell and have been having lower back pain and can feel my right ovary again ever since ov really it's kind of worse now twinges in elsewhere in my belly too . Damn I hate this second week of 2ww. I've had 4 cp this year so not very hopeful but always praying for a miracle of course . It's also my first soy cycle and wondering how it's affecting me . Cycle dates seemed the same so far.

Hey girls, I'm still hanging about but in limbo really. I'm probably fooling myself but I'll do an HPT at the end of the week (so exactly a week after MC) to check it's negative then start thinking about shagging again I s'pose how very tiresome

Where's everyone else at with their cycles/dpo's?

Hi Loopy, thinking of you darling xx

I'm cd 4/5 spotting finished yesterday. My periods are only ever three days long with a day spotting at the end. The soy cycle was definitely weirder as I spotted before AF which I don't remember doing before, hence not really knowing what day to class as CD1.

Boys the FertileCM supplement is supposed to be about uterine lining and EWCM. This is the gumpf:

Fertile cervical mucus during ovulation is central to getting pregnant, helping to nourish and protect sperm and facilitate sperm transport. A woman's cervical mucus changes throughout her cycle (volume and consistency in the first half of the cycle will differ from cervical mucus after ovulation takes place). In order for conception to occur, sperm must swim through the cervix and uterus and ultimately to the fallopian tube where fertilization occurs. The ingredients in FertileCM promote the production of healthy, fertile-quality cervical secretions by hydrating and thinning the cervical mucus and ensuring a proper pH balance for a vaginal environment conducive to conception.

Implantation (the attachment of the embryo to the uterine lining or endometrium) takes place about 7-10 days after ovulation and signals the first moment of pregnancy. Successful implantation requires a healthy endometrial lining. By increasing vascular blood flow to the uterus, FertileCM has been shown increase endometrial secretions and help strengthen the uterine lining for implantation of a fertilized egg.

It's been dispatched so I shall report back once I've been taking it a whole.

That sounds interesting new. Where do you get it from? I have tried cough medicine this cycle. It seems to have worked as I have had more watery discharge and some ewcm. But it tastes vile, so I would prefer a tablet.

Cd 15 for me today and I have a strong positive opk. Looks like soy has bought my on forward again this cycle . I just need the sperm to meet the egg now!

Does anyone usually get chin spots around ovulation? I know some people say they can indicate what side you are ovulating from. I always get one around ov, but if this month's chin is anything to go by I have two whopping eggs o the left and three little ones on the right!

Oooh Frolic nice one, excellent stuff . I ordered the supplements from HealthMonthly. They seem to have a lot of codes and free delivery over £40. Also amazon stocks them but they were more expensive and eBay stocks them. They have fantastic reviews but who knows, the proof is in the getting duffed

Good luck darling xx

I've not had a temp rise, despite positive ovulation signs.
Looks like soy hasn't managed to bring ov forward for me this month. I'm tired and fed up of dtd!

Ah no . What's your cm like? Any chance you have messed with your temps because of night waking or taking then at different times?