The Elderberry Pavlovas: Hanging up our fertility crystals, relaying the Yellow Brick Road and chasing that chopper. We want our BFPs and we want them now! (Thread 22)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

Pixie I'm so, so sorry to hear about your sister's troubles. What an utter heel he is! He had the affair last year and has only just told her about the baby? He was hoping this would all just go away. Idiot.

nolly I love the idea of you speaking in Cazalet idiom. I've heard those books on Radio 4, well half heard them if you know what I mean. I might add them to my ever expanding list of books to read, given that they come with a recommendation from you.

Ref smidge, I vote for having something about drumming in the next thread title. Stimming will be drumming for us forever more.

I hope all you lovely Berries are well and happy.

I'm off for a meditation weekend, leaving any minute now, so I won't be online this weekend. Be good.

Aw pixie what a hell of a week you've had my love with so many people to worry about. Your poor sister, she must heartbroken to have been betrayed like that even if she is better off without him. Poor old Mr P as well, horrible experience.

Hello boodle and serenity good to see you. Plonk yourselves down on the the chaise longue of limbo or pouffe of possibility! I am mostly under the duvet of denial at the moment, not really thinking about much other than work, relocating and making the most of the next three months before the new job and commuting starts.

smidge how are you doing with the lap recovery?

Nice mega post nolly I have also recently read the Cazelet Chronicles - loved them! Anything else you'd recommend in the same vein? Have you come across Persephone books - mainly forgotten women writers? Some real gems amongst their collection. That's a tough one with the parents in law but hopefully they'll be discreet. I have only told my mum and not my dad or the inlaws. None of them mention babies though but as I am the 'career' one I think perhaps they assume we won't have any

beaky are you going to give catching rainbows a go? Are you doing acu too? I'm spending wasting more money on therapy sessions to deal with the emotional aspects and anxiety/stress related to ttc. On top of acu and my vitamin junkie habit I'm spending an effing fortune.

Enjoy your meditation weekend wild I hope you feel suitably zen afterwards!

I am having a night in on my own, crappy tv, bath, early night. Shattered!

Hope everyone else is well!

Oh and nolly you never know....fingers crossed for some poas excitement tomorrow

oh good, glad you also know the cazalets tiger. I really recommend them wild. She was unjustly ignored for about 40 years as an author IMHO. Married to Kingsley Amis, basically brought up Martin Amis, affairs with Koestler, Laurie Lee, Cecil Day-Lewis etc etc. Because she wrote about women and women's lives she was not regarded by the literati as 'serious' and got reviewed by Tatler and Cosmo. HUH. anyway, I think they are great, Very very funny about children.

tiger am going to hold out til Saturday week. I'm not a great poas-er anyway and I'm sure it'll be negative which will just annoy me. Inlaws better be bloody discreet. Got an email from the earlier which said 'MiL will have said how we will suppert you in any way we can (well, no she hasn't actually)" - almost like the kind of email you'd send to an employee you were disappointed with, planning to fire, but needing to cover your back by toeing the line. Yes, feeling full of positivity towards humanity today. Hope you enjoy your night in alone - I'm watching homeland and drinking wine. so there! ;)

Saturday week, bloody hell nolly I would cave before then but fair play to you. I haven't poas much recently but I found shed loads of tests when I tidied out my bedroom drawers, from more hopeful times.

I am very much enjoying my night in, the hound is asleep at my feet and I'm watching an old bond film and browsing mn. Got a bit hooked on AIBU recently!!

aye well, easy to say eh? we'll see. anyway, doubtless AF will show up before then. quite jealous of hound. am all alone with the dishwasher. but in a good way.

AIBU made it into private eye this week - something about an extreme christian group in primary schools or something?

Jellie how are you doing?

Pixie gosh, what an absolute arsehole. Like a second life no one knew about. And how awful for Mr P too, hope all of you are ok and he gets sorted quickly. Go for it with the me stuff, it's what we are here for But, fantastic news about your bloods and that you can get going! All fx for you!

Nolly great news on the house! Fx for an offer on yours ASAP. Watched that clip, what a delightful boss you have I am going to do the catching rainbows but I've not had a chance to do the questionnaire yet, it's looong! I was going to get one early in the year when everyone was talking about it but just didn't get to it. Ghastly of me eh loving the upgrade on our usual chat! What a nightmare with the pils. I think I'd feel the same although Id take it if it came to it as we are poor to be honest, now I just want to crack on with IVF, I really don't want to wait anymore. I remember before we started trying, I always wanted an autumn baby and stupidly though this wouldn't be a problem!

