The Elderberry Pavlovas: Hanging up our fertility crystals, relaying the Yellow Brick Road and chasing that chopper. We want our BFPs and we want them now! (Thread 22)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

Just dropping in to say I'm thinking of all you ladies that are PUPO at the moment and sending strong Berrie vibes for a clusterdiff. Will be checking in lots for poas news!

pixie hope your OH's procedure went well and that that got some swimmers.

hampshire poor poochy! Hope he/she is ok.

funky have banged on about it before, but I'm a great believer in acupuncture and believe it
Worked for me. Feel free to pm me if you have any questions.

Glad to have you back hb and to hear that things are going well, hope your pooch is on the mend.

Well done on the decorating tiger and good to hear they gave you more time to decide on the job.

bushy I am impressed with the shagathon, here's hoping for a FUFC baby.

wild I feel for you, I remember all to well what you are going through. I helped myself wait by thinking 'at the moment I am pupo and until I test that is how I will stay'

Bake off was great last night, I really want to go to Patisserie Valerie and get one of their cakes now though.

My knee is healing but I would advise against causing a tennis ball sized scab on an area of your body that has to bend! Damn painful.

Sniffing has been going ok but I am really suffering with side effects that didn't happen last time I have been ridiculously tired but last night was awake from midnight to 5am with hot sweats! Have called in sick today so I can try to catch up on some sleep and am going to cancel my acu this evening as really don't feel up to it. Also started crying at something on the TV yesterday for no reason, hormones! (Sorry for the 'poor me' post!)

Wild I've been watching Christmas films! I know it's a bit early but...

Tiger I think a yes is an exciting choice! But hopefully you feel confident one way or another by the time you tell them.

Oops totally missed everyone else's posts! Feather I hope things are going well for you! How far along are you now?

Lumen the side effects sounds awful, hope you get some sleep today and feel better.

Bushy great effort with shag week! The posh bakery idea while watching bake off sounds fab.

Ooh beaky is that crappy Christmas film channel on now? It usually starts in October. Not that I've ever, ever watched it obviously.

Erm, I don't know Wild I have a stash of Christmas films on DVD... try netflixs?

wild I got all enthused then about the Xmas movie channel but it is too early I seem to think it is not until the start of December?

hallo everyone

Sorry for the no showing lately, I've bee trying to keep up with the news - there's so much of it! Thinking of you PUPO or soon to be PUPO ladies, beaky, happy, wild, lumen, jellie... and anyone I missed.

Hope you have good news today pixie.

tiger I had a good acu experience too, very relaxing. No baby to show for it though.

On that note I think we have decided to go for a private cycle of ivf. bit sad and horrified about it but it's that or wait for another year, and I'm so crap at waiting for even normal things I think better just get on with it. and we've just sold our house so we have some cash atm. sad times, berries.

Oh nolly private IVF is not such a bad thing. You get to choose the clinic you want and call the shots. For me making the decision that we were going to spend the money (admittedly on the far less pricey IUI) was the biggest hurdle. Once we'd decided to go for it the money side only bothered me a very little bit, occasionally. Taking action to get what you want is a good thing.

lumen I'm to find you even know about The Christmas films channel. I'm sure it starts in November sometime. And beaky getting the DVDs out is a dire step, although Netflix is a good thought.

Thank you for the welcome back, and for the well wishes for the hound - he is definitely worth every penny and has kept me sane.

Bushy well done on the mega shag fest, I am very impressed!
Lumen the side effects don't sound pleasant at all! I hope you've managed to catch up on some shut eye. The exhaustion when going through IVF is pretty impressive let alone if you are being kept awake with sweats.

Christmas TV....? How did I not now that this existed? Mind you I am a proper bah humbug so if my body behaves and does what I want it too I am (yeah right) I will be very happy having an EC on Christmas Eve.

Nolly I can't comment on what the NHS experience of IVF is like but from a private point of view our treatment and care has been outstanding. The consultant has always been available, the nurses always see you and when I had collection and transfer they were carried out by a consultant (and a consultant anaesthetist for my GA) and dare I say it the clinic as a whole is a much more pleasant environment than the NHS.

Hi berries!

Been reading but a bit busy to join in properly!

Bushy at shag week! Well done Errrrr keep it up fnar fnar!

Beaky - how's the pup now?

Sorry I've nearly missed everyone out, but I'm off it for dinner with a friend tonight so have to dash (Thai yum). I'm feeling negative today, sure that this go is a bust. Want to test in the morning but hub days wait till Saturday or Sunday... (Might test anyway! )

THanks for the wise words HB and wild. I know - you're right. It's just mentally I never thought I'd actually have to go down this route. I suppose it's just giving up the ilusion that we'll get a natural bfp which I'm struggling with. I'm sure the care will be fab, I've only ever heard good things about private fertility treatments actually. Cheers for the wang

Love the Xmas movie channels wild, and the weekend afternoon premiere.

So my mum thinks I might have an infection from not cleaning my knee wound properly which is why I have been feeling dodgy. She doesn't know about the IVF but I have felt very dodgy all day, off my food and on off sweating. Might check it out if feel the same tomorrow and try to get an appointment at the docs. Could still be dirty in wound as I cleaned it out whilst trying not to faint and there is one dodgy looking spot

Aw Lumen sorry to hear you're still no better, def go to the drs tomorrow if you're still the same. Ahem, the sky Christmas channel starts December 1st

Nolly sorry you're feeling down about things, moving and selling a house are two really stressful emotional things, then you have the ttc on top of all of that so it's to be expected really. Maybe focus on the IVF being a means to an end, I know we would all absolutely love a natural bfp, and maybe that would happen if we waited even longer, or maybe not, but for me I'm not a waiting person either! I've so far had a good NHS experience (except the wait - and my wait was short compared to a lot of other berries) but obv not been through IVF yet. It is a bit less personal (I would imagine!) and bit more like plastering over the cracks I think. But sometimes that's all you need to get you to the goal. I think once you make a decision, as Wild says you worry about it less.

