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joycep · 25/07/2014 17:41

A group of lovely ladies who've seen it all

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loopylou1984 · 06/11/2014 21:45

That's exactly it Buzzy, well summed up :). Fingers crossed for answers tomorrow one way or another. X

Buzzybee123 · 06/11/2014 22:09

sam I hope something happens tomorrow for you :)

MuddyWellyNelly · 06/11/2014 22:42

Buzzy the hat I'm going to need is looking more sou'wester like just now. Sadly the forecast is for crap weather! Well we are loading the iPad up with films and the kindle is full.

Sam, sorry there is still no news. I think I got to about 42 days once and I'm normally 26. Sometimes, your body just goes on strike!

Feeling a bit sorry for myself. I keep forgetting to mention I've got a slightly puffy face, not hugely noticeable to anyone but me but it's there nonetheless. Steroid side effect. And the ongoing anti-bs aren't great for my insides. Now I've got a cold and sore throat (steroids also?), a bit of a headache, dry skin, dodgy guts. Tonight I noticed a very white tongue. Bluergh. Dr Google suggests oral thrush which is a side effect of both the antibs and the steroids. Funny thing is, until yesterday I felt fine (now that the sleep has improved) so I wonder if the stress of worrying about the embies just makes all these things come to the fore; or at least more noticeable. Either that, or I just have a cold that is dragging me down. Hopefully will feel better tomorrow and doubly hopeful that I will get good embie news. I'm really worried about this Confused.

Must try to sleep. Love to all.

loopylou1984 · 07/11/2014 07:32

Thanks Nelly. My breasts are starting to feel the way they usually do before af so we'll see....

Re the white to tongue. I often get oral thrush following a course of anti biotics. You can pick up a kind of mouth wash at any chemist... Although the stuff the gp would prescribe is much better.
Good embie luck to you Smile

MuddyWellyNelly · 07/11/2014 08:48

Thanks Sam, I stop the antibs tomorrow so I'm hoping it will go after that. I'm taking so many drugs I'm going to try to resist anything else.

Had a rubbish night's sleep as I am totally blocked up so not feeling wonderful today. Oh well presumably it means my immune system is low? Hopefully it doesn't fight back though and resist an embie? That's the bit I don't understand!

Anyway I will email later and find out how they are doing and let you all know. Huge good luck to Critter today for the blood test and to Joy for the Scan. These are nerve racking times but we will get through it Smile

Buzzybee123 · 07/11/2014 10:34

nelly sadly that is the shit side of the steroids, I looked like the michelin man, my face was huge, its worth it though, ooooh can't wait to hear how they are getting on :)

joycep · 07/11/2014 10:39

Nelly Sad you sound like you are in the wars a bit. Are you drinking enough water? That should get rid of any puffiness. And sorry about the coldy thing. I always thought having colds at this time is good because your immune system is busy fighting that and not any implanting embryo. But that may be rubbish. Have you had your immunes tested? Are they actually problematic? Anyway big hand hold for the call. We are with you every step of the way. It's stressful, there just isn't any way of avoiding it.
Critter - good luck today for blood test result. Hope you are ok.

Scared shitless here.

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joycep · 07/11/2014 10:45

I saw a pregnant woman get off the bus this morning and she promptly threw up all over the pavement. For the first time ever I thought that morning sickness didn't look so pleasant!

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Buzzybee123 · 07/11/2014 10:53

joy trust me you are not missing out on anything other than the reassurance but there are plenty of other symptoms to be had or not as the case may be :)

MuddyWellyNelly · 07/11/2014 11:17

Joy I hate that you are scared :( Big big hugs and love for you. There is so much reason to be hopeful but I know it won't feel that way. Every day that goes past strengthens your chances so much; but I know it's terrifying. I will be thinking of you absolutely all day and virtually holding your hand. I also agree that morning sickness sounds yuck. What's the saying - be careful what you wish for? But I know we'd take all the MS going if it guaranteed us our bundles at the end.

In embie news, we have 6 perfect 8-cellers still going strong Grin.