Wild enjoy the weekend! You can spread your zen amongst us on your return!

Tiger yep to catching rainbows, and I was doing acu but stopped due to dh's job as we are skint. Do you not get offered counselling from your FC? Agree the ttc lark is just a money pit. I was also having a night in (dh works every Friday) with the puppy, she's been sleeping most of it!

Nolly "alone with the dishwasher, but in a good way"?? Anyway, POAS lady, we need a bfp on here desperately! I didn't see the aibu in private eye, but the extreme Christian group is probably my mental sil

Nolly it was all about Operation Chrietmas Child and how they threatened posters with legal action.

Pixie what a cock!

Will catch up on everyone's life soon.

I on the other hand have been fired from work (long story, unfair dismissal, spent all the money on ivf so can't afford to fight it) and DH has accepted a transfer to the middle of nowhere for financial reasons as we're poor now. Yay. How do people stay at home all day? I have no children, housework doesn't take long. I'm binge watching Star Trek it's that bad

Love how chatty it is on here! Been out at a friend's for cocktails. Didn't really feel like going earlier but was glad I went. My friend has a little boy but had a miscarriage before that. I arrived before anyone else and was chatting. I was saying things had been a bit crap recently and she asked why so I told her, although I wasn't sure whether to. She was of the opinion that our bodies are amazing things and will do it but we just need to give it time. She said about relaxing then we both joked about all the platitudes and cliches you are given when long term ttc. She had been trying 2 and a half years so said to me it's not that long for me yet. Said that in her mother and baby group lots of them are over 40 and one is onto her second at 45, quite a few Ivf pregnancies ( I didn't mention the Ivf, I thought the mmc was enough of a revelation) so I have another 10 years in me.(!!) It was interesting hearing about her mmc, also picked up at the 12 week scan. Oh and she said how she'd found online forums a great help and mumsnet!! Turned out she'd been on mmc threads and found others going through same. I said how it's lovely on here and that we cost about other non ttc things and how you really will each other on and are pleased with other's news.

Anyhow once other guests arrived we ended up playing the cornflake box game ( the one where you have to try and pick it up from the floor with your teeth, without your hands or knees touching the floor & as the game progresses the box gets smaller as you cut off a strip each time ). I won!! Weekly yoga paying off!!

pixie what a total twonk. Sounds mildly better than marrying him and then finding out like nollys friend. It does make you think re 7 mth ttc pregnant friend that they haven't seen anything yet but I do remember back to those times thinking that 7 months was a long time. I think around 6 mths I got very frustrated that it wasn't happening and something was wrong. We're all led to believe that you get pregnant at the drop of a hat. Our schooling, in particular, led us to believe if we even sniffed a willy ( ha ha!) we'd get pg.

And what's this about you being on your own with the dishwasher in a good way?? ...... Perhaps telling the in laws will help have things out in open and avoid hurtful, insensitive comments. Know what you mean about owning the baby but perhaps best not to think of it that way. Maybe just think of it as another option that's open to you that wasn't before.

Good point re when people ask about kids to answer brightly 'we hope so'. I too was one of those insensitive people who would ask others. I like that response because it is truthful & positive.

serenity oh no re your job. Hope something comes up for you soon.

Right I am pooped and have rambled for long enough!!!

Pixie - what a nightmare for your sister. Also hope that MrP recovers soon.

A weekend of meditation sounds like it could come in very handy Wild. Hopefully you'll have some top tips for us.

Hey Boodle, great to see you again .

Glad you have returned too Seren. Sorry about the job. Where are you up to with treatment?

Fingers crossed with the house Nolly. Given all the expense you must be about to have, I'd think of you PIL's offer as a safety blanket. Hope you get through to the FC soon.

Glad you had a nice evening out Bushy - that game is a new one on me.

So after all the disappointment in Berry HQ recently, I think we need to give our ovaries and uteruses a bloody good talking to! Given a few of us are just starting/on verge of starting treatment again, shall we get a new list going?

Gillster, 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.

Need to get up now as need to be at a wedding in Coventry for 11am! It's going to be a long (but hopefully) happy day.

Hey Berries. Sorry for the silence. Been another crazy week in work. Only 1 more before half term . Glad to see you back Boodle and Serenity and pleased that it's been a bit busier in here. Serenity I'm so sorry about your job. Hope you're doing ok
On an early train to Bristol. DH and I are treating ourselves to a day out as we think we deserve it!! Planning on brunch and a wander around Clifton, a visit to the zoo (DH's request) and a few cocktails later. Hope everyone is ok. It has indeed been a rubbish few weeks for the Berries. Onwards and upwards ladies. Had this as my phone screensaver for the past few weeks to keep me inspired!
Good idea on the new list Gil
Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass, 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 failed cycle of ICSI. 1 frostie and 1 more private cycle already paid for. Appointment at end of month to discuss plan of action.

tiger you're right - my stitches are now becoming annoying (itchy stitchies!) but due out on Monday, yay!

