The Elderberry Pavlovas: Hanging up our fertility crystals, relaying the Yellow Brick Road and chasing that chopper. We want our BFPs and we want them now! (Thread 22)

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Hey berries I am back from Germany (Bremen for those that asked).

happy I was very sorry to read your news, it is so crappy after all we put ourselves through. Hope you and Mr H are supporting each other through it.

pixie great news on the swimmers, when do you get the blood tests back to see if you can start sniffing in two weeks?

smidge good to read that your lap went ok, I remember you telling us that AliG said you could try this month

Hope everyone else is doing ok, am on my phone so can't name check all with my crappy memory.

I am still sniffing, have down reg scan a week today. Have had slight (tmi) brown spotting for the last few days, think I might have been overdoing things, was a very packed weekend visiting my bro and his family. But I have the day off tomorrow to take things easy and celebrate getting another year older 35 and still not diffed

Happy birthday for tomorrow lumen! Hope you have a lovely day celebrating.

smidge I dreamt that the tiny scar where my lap incision was got massive last night, that'll teach me for going on mumsnet just before bed and talking about stiches!

bushy how are you doing?

Very long day in the office today, am knackered now. Can't believe it is only Tuesday. Trying to console myself by making some nice low key plans for the weekend. Thinking cinema, vintage fair and brunch for starters.

I had to move our IVF information session from this Thurs afternoon to 3rd November, as we couldn't get the time off to attend during the day. They are usually in the evening, but for some reason had decided to run an extra one during the day. I don't know if it will affect the timing but hopefully not.

How is everyone else?

You're welcome smidge. The Womble song was on because someone gave me a CD of 1970s No1 hits as a birthday present. You just can't ignore the Womble song once it's playing!

Welcome back lumen - Bremen is not somewhere I've ever been, any good? Have a lovely day tomorrow and Happy Birthday.

tiger there is so much juggling of dates with this TTC malarkey, it really gets annoying and I know I can get a bit uptight with trying to make everything slot together perfectly. Learn to let go wild! I'm sure you are way more sensible than that.

Busy week for me and then away from Friday night, so trying to get everything done before then. Sleep tight Berries.

Wild remember you're a wobble??

Smidge hope you are recovering ok.

Welcome back Lumen! Does the sniffing bring on spotting after AF? How long til you're down regged sufficiently? Happy birthday for tomorrow!

tiger shame you had to put the appointment back but at least it's only a couple of weeks. Hopefully you will still be on course for jan IVF.

Happy how are you getting on? Thinking of you.

X post wild!

I can't stop singing that song now, beaky!

just wanted to say hallo all berries and hope al well. nearly drowned on way home today it's raining so hard.

Have promised myself a proper catch up on Friday so will say hi properly then

Hi All, finally back to reality after days away at conference......good time but got a little drunk. I had no time to myself so couldn't post or catch up.

Thinking of those who have had bfn's in the last week or so, hope that you are all doing ok.

All ok here (other than the tiddliness) lat week. I've finally stopped my meds and so am now awaiting the witch so DH and I can decide if we are going to go for this one. I keep seeing the anaesthetist who did my EC GA and he just keeps smiling and raising his eyebrows; sweet really and nice to know he cares (well either that or he is remembering all the hard times I have given him and so can't wait for pay back!)

Hope none of you are drowning in the rain!

Glad the lap went well Smidge.

Hope the sniffing is going OK Lumen.

Welcome back HB. Yes it was also chucking it down in Manchester too this evening so gave Bootcamp the heave ho and became one with the sofa instead.

AFM, finally heard from the FC today. All good news, I can start down regging again on the 4th Nov. She even said that I didn't have to have another teach appointment as she was satisfied that I knew what I was doing ( gold star for me). Based on my last FET, I reckon ET will be sometime around 12th-15th Dec so looks like a very dry Christmas for me! This is assuming that the "Womb of doom" behaves itself and remains polyp free! This has got to work ( in terms of just getting to being PUPO) as don't think I can cope with a third failed cycle. (To use my Krypton Factor analogy - I keep getting stuck under the netting. I need to move onto the six foot wall which I liken to implantation.). Think I've gone slightly delirious now, must go to bed.

It's been a bit quiet on here over the last week. I hope everyone is doing ok, especially those on the never to be september cluster diff. Fx you have got new plans in place and looking forward to good things.

