W are jolly well going to get pregnant this month and we're brooking no argument - all rat smackers past, present and future welcome!

[farfallarocks]

Here, we go, nice new thread.
Might be helpful to have some stats so we know where we all are?

I will start, farfallarocks - TTC#2, cycle 11. 1st brooking baby DD, 21 months. Investigations reveal high FSH and potentially starting IVF.

Totally agree Keep, the pressure isn't needed at all. My parents were great and just left us to it, but the inlaws were horrendous through the whole thing. Out of pure nosiness. Next time I think we will avoid telling them anything at all see the shit hit the fan

we told our immediate family at 7 weeks after a scan, but noone else till 12 and I didn't believe it till 20+, like the lovely cups

but molotov I found it hard when friends would ask in an intimate way of our plans for a family. having been TTC for ages it felt wrong/hard to lie, so I think many guessed/knew. I guess it's fine for most, as most people do conceive within 6 months. but if you don't...

Morning Brookers! I'm checking in from the land of no sleep. I normally wake up at 3am and 5am every morning, can't seem to get back to sleep this time.

Beedle yay to starting stimms soon I love that MrB was oblivious to it all! So typical. I always had to remind MrCups all the way through of what stage we were at.

Imps how have you got on with your first few days of stimms? Did you forget anything? I had alarms set for everything and was still late with injections a few times. Luckily it's only the trigger that's got to be exactly on time. When's your first scan? Mine was always on day 6 of stimms. I struggled a bit with protein as allergic to nuts and not a big meat eater. Danio yogurts have 12g protein so I had one of them every day as well as eggs and chicken. I also had milkshakes/hot chocolate every day. Lots of water and fruit and veg.

Maybe I get really fed up with facebook at times but find it a necessary evil as all of our family live so far away. Have you been looking at houses again? Have you got any amazing baby space saving tips? We live in a small 2 bed terrace and can't really afford to move if I want to go back to work part time. My new stress is I've got no space for a tumble dryer and have no idea how I'm going to dry all our clothes without a spare room!

Keep any news on the job front? Are you still looking or are you hoping to get something permanent at your current job?

Sparks=Diffed do you get lots of annoying questions about number 2 then?

Molotov I don't really get why people talk about starting ttc either. I guess it's a mixture of naievity and excitement. I have been fairly open about having ivf as I could no longer stand the questions about when we were going to have a baby. I kept details of our cycles quiet as I didn't want the pressure of people's expectations but I am very proud of baby's conception and have no intention of keeping it secret. I must admit I'm not quite shouting it from the rooftops yet but more from superstition that I'm still scared of something going wrong.

I've been getting a lot of friends/colleagues saying they are jealous of me in a jokey kind of way. I know they don't really mean anything by it but it's kind of annoying me. Has anyone else had this when pregnant? I guess I'm just super sensitive still about having ttc for so long.

I've got an anterior placenta but have been feeling kicks for a few weeks. They can be quite subtle at times but have had a few big ones the past few days and have even seem my belly move twice. DH can't feel anything yet.

Anyone got any exciting valentines plans? We never really do anything on Valentine's as DH's birthday is on the 15th. I've booked us into a spa hotel for the night and have treated DH to a massage. He's been super stressed at work so thought it would be nice. I was worried it was a bit of a girly thing to do but he's really looking forward to it. I've also bought him the games of thrones board game to even it out a bit!

hi cups he's making you practise broken. rights I had an anterior placenta too but felt things from 20 weeks. she was, and still is, v active though! I think people are trying to be nice. pregnancy is an amazing time, I suspect especially the first, and you have so much joy and excitement to come; they probably are jealous in a way. but I agree it's an annoying thing to say.

sounds like a lovely Valentine's day. we are doing the 'dine in' thingy and will be in bed by 10

sparks yes, cold = diffed! BTW I would be happy to explain the ivf process to most people

cups no I don't want a perm job at current place ; too far away. have a couple of interviews in the pipeline but feeling rather demoralised about it

Dehumidifier!! Have you got one Cups?? Pop one in the room you're drying your clothes in and - bam! - drying time is reduced enormously.

Sorry for super quick post - just dashing off to the butchers.