Nolly I understand your reticence regarding the offer from your PIL, however the money would be a lovely help I'm sure. So I have a plan! Maybe you could approach it differently.... Eg maybe you could gratefully accept some money from them by asking if they could help out with a couple of other (big!) household bills, as you and MrN are spending yours on the IVF... Then your PIL have just gained ownership of a year's car insurance instead of your baby

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass, 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 failed cycle of ICSI. 1 frostie and 1 more private cycle already paid for. Appointment at end of month to discuss plan of action.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014

Happy oh I do love a zoo. Especially if there are meerkats.
Bushy sounds......interesting I hope the box was empty.
Tiger I feel very dumb now. The last book I readvwas a trashy novel.
More to come

I'll add to the list.

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 failed cycle of ICSI. 1 frostie and 1 more private cycle already paid for. Appointment at end of month to discuss plan of action
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.

Just for you Serenity

Errrrr trying to update on the puter so I could add to the list. Blimmin Took ages to log in, now it's turned itself off and is doing updates....

Hey everyone Loving the chat.

Pixie - OMG! Your poor sister. Is it all off? I'm guessing it is. However better that she has found out before than after. I do hope that they can get some money back from some of the things that they have booked. Poor Mr Pixie too. That made me judder about knocking his teeth out...brrrrrr hope he's not to sore.

Nolly - good luck on the house. Fingers Xd for a good offer for you soon. I hope that PILS will be sensitive about it. I would just say to them (or get Mr Nolly too) thanks for the offer but maybe not just yet. My PILS don't know, but they did give us some money towards our mortgage which we have diverted. As My OH said we would only have to borrow off the mortgage so we may as well just put this straight towards it. We're not going to tell them anything about it I think. The certainly don't ask. I find them a bit cold (odd).

Definitely going to check out those book reccomendations. Love a spiffing good read

Wild - Ooooooh a meditation weekend! What does that entail??? I treated myself to a deeply disappointing massage this week. The lady talked all the way through. thank god it was only 20 minutes. Wont be going to her again!

Hi Tiger - hope your tv Crapathon and quiet night in was lovely.

I AM AN EXTREME AIBU FAN! Love it, in fact I'm disappointed by some that they aren't outrageous enough. It was AIBU (penis beaker) that got me on to mumsnet! LOL

HEY Beaky - I'm good thanks, How're you doing? Hows the pup now? Any better???

Serenity - Sorry about the Job. They sound like twonks. You'll find something soon I'm sure. Star Trek though.... please take up a hobby!

Bushy! Your night out sounds lovely. Cocktails, a sympathetic ear and the cereal box game. I've not tried that but I'd like to think Id be okay at it (esp after a few drinks!) I'm quite bendy but my fatness my topple me over!

Happy - Sounds like a FAB day out , hubby and I love a Zoo. Last time we went though, it was a bit sad as we were the only ones there with no kids. Felt like proper weirdo's. It was in summer hols though so a bit of a mistake I think.

Smidge - YIK to itchy stitches. Can you put something like BIO oil on them yet? It may help.

Hi Serenity - don't worry the last books I have been reading have been trashy. I like to see what I can get for free on Kindle downloads. The last few I've had are by Trish Marie Dawson. I think they're aimed at teenagers LOL

Hi to all the other lovely berries XXX

I've been having a lovely day. I listened to a relaxation track this morning (opening up to possibilities) then had a relaxing bath, bacon sandwich! Went to the gym. Back home for lunch, and have been alternating between vegging out on the sofa and doing a job or two in between catching up on come dine with me's. I'm so glad for getting back to the gym. Perhaps it will encourage me to eat better. Still struggling even though I was supposed to turn a new leaf this week. I'll be turning another this week.

Right List - I hope this works

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass, 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 failed cycle of ICSI. 1 frostie and 1 more private cycle already paid for. Appointment at end of month to discuss plan of action.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January

OH HA look I'm Jelliebabe1 on the puter and Jelliebabe2 on the Tablet

Hadn't even noticed jelliebabe! Your day sounds v nice! I too have had bacon sarnie. Woke up at silly o'clock and vegetated in bed, then got up & had a big sesh on mumsnet and crap tv, waiting for dh to wake up and make said bacon sarnie!!