I'm a little speechless at that.

MuddyWellyNelly · 07/11/2014 11:28

Sorry I forgot to respond on immunes. No I've never had them tested, I think because I always assumed it was a MC thing, and I never got that far. But in general I'm one of those really healthy people ignoring the duff ovaries and a cold is pretty rare for me. I think Penny is just covering all bases. I'm probably not drinking enough water either, no, so that's a good reminder. I feel a lot lighter again now that embies are still going strong, but strangely it hasn't cured my cold Wink.

Cos how are you today, are you emerging from tent-dom?

Sam any news one way or the other?

Where is lovely Pout, hope you and Big Dog and Little Dog (and Mr P too!) are all well. We miss you x

loopylou1984 · 07/11/2014 11:41

Still no news for me :(
I'd take the morning sickness gladly right now, lol!

raydown · 07/11/2014 12:32

joy I'm here too to hold your hand. I really believe that it's all going to be ok. You've not had any more bleeding, have you? And your hcg was so high. I'll be thinking of you this afternoon.

nelly that's great news. I'll eat my hat if you don't get a BFP in 2 weeks. My clinic gives pred as standard too. Why are you on anti bs? I don't think I'd be keen on taking them because of what side effects they cause.

cos I'm going to snuggle up with you in the tent if that's ok? I've had birth announcements and pregnancy announcements this week that have knocked me. Last night I was floored by one, and ended up a snivelling mess on the sofa for most of the evening. Are you going to go straight ahead with ivf now? I think doctors like to blame eggs, I know my dr is trying to suggest that's our problem too which I find hard to get my head around because it seems like too much of a coincidence to think that dh has shit sperm and I have shit eggs. I very much felt that it was "oh the embryos are shit so that must mean shit eggs" . Just remember euro and centime.

sam I've had a 47 day cycle before. THat was when I had the cyst though. Have you ever had an ovarian scan?

I'm on day 32. Please, please, please let Af show up tomorrow otherwise we are at serious risk of missing out on November natural cycle ivf too. We both have to go away on the afternoon of the 27th, it's something we can't get out of so ec and et has to be before then. It's looking dicey to say the least considering that the last couple of cycles I'm ovulating day 18. I'm so angry with the world right now.

raydown · 07/11/2014 12:33

I hate being sick. I actually haven't thrown up in 10 years. But I would put up with it if it meant I got a baby.

MuddyWellyNelly · 07/11/2014 12:41

Ray I'm so sorry for tent dwelling again, you have had such a rough ride of it. I'm sure shit eggs aren't the cause, and I have a good feeling about a natural cycle for you. It seems to be your body doesn't much like being dictated to, which makes natural a good option for you. I'm sorry the announcements made you cry.

So you are eating your hat if I don't get a BFP and I have to eat mine if I do Wink. Deal! I have no idea why I'm on the antibs, I've long since given up caring as to why. I was on them earlier in the year for hidden C so maybe it's to ensure this is taken care of? I stop them tomorrow though thankfully, it's been about a fortnight again. I didn't realise initially I would be on them and thought they'd given us too many tablets. The enormous carrier bag has seriously dwindled in size. Mostly I've been ok but I'm obviously now run down and susceptible.

I hope AF shows up for you except I hope it doesn't too so you can get the cycle in that you wanted. More waiting.

Cosmonaut1 · 07/11/2014 12:58

Quick work post, will catch up properly over w/e

Joy I'm thinking of you. Tight squeeze. Be brave.

Nelly ace news. Sorry you feel poorly. It will all be worth it.

Ray, here share my thermos and bonfire burnt marshmallows. Tis sooo crap and I share your anger.

Critter thinking of you too

Sam thats not fun, wtf?

Waves all

joycep · 07/11/2014 13:05

Ray - I am sorry about being in the tent. It's just horrible and then to have pregnancy and birth announcements as well. It is cruel and horrible. Big hug. Also these doctors who keep saying egg quality are really pissing me off. You have a fantastic ovarian reserve and an excellent amh. He is talking bollocks. Whoever said above that they are saying it to cover their asses I think are right. there are so many variables to play with in ivf and drug dosage and quality of drugs is one of the biggest factors that can make a difference. Anyway praying for AF for you right now. I'm not surprised you are angry right now.