I picked up my medication today. My clinic has just opened a little satellite office nearer to home, which is way more convenient (loads of parking spots available, and free before 9:30am). Apparently I can get my bloods and ultrasounds carried out there, though have to book in advance as hardly anyone is using this office yet, so they only get the appropriate nurses to be there when booked ahead. All good except the lady on reception was the nurse that struggled most with taking my blood last round, and now I'm wondering if it will always be her, or if they just do a roster and diff nurses are there on diff days of the week! Always seem to find something to worry about.

So I have my meds (disappointingly not presented in the superb thermo bag thing that I got so excited about last time - luckily I kept the last one obviously so have re packed them in there). I'm supposed to call on first 'full flow' day to find out when to start taking them, but this is where I'm struggling. Bit daft really, but the main issue is that I'm having to use pads this month instead of tampax (coz of the lap), and I can't work out how much blood on the pad equates to my normal full flow using tampons! Especially as when going to the loo some blood/clots are lost down the bog and I can't judge what their equivalent would have been if soaked in a tampon! Eeww, I know, tmi. But v confusing! Especially when coupled with the issue that I can't work out what aches are surgery related vs. pmt, and some blood will be expected anyway coz of the lap (my cervix bled apparently and they had to do something to stop it bleeding when they removed their implements... Thinking this might be why I find ET and hycosi so awful, silly tiny cervix opening!). Add in that I'm not sure if lucrin impacts periods too and I'm a bit lost.

I think I will make the call that today is day 1 tbh, and hope that if I'm a bit out it won't matter too much.

X-post Gill. Great news you have graduated from the teaching academy , and excellent to have a start date in mind. Loving your Krypton factor analogies. Will you be sniffing or injecting for down reg?

FX your womb of doom behaves itself. Surely (she says hopefully) the down reg drugs must help keep polyps away? I shall draw up some 'no more false starts' placards and we'll have to think of a suitable chant.

Glad you got your drugs smidge. Mine didn't come all nicely packaged this time either

Not sure what to suggest on the full flow but I am sure a day or two won't make a difference.

Have really had enough of sniffing, this part just really seems to drag. The spotting has stopped thankfully but I am really not sleeping well. Have to say I will be glad to start injecting next Weds and then have the 3 weeks of stimming, EC and ET to keep me occupied.

Hope all others ok, quiet in here at the moment.

Any new lurkers who haven't posted yet? Join us, it really helps to talk to people who are going through the same things and the berries are the best support

Seems they must save the nice packaging for wooing the newbies!

Didn't have to worry about AF after all - about 2 hrs after I posted, it was quite obvious that she had arrived! So I can relax now and start drumming tomorrow.

Stimming!!! Not drumming - ha ha iPhone autocorrect

Ha ha, drumming sounds like more fun than stimming, maybe we should do both? A great way to take out frustrations. Do you know when your EC is due to be?

I think drumming would be very therapeutic smidge! Good news that you can get started.

Fingers crossed for you gill now that you have a plan of action.

Waves to nolly and hb

Just got out of a run of 5 hours straight of meetings with nothing to drink as no refreshments provided and I forgot my water bottle. I am so dehydrated!!

Going to leave early today to go shopping and have dinner with Mr T so all good!

Have a nice time with Mr T tiger and get some water in you woman!

Hello Berries...long time no see - I bet most of you don't know me! (Oooh, that makes me feel like a wrinkly old berry.) Best of luck to all of you on the TTC / IUI / IVF wagon. I'm a little bit beyond that now and don't have a lot to add here anymore but still have an affinity with the Elderberries!

I'm only guessing lumen but expecting EC to be roughly 28th Oct. First drumming session this morning ;-) and somehow seemed to have a touch of the fluid dribble out after injecting . Note to self: must improve. Hope you had a good birthday with lots of by the way.

Hope other berries are doing well.

Currently listening to a neighbour trying to sing. Oh dear, wailing doesn't even start to describe it, she really doesn't sound good... (not that I'd be any better)

Can I join in again? I'm back on the IVf wagon again.

Hi Nolly hope you aren't too run off your feet with work! Have you guys started house hunting yet?

HB good that the conference went well, and that you've been able to stop your meds. Are you long or short protocol?

Gill fx for the polyp free womb so you can finally get your krypton factor team on board I hope you get the best Christmas present ever!

Smidge great that AF has begun and you can crack on with this cycle.

Lumen it does seem like extra long protocol!

Tiger that sounds like a long day! They could have at least gave you a cup of tea

Hi Boodle nice to see you and your wrinkles round these parts

Seren! How are you? Have you started your next cycle then? Nice to hear from you.

Smidge try drumming along to your neighbours singing?!

I've not heard from the FC yet, since I asked about the IVF. May ring them to see what's happening

Ha to drumming! Smidge! !y tablet always writes fur instead of for!