Hope you had a good day at the wedding gil. I love a good wedding I does!

happy what a lush day out. I love Bristol.

I'd like to think if us berries got together we'd have a few cocktails or glasses of prosecco and we'd def have a go at the cornflake game!

smidge my stitches were gross. I looked like a joint of pork with the string in, really icky!! When healed use the bio oil. My scars are non existent really. The belly one shows a little but the other two gave faded right down. Been a year since my lap.

Well, I've had a bit of a strange day. At half term I was really looking forward to a spa day with a good friend who us notoriously hard to pin down.mit gad all been sorted so good to go. She phoned today starting to say she couldn't go. Here we go, I thought, she's larrying out on me. Anyway, turns out she's pg with her second (only about 9 weeks) & is feeling really sick, problems with blood pressure etc. She had basically been avoiding me as she knew the news would hurt. She'd got herself in a bit of a twist worrying about how to tell me as she said, in her words, it's another bugger who is pg!! She has had bleeding so had an early scan & said how it had hit her that we were sat there not so long ago in the same position but got bad news. They've had problems ttc and mmcs so they know how it is. She actually said they'd stopped trying and that's when it happened... I did want to ask what that entails but I expect we can all guess! Anyway she was really sweet and was like are you still going to be my friend-daft nana!

I did however get off the phone and although I'm happy for them, it's still that kick in the stomach and that feeling that we are being left behind. She'd told me at Xmas that they wNted to try for a second and I remember pessimistically thinking she'll be go with second before I'll have even got pg with 1. Seems I am right. I actually had a cry. Just seems everything is really hard. I feel unmotivated, un centred & disinterested at work and just not with any of it. I'm not sleeping and it feels like the bad parts are taking over the good. I'm not normally negative and really don't want to be. Anyhow, had a cuddle with dh and need to focus on the good. Tea is ready so time to man up!!

Serenity sorry to hear about work. If you need something great to watch try Orange is the New Black on netflixs, it's ace

Gill hope you enjoyed the wedding! I'll add myself to the list tomorrow when on laptop.

Happy hope you had a lovely day and love the meerkats pic! Also love your screensaver. Will you decide on whether to have an FET or do another round in your next app?

Jellie founds like a lovtjy day, I'm always supposed to be turning a new leaf and being healthy! Will try again this week I really need to loose a bit of chub! my pup is doing ok thanks for asking, she keeps taking fits though and her sight is going. She still seems to have a pretty good quality of life at the mo so hopefully that will last.

Smidge when do your stitches come out? How's downregging going?

Bushy it sounds like you may be a little depressed, would you go to your dr or a counsellor do you think? You've had such a hard time so it's to be expected really. This will pass though, and you will feel better at some point, hopefully soon but we are all here anytime you need us. I know what you mean about people beating you to it, my assistant told me they are going to try for no.2 next year, my dh helpfully laughed and said I bet they have a second before we even have our first. That point hadn't really registered with me til he said that then I panicked I was just thinking gosh, she's clearly never struggled with no 1!

There must be some good luck coming the berries way soon, I vote we get a new fertility dance going and maybe indulge in some new woo!

Just throwing a random thought into the mix.
After failed fertilisation and the technician tells you x amount failed they may or may not give a reason. What if they are lying? There is no way to tell is there? Essentially we are giving money for something with often no proof that we are getting what we pay for. Does that make sense?
I've had wine too

you're all right about the IVF-money offer of course - it is just them being kind. But still, not sure I want to offer any possible excuse for possessiveness, which is already a fairly dominant feature of their grandparental behaviour. Hopefully it won't come to that anyway.

bushy I'm really sorry you're so down at the moment. There's no shame in feeling things are hard, when that is how they are. Nor in seeking help. I've been terrible at that in the past and only wish I had learned to take my emotional wellbeing more seriously at a younger age.

What do you do at a meditation weekend, wild? meditate obviously, but not all day surely?

Realise that the dishwasher comment now looks weird. Cos Mr nol is so often on nights, I do spend a lot of evenings on my own (very happily so) and i quite like the sense of smugness order which having a clean house and dishwasher on confers. Weird I know but there is it.

beaky am up for a new dance. We are so due a round of luck.

seren not sure what to make of your comment. Not only woudl that behaviour be completely unethical, it would also be illegal and result in termination of their medical careers.

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass, 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 failed cycle of ICSI. 1 frostie and 1 more private cycle already paid for. Appointment at end of month to discuss plan of action.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
*Jelliebabe( - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.