Nelly - yippee. 6x 8 cells at day 3 is fantastic! I think you have a cold so I'm not surprised it hasn't gone when you got that news! Anyway so pleased for you. It's always such a relief to have good news. And thanks for the thoughts!

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loopylou1984 · 07/11/2014 13:24

Ray - no, I've never had reason to. My cycles have been 28-32 since we started ttc so I thought everything was ok.
We have only just started the fertility help journey (not even had the appointment through yet) - do you think now that I've had this long cycle they might do a scan earlier? X

loopylou1984 · 07/11/2014 13:26

Ps. Can I get in the tent to?
I sit next to someone who is pg with her first, she's just had her first scan so is telling everyone the news and then they turn to me and say 'it'll be you next' or 'you've got all this to come'

raydown · 07/11/2014 13:27

thanks guys. You always say the right things. I feel bad that I'm always saying such negative things when generally there's been a positive stretch on here recently. I think I'm a bit caught up in a pity/feeling hopeless/defeated mood cycle. It's the sodding timing of everything that's getting to me. It's just not possible for us to stop our lives in order to be around for dates that end up moving. nelly you're spot on about my body not liking being dictated to. I've always wanted to be a rebel :)

joy I really do think doctors blame eggs when they want to divert attention away from something they might have misjudged or got wrong. After one of our appointments I had a right go at dh because he didn't stand up for my eggs. I felt that they were getting the blame when we already know that the sperm is a problem so why is there a suggestion that's its my eggs too?

I'm going to be really interested to hear if your gay friends do manage it this month. Has she had 8 pregnancies then? Are they not a bit worried about her going through another one? I'm fairly sure that risk increase after 5.

Buzzybee123 · 07/11/2014 14:07

Joy sorry you feel scared but its normal to be, and you will probably feel like this until around 20 weeks, I used to get very stressed about scans then be amazed that all was ok for about 24 hours then go back to worrying, book in another scan, its what got me to 20 weeks to be honest, the constant reassurance of scans. Big hand hold from me

nelly tis great news :) you shall have frosties :)

ray sorry about the announcement and the tears, I can't believe how much your cycle moves about and feel Sad that you might miss this month, you have a right to pissed off with the world

sam Hmm I'd be hoping that she has really bad sickness and is off work a lot, still no AF

critter hope all is well with you

Buzzybee123 · 07/11/2014 14:09

joy sorry just re read my post, sorry my grammar is not good is it Wink when I said book in another scan, I meant I would then book in another scan, not that you should do so

MuddyWellyNelly · 07/11/2014 14:35

Ray no need to apologise, we've all been at the receiving end of hard times when others are getting better news. That's why the thread is here. I would hate to think anyone feels they can't share true feelings; and heaven knows if I get bad news in a couple of weeks, I will be venting on here full-on-wail style.

Buzzy, fun I read your post exactly the way you meant it. It must be because I can now hear your voice in my head when you say it Grin.

loopylou1984 · 07/11/2014 18:00

Buzzy - that made me laugh Smile
She's had no sickness so far, so maybe it'll come on late? Lol. I don't mean that, she's really lovely and I'm happy for her really, there's just a little voice inside saying 'why not me?'

CritterPants · 07/11/2014 19:23

Joy any news? So hope all is ok. Am on tenterhooks!

Ray so sorry to hear of tent dwelling. Do you know when you oved? I so hope you can get in a pre Christmas round.

Nelly wow at 6 8 cell embryos on day 3! Amazing news. Grin

Sam Hmm at your colleagues. But I hope they are right and you are next! Buzz always has a good way of expressing thing! GrinWink

I heard back - nurse was like 'you cheated!' When I told her I already tested. Then she said she would do the same. HCG is 259 which is exactly the same as with James. Spooky. But hopefully an encouraging sign.

Thanks to all. Cos am thinking of you lovely.

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