Wild how are you feeling tonight? Still holding out til sat? Fx for you.

Jellie good to hear you're doing ok, I will cross everything for you testing and if you tomorrow, know I'll be thinking of you and hoping for you. Let us know. My puppy isn't so good I'm afraid, and seems to be having "turns" every so often, hoping she's ok though. Thanks for asking.

Pixie any news after Mr Pixies op?

HB I can't believe you don't know about Christmas TV! It's fab when will you be starting your next cycle?

I am really struggling to remain positive about the iui result but I've thought the plan through for IVF which I think at the earliest will be jan/feb next year. I know it sounds pessimistic but I find it helps to have a plan.

How's everyone else anyway? Friday tomorrow and we are off for the weekend to Ireland hooray!

nolly it is hard when you have to take the first active step to start fertility treatment. A little dream dies, the dream of getting your BFP au natural like all the normal people. But the bigger dream, the baby dream, is still there so keep your eyes on that.

lumen ugh, your knee sounds horrible. Worth going to the docs to get it checked out, you don't need any complications just now.

HB if you are planning IVF in December then I would imagine the FC would prescribe you the Christmas TV channel.

beaky I'm alright thank you, my dear. I've caught up with Bake Off and the house is now very clean, which is a nice side effect of the 2WW. I very nearly cracked and tested today but now I think I will make it through to Saturday.

Hope you've had some good news pixie.

Side effects not sounding so good lumen. I hope they start to wear off once your body gets used to them rather than accumulate.

I went to the chemist today to order my lucrin, to be ready for Tuesday (as I was told they wouldn't have it in stock, and it's a bank holiday here on Monday). I hope the stuff comes with all the appropriate needle paraphernalia. The prescription just sort of mentioned 'solution for injecting' which suddenly made me wonder... Ah well, I'm sure the FC will provide it if not.

I rang BUPA to see if they'd give me some money back for the cost (nearly A$300) and they looked it up, but said the Aussie pharmaceutical association has only authorised it's use for men!!! So they won't give me anything back as my prescription is in my (female!) name. Crikey. Did some Dr googling and sure enough that particular dosage (5mg/) says on the leaflet that it's for treating men with prostate cancer!

Might question the nurses when I see them on Tuesday! Anyone else on here taken Lucrin?

wild love your post about prescribing the Christmas channel

Have agreed to a bet with MrSmidge that we won't use our phones for 24hrs from midnight tonight. He thought this would be harder for me, but being the competitive freak that I am I'm coolly taking it in my stride, (not bovvered) and now he's freaking out that he's the one who's not going to be able to survive! He's even been warning everyone that he won't be contactable. Ha ha!

Dear berries - I peed in the designated pot this morning..... Then tipped it away dried it up and put it back! I stepped away from the pee stick.... Not sure if it was will power or fear...

Nolly Dont feel bad about deciding on ivf, It feels like giving up now and it is a bit scary like all things new. Think though you're probably another step closer to your family! Do research clinics. We chose to go abroad due to cost and results are excellent so don't feel restricted to just your local ones. Its really not as difficult as you would think!

Erk Lumen - that sounds proper dodge, deffo get it looked at before they have to chop the whole leg off! Beurk! Hope it feels better soon

Beaky - sorry you're poor doggy isn't right. Do you think this may be why she fell downstairs on the first place? Hugs to you and the pup.

Wild! Are you testing tomorrow! Eeeep! Wonder if I'll be able to resist again?!?!?! Guys luck

Have a good day my berry lovlies

jellie when are you due to test? Is it Saturday morning? Impressed with your resistance ... fingers crossed - and if you have no sign of AF yet, you must be getting really hopeful... Eeek!

no smidge otd is Monday! I'm taking lots of progesterone so shouldn't bleed until after I stop anyway... eeeep must sit on hands, or do some work!

Ah ok, then keep that pot away!!
Good luck

Oh arsebiscuits. No sooner said than I've started bleeding. Fuck it.

It might not all be over jellie, lots of berries have had bleeding but gone on to get bfps.

Went to the docs this morning, had a thorough check up, no infection but he said I just looked like a menopausal woman I then phoned the FC who said there is a flu type virus going around that I might have. Or they both suggested we might be pg. Am not due on until tomorrow and am 99.99% sure I am not. It must just be a bug. Fed up of lying around the house and feeling woozy. Hope everyone finishes soon for the weekend

Oh Jellie don't be too downhearted. As lumen said it's not over yet. Try to distract yourself somehow if at all possible. Anything that switches your mind elsewhere for a bit will help you feel better.

I'm massively impressed with your pee pot restraint by the way.

Oh Jellie I am sorry to hear that but as others have said there are Berries who've had bleeding and gone on to have BFPs. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Get well soon lumen. Look after yourself

Lovely to see you back HB

Nolly I too struggled when we first went to the private FC to start our ICSI journey. Just couldn't believe we'd ended up there. Would never in a million years have thought we'd need help. But once I got over that it was actually a relief that we were finally getting help. Felt like I just couldn't (and didn't want to) do it on our own anymore. Also no part of the treatment is as bad as you'd expect except the fucking pessaries - they are grim

Hope everyone else is doing ok. Thinking of those of you getting close to your OTDs. Have a good weekend Berries.