Seen - there is no real way of knowing, however no clinic would knowingly do something like that as reputation and success rates are everything in the ivf business. As well as being unethical etc

Nolly! I Dont have a dishwasher (hubby is the dishwasher) but I get the smug "my house is lovely and sparkling" feeling! I particularly like coming down in the morning to a super clean kitchen

Thanks for the sympathy berries. Mr P is slowly on the mend and hopefully picking up some mew teeth this week (he lost 3 in the accident). DSis will be ok in time but shall take a while to get over shock and change of life plans. so crappy for her. she's taking some time out which'll help. jellie yep it's all off. thankfully not paid deposits yet which is something. good luck with the leaf turning....do you mean healthy eating?

smidge i hope the removal of stitches goes ok tomorrow

lumen is it tues you have your scan? fx your body's been doing it's thing correctly.

tiger did you get to the cinema this wknd? we went last wk and saw gone girl. wasnt the crime story i was expecting at all!

Wild how was meditation wknd?

HB made any decisions on your next steps?

Gill great news that you can now plan with getting on with down regging... based on a similar timeframe (which i realise may be totally out) i think my ET would be end Nov. glad wedding was good. i always find them very emotional! even if it's just watching Dont tell the Bride!

hi boodle! i remember you from backalong - how things going? and welcome back serenity, sorry to hear about the job. how long you been in the new area? settled in yet? looks like we'll be going through icsi similar time.

bushy i had to use the 'not yet' one this week and also smile nicely after being asked about kids. it's draining. i've heard from my friends how common ivf babies are too. you really dont realise. well done on the cereal box game! i suck at it! i would def be one berry up for prosecco and cocktails altho i have promised myself that i am now off until after icsi for the next 10 mths or so. i have friends already on kids 2 & 3 and it's so hard when you cant get to #1 but we have to focus on ourselves and the little steps we make along the way and the other things that make us tick along.

nolly have you decided what to do about the offer of finances? it is very sweet of them and i'm sure they wouldnt have thought about it in an 'owning your baby' kinda way but i can see where you're coming from. i guess it depends on how tight finances are. hope you get an offer soon. how long you been on the market now? i am also reading cazalet chronicles! on the last one. really enjoyed them for anyone thinking about it.

happy if i'd known you were at bristol zoo i could have brought my niece along! she was staying for the day and i've still not been.

looking forward to getting drugs on Tuesday...mostly so that i can see what kind of exciting packaging they come in given i'm a newbie!

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass, 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 failed cycle of ICSI. 1 frostie and 1 more private cycle already paid for. Appointment at end of month to discuss plan of action.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.
Pixie, 33, TTC June 12, DH has zero sperm count but managed to extract some under surgery, start downregging in a week, long protocol, ICSI Nov

Evening my lovely ladies.

pixie yes we went to see Gone Girl. I enjoyed the book more, but then already knowing the outcome probably makes the film a bit less exciting! Personally I think the film should have been darker and more chilling. Glad to hear Mr P is on the mend. Both my grandad and my mum's husband lost front teeth in bike accidents, I think it happens more often than you might think!

smidge the stitches do get annoying - you'll be so chuffed to have them out that you won't remember to be squeamish!

serenity it seems very unlikely. Hospitals are very efficient and have tight controls to stop those kind of things from happening. I think though, it is kind of hard to put faith in things that happen in a lab and outside of your control. Hope you enjoyed the

Had a lovely day yesterday, mooching around a vintage fair and little independent shops, a market and then cooking some yummy food and the cinema. OH and I also spent some time discussing out future plans for moving etc, which felt nice and positive and not scary.

bushy I have felt like you describe at various points, and very much so in May/June this year. Can you manage a break away somewhere? That's what helped me - a summer of fun! Even if you can only do a weekend away. OH and I like to find a band we want to see then have a weekend away wherever they are playing. Hugs to you though, we have a few friends on second pregnancies and 5 friends due in November so dreading that round of present buying and baby kissing, much as I love a new born cuddle. I am kind of enjoying a child free life at the moment but I'm sure the sadness isn't too far away as af is due in a couple of days.

Sounds like a fab day happy, hope you and dh had a lovely time together. Great quote, it's funny but I said something very similar to oh yesterday. It will be SO worth it.

wild hope you had a relaxing and mindful weekend.

gill hope the wedding was fun!

nolly how's the rest of your weekend been. Have you bought in London? Am scared of getting back in to the London property market!

My stats for the list:
Tigerdog, 34, ttc 21 months. Unexplained after all tests and currently on waiting list for IVF.