W are jolly well going to get pregnant this month and we're brooking no argument - all rat smackers past, present and future welcome!

[farfallarocks]

Here, we go, nice new thread.
Might be helpful to have some stats so we know where we all are?

I will start, farfallarocks - TTC#2, cycle 11. 1st brooking baby DD, 21 months. Investigations reveal high FSH and potentially starting IVF.

Hi everyone you dropped off my list

beedle lovely to see you here! Iâ??ve missed you and think about you often (sorry if that sounds weird) Iâ??m brooking like absolute mad for your cycle. Third time lucky, and youâ??ll be joining our cups soon. Are they changing anything about your cycle? I canâ??t remember if you got any frosties?

cups are you feeling lots of kicks now? How exciting!

maybe I saw your price on FET â?? are you sure itâ??s that much? Our clinic is £850 for a medicated cycle and £600 for a natural cycle. How are you surviving on that many wake ups?! You are a machine /zombie

pasta oh no I hope itâ??s not really breech! There canâ??t be much space for turning by now, but I think it does sometimes happen

Hi hinks and welcome. I have a most beautiful 15 month IVF brooking little girl. I have 3 frosties in Thailand who will be moving home shortly, and then hoping to get one on board as soon as I get a permanent job --looks like itâ??s never going to happenâ??

trix are you working again yet? Howâ??s little Z?

Sparks, who knows. You may well have ov'd. I've always found mucous not all that reliable.

Keep, how is the job hunt going? Are you enjoying where you are now? It really is that muchc for a FET here. Includes the 12 weeks of progesterone and reassurance scan also, as well as all consults. So I suppose at least there's no hidden costs. To be honest, it's just the house move holding us back. And I'm also not planning to stop feeding anytime soon either!

hiya keep yep I work Mondays, Thursday s and sometimes sat for a couple of hours. it's ok I'd rather be home though! N is doing really well and I'm enjoying him wanting to play and cuddling hes a little clingy. He can 'say' book and points at what he wants so makes things a little easier. just need his sleeping to go back to normal.
how is S?

why what's he doing trix? s is good, liking nursery, a fair few words and lots of feeding her soft toys, making them dance etc

I'm in a temp job maybe. I'm still feeding once a day, have had AF since 10m pp though. I've been told if I do a natural fet I don't need to stop but do if medicated as the drugs would go through to her

Guys, what does 'diffed' mean, please?

(And also any other brooking language I need to know!)

Diffed is pregnant. PUPO is pregnant until proven otherwise which we use when someone has had an IVF transfer.

he's changed a fair bit since he turned one, as they do. like I said he's more cuddly and likes to play together, he would never have sat with me to look at a book now he brings one to me. He usually sleeps really well for like 11hrs. I maybe go in once or twice because he's lost his dummy and settle s straight back. now I might go in 5/6 times and eventually he can't seem to settle and gets very upset. he's asleep in seconds if I pick him up but crys if I put him back in the cot, 9 times out of 10 I give up and bring him to our bed because he's in a state and I'm starting to stress. originally it seemed to be teething, scream ing with red hot cheeks and he had a slight tummy bug, that all seems fine now yet he's still unsettled at night.
mo diffed is pregnant.

Thank-you!

Ovulation, schmovulation Sparks. You're diffed, that's what.

sparks diffed!!

trix I know a lot of babies whose sleep has got worse after they turned 1. also I think after illness they can get used to waking and it can become a habit. I'm . of those whose babies settle in with them. s gets happy but doesn't sleep if in with us

pasta when's your scan

and pupo is pg UNLESs proved otherwise, not until. that's not the brooking way

Scan is 4pm on Monday.

DD only started sleeping through the night when I became pregnant, she had just turned 2.

shouldn't complain really I know that even his bad nights aren't as bad as some, don't know how maybe functions I really struggled at work yesterday. my parents love to remind me that I was much worse.
I do love cuddly naps and feel abit sad on days it doesn't happen because of work or we are out etc but it can't go on forever. I do try to avoid him coming into our bed as nice as it can be.

I'm on CD9 now; getting closer to when I'm likely to be fertile. I think I must typically OV somewhere between day 12-15 ... I just feel doubtful; asnif going from 2-3 dcs is a real leap of faith.

I truly understand that this is a fortunate 'problem'. We have the 2 dcs we always dreamed of. It's the not being sure either way that I'm struggling with.

Something that's been on my mind lately (it's just something I need to share): I never told anyone (aside from my DM) when we were ttc - especially second time as dd1 took almost a year and with dd2 it was month after month after month of trying and ... nothing. When women I know announce they're trying, it just smacks of arrogance to me. I mean, most I know already have one dc; maybe that baby happened easily, so why wouldn't they tell?

But does anyone else ever feel like that? Do you know what I mean?

I only told work and my Guide leader that I was pregnant before 12 weeks, let alone that we were TTC. They only knew because I was having time off sick from work and Guides needed to know because of the activities we were planning on doing. Only told the main leader, not the other assistants.