Hey berries
Sorry for being quiet for a week. Rather crazy time in pixieland...
The Jeremy Kyle moment last wknd was my sister's fiance called off their wedding. Turns out he was unfaithful last year and has a baby.... She obviously didn't have a clue and was busy planning their wedding for nxt year (seriously, apart from dress it was pretty much there...). She just can't believe that you think you know someone after 4 yrs to find out it's all a lie. So upset for her.
In other news, been in a&e this week with mr p after he came off his bike quite seriously. He'll be ok but has lost 3 front teeth and has a pretty gashed up face (as that's what he decided to use to break his fall.)
In better news my blood test came back normal which means I've now gone ahead with ordering drugs. Start sniffing next wknd.
Sorry for me me me post, I'll catch up better over wknd but hope rest of you berries are ok.

Oh my word pixie what a mad week for your family. Your poor sister. Imagine the standard response is 'better to find out now yada yada' but what a dreadful shock and how awful to find out this all happened a while ago. Revelations like that make it very hard to trust people/your own instincts, poor thing.

And Mr P in the wars too. Hope you have access to a good dentist and great dental insurance!

Glad the week has ended on a more successful note with your blood results.

Welcome back Seren, let us know your plans.

Hi Boodle 'fraid I don't recognise you - would be interested to hear how your ttc story has/is panning out. Hope life is good anyway.

tiger hope you had a fun night and are drinking properly again. I'm back on my 2L of water a day routine and always find I'm behind schedule!

Hi everyone!

pixie that is crazy. Other people's relationships eh? my sister had a similar experience, but in her case post-marriage and 8 weeks after moving to the states for his job. Who the hell do these arseholes think they are! really sorry. How's mr p recovering? tooth pain is the worst.

Boodle good to see you!

lumen, exciting about your cycle moving along. Who's possibly PUpo before Christmas this year? gil, jellie, smidge… have I missed anyone?

Smidge hope your lap was OK. I’ve only had a tube check where they shoot dye up you, but I felt ghastly afterwards.. probably only up to bongos rather than full on drumkit ;)

Bushy when people ask me about children these days I just say ‘we hope so’ and smile brightly. I try and remember that I used to say the most tactless things before having my eyes opened to TTC hell.

Beaky we have had an offer accepted thank god! But still waiting on an offer for ours so we can chain it up. Work fine but a gazillion deadlines and a psychotic weirdo for a boss. I can’t remember if I posted this before but he’s like a cross between david brent (“woah time out guys” is his favourite) and ted hendricks from walter mitty (see minute 00.40)

Anyway, did you decide to do catching rainbows? I know some of the older elderberries were v keen – Barking I think had one. I’m also having trouble getting though to clinic. I was going to try and arrange a lap and dye before my appointment on the 29th but I’ve called about 5 times and each time either I can’t get though, or someone puts the phone down on me, or I go through to an answerphone, etc eetc. Seriously who has time for this!

Wild intruiged by womble link… hope your week calmed down.

Hb your anaesthetist sounds sweet. How are you feeling about next round?

A very close friend recently revealed that she’s up the duff- afte trying for 7 months. She’s had gynae trouble before, and I’m pleased for her, but she did say “I know what it’s like as we’ve been trying for so long” and I just thought… well, no, you don’t actually. 26 cycles now.

On that note, Mr Nol has told his parents (after his terribly tactless mother kept asking) and they kindly offered to pay for a round of IVF. Which is sweet of them, but really, I don’t want to feel like they own my baby, you know? They are trying to be kind, I know. I wish they didn’t know in some ways, as I’m dreading the “ how ARE you” pity/concern all the time but at least they should shut up now. And not bang on about our nephew all the time.

Sorry my language has gone all Mitford. I’ve been reading a lot of early 20th century books lately (mainly the Cazalet chronicles if anyone wants a really excellent readable yet high class series of books to read) and it has the unfortunately addictive idiom so I go around at work saying things like “how utterly ghastly” and “How splendid” and then feel a right tw*t.

We have our follow up appointment on the 29th. So if I’m not pregnant by then (hahahaha ugh) then I think we’ll ask for a private round of IVF. I finished my clomid and currently on CD33 (normally cycles of 30-32 days) but who knows what my ovaries are up to after all the clomid abuse. Anyway. If no AF by next Saturday I’ll test. –who am I kidding—

Tiger we also have to go for a information session – do you think they take attendance? I seriously doubt they are more informed than the berries! (not joking). Sure it won’t affect the timing of your round. .. surely?