Cups, I have two words. Heated airer!!!!! Seriously the best thing ever. My mum got me one when I was pregnant and I didn't think it would be much cop. But my goodness, it's amazing. Get thee to Lakeland, stat!!! And ikea is your friend too.

Sparks, a bug? Definitely diffed. True fact.

Keep, job hunting sounds tough. Trying to find a job is so difficult at the best of times, let alone with the gorgeous Kip to think about too.

Valentines day. Well, last year we went to the hospital opening evening. Romantic, no?! This year I shall mostly be running around after A. Who is still asleep in my arms after the night from hell

Lol - crossed posts Maybe - love that we were both thinking about useful electrical household items at the same time!

well I have just spent ages clearing up multiple baby vomits. rock and roll...

Hello lovelies. How were your weekends? Keep any more vom to report?

All fine here - stimming is going okay although am really struggling to get to grips with the Gonal-F pen - not sure why but I seem to be a bit cack-handed with it and make myself bleed. Oh well am sure it's just a matter of getting the hang of it.

Also feeling v tired now - evenings are a bit of a wipeout.

And on that note I think I'll go to bed. Night all.

I started stimming on Thursday and have my first scan this Wednesday - not sure how much longer I'll need to stim for before I trigger.

I'm desperately hoping that EC won't be on 24 or 25 Feb - I'm presenting 2 seminars at work on those days and while I can get someone to cover for me if I have to, it will be pretty bloody awkward.

Did my jabs in the loos at ikea on Saturday classy - if this round works I will tell Implette that she was made in Ikea's toilets!

I think Ikea would be a lovely name Imps :o

Now that would be a lovely conception story...

Hope the dates a favourable for you Imps do they decide when to do it based on scans? Is it likely to be around that time?

I'm on day 'God knows I can never work it out' but af due on Friday. am holding out to poas until then after early testing with DS2 and the line was so faint I couldn't see it. But on wiping this morning got some pink so I think the witch is circling or do we think it could be implantation bleeding? hmmm doubtful

hinky implantation for sure

imps ooheee first scan on wed! am brooking for some juicy follies

yes, lots more d&v for little kip here it's non stop sickness since she started nursery!

sparks sorry you're sick. take to your bed to let that little embie take advantage of your lowered immune system to burrow in

On the subject of telling or not telling about IVF, we haven't been exactly open about it. My parents know, a couple of friends (+ you lot :o ) and MrB's boss. I haven't told my boss, partly because I can work from home, or leave the office really easily, and partly because I don't want read expectation/pity on his face when it gets to testing time. ( i know he probably wouldn't realise when testing time was and he probably wouldn't be thinking about it anyway, but I would think he was IYKWIM). I told him I was pregnant (and then not) last time so I will tell him pretty quickly if it does work. But I have my annual performance review in the next few weeks so I may well tell him everything then, or maybe not!

beedle do you start swimming on wed? is it v snowy with you? I meant to tell you my sis has moved to Norway and my 4yo niece is now fluent and 18mo niece (you may remember my despair at her conception ) learning both languages together! it's awesome

yes keep I'll be swimming with drugs on wed :o Its not snowy at the moment but we have had some recently, it was rather lovely. Are you planning any visits to your sis to play in the snow? Hope kip feels better soon.

cups hope you and MrCups enjoyed your night away, I'm now tempted to do theame for MrB's birthday.

imps I think 10 days is about teh minimum stimming time, so you might be lucky and take a little longer, there's probably no way of knowing until you have a scan. But I'd start lining up a replacement for the seminars if I were you!

imps great public stabbing! See I knew you would be all nonchalant about it!! I also think you may have a seminar/egg collection clash, are you taking some time off?

We have been very open about both the MCs and IVF with close friends. I don't mind people knowing and people have been so supportive, a friend sent flowers to my office when we had our BFN and it was lovely to think people were thinking of us. It also brings out so many people having problems, lots of my friends are having investigations or doing IVF and it is nice to be able to talk about it with them instead of boring on to DH!

beedles best of luck with your round.

I keep on putting off our round, I am thinking May now as I want to take baby far to Italy to see my grandma (she is 95!) but I also know time is not on my side. Hmmmm lots of decisions to make.