I could just never face people IRL knowing something so private and then almost having to update them about why there's still no pg if it took longer than a few months.

It was bad enough when dd1 was about 2yo and people woild innocently ask 'when will you have another?' What they didn't know was that we'd already been trying again for over a year!

There is some relief in people ask less now. And even if they do, I say I'm not sure; am happy with two but wouldn't mind another.

But I would never say 'We're trying for a baby' because I've been there when you can see neither the end of the tunnel, nor the light.

No one on earth knows we're TTC (other than Bourn Hall, obvs) - in fact everyone thinks we are avoiding having children probably because that's what I tell people . I would hate anyone to know. When I got diffed I still told not a soul and when I get diffed again I will tell not a soul until the 12 wk scan.

I also cringe a bit when people announce that they're TTC. I don't think it's news. Telling a friend because you want support is one thing, announcing it for the sake of people knowing is quite another.

and us imps .
I can't understand it, most people didn't even know I was pregnant until 20wks!

Ah, thanks for replying as it's good to read that I'm not alone in having those thoughts!!

Meanwhile, there are a bumper cropbof mums of dd1's classmates either with new babies or pg. Dd has just said that she would like me to have another baby - but a girl. Definitely not a boy. She does not want a brother (I wouldn't mind either).

Dd2 would like me to have a baby panda

....

Seriously, we should try, right? I'm probably going to keep wondering unless we try, aren't I?

DD is convinced I'm having a boy, this is mostly because she doesn't really like girls and always wants to be with the boys...

I found it really strange telling people I was pregnant. I felt like I was telling them I had had sex. Which was exactly what I was telling them. Also, I wondered who it really mattered to except us.

I do however tell people often how long it took to conceive the DC. I think it's important to make people aware that it can be hard and take time. Maybe someone there is struggling and feels better knowing they're not alone, even if they don't want to talk about it.

Assuming we do have an Implette, I'm not sure how I'll approach telling people about IVF. I want people to be aware that fertility issues exist, but at the same time both me and Mr I are acutely private people and it would just feel odd going into our medical details with people - even family and very close friends. Mr I in particular would feel v v uncomfortable knowing people were thinking about and discussing his sperm.

Strangely, I would feel more comfortable telling people less close to us about IVF - they're unlikely to press for personal medical details. It's our close friends and family who would refuse to be fobbed off with vague comments about infertility.

That having been said, I am equally uncomfortable with the idea of people assuming we conceived au naturel. I think that does a disservice to people who have fertility issues and the bloody brilliant medical people who make miracles happen.

I think we will just have to suck up the discomfort and talk openly about Mr I's jizz!

How did you fellow IVF'ers handle it?

I remember having a conversation with a school mum when dd2 was about 5mo. She said that we had 'done very well' to have a spring baby and that her sister had planned all of her children to be born in summer (BBQs and outdoor parties) which to her dismay is the reason why she'd planned her babies to be winter babies as she didn't want to compete with her sister.

Oh, the luxury of planning the month for your baby to arrive!

I recall saying something like she wasn't "planned" at all to be a spring baby; we'd been ttc for a bit and she just happened then. I couldn't find itnin me to explain further than that.

I wish I had it me, but I just didn't want that attention.

I really do count every one of the lucky stars I might have to have not just one, but two beautiful, amazing little human beings in my life. I wished so hard for them and I try every day to be the best mum they could ever have.

I conceived dd2 on my 6th cycle of Clomid. I guess I hadn't got pg then, it would have meant going back to the fertility clinic for perhaps another 6 cycles ... I don't know. I felt quite broken by the whole process and as much as wanted/want to help people in a similar situation, I had to do so privately. Hence writing a 'thank-you' card which included a newborn photo of dd2 to our fertility clinic (seeing other's letters and baby photos gave me hope).

And hence why I MN.

IVF is another story which I cannot comment upon, but to those of you going to through it - you have my every best wish in the world x

We were very open and honest about IVF after we fell pregnant and had A. Very close family knew about it the time too. I'm also a pretty private person, but felt it was really important to tell people. It's such a lonely, isolating experience, and I wish it could be normalised. It's seen as something that only affects 'older' women. The fact that it could be a male thing is never thoughts about. Which is why we have done quite a bit of press stuff. I always want A to know how she came about as well.

I guess we will feel v different about privacy and being open about stuff etc once I have a baby here/on the way - the pressure will be off by then. While we're still getting there it's nice not to have the extra burden of people wanting to know what stage we're at/how it's going/whether it's worked etc.

I'm the same, very open about the ivf now, wasn't really at the time. some family knew we were going to, but not when, as that felt like too much pressure. dh is always telling people about our frosties; again I don't want people to know at the time, but in principle it's fine

imps remind me how long you've been DR?

Molotov just see how it goes I guess. did/do you have ov issues hence the drugs for dd2?

imps 'not a person in the world' knows. er, HELLO