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A group of lovely ladies who've seen it all

Sorry pout :( diet breaking it's very much allowed.

Joy you have a proper clutch if eggs there, 6 seems very apt. It all sounds so promising and a better experience. Keeping everything crossed I really am. Can I go to your doctor please?

Pout I'm sorry. Big sisterly hug. What a crock of shit it is. Maybe it was the supermoon? Car, sunset, pick up Brad Pitt in a bar? We could stop at the cliff and have a picnic instead. I too have had long cycles, though this in all honesty is the first time in two years I dared to believe. And that was the longest ever. Is your period heavy when it's late? Oddly mine isn't at all.

I can cope with periods. I can cope with this whole crapfest most days. I can cope with announcements. But the whole shebang together was a bit much. Today I don't feel like I will ever be pregnant, it feels insurmountable. I'm sure it will pass.

At least I'm snug on the sofa with cuntryfile. Did anyone see the dog that has a dolphin friend that was on it? I watched it this morning and it made me feel happy. Momentarily!

Pout FFs. These odd cycles are so bizarre and I am sorry. But bread is divine, enjoy it. Are you ok??
Fox- I hate those days where everything seems against you and all there is fear but you will be a mum one day. Have you had any thoughts about when to start a new cycle?

Oh my God I hate Cuntryfile soooooo much and always think of you fox & have a private little snigger at your spelling I also hate dolphins. It is an irrational hatred, all that clicking and "helping" is all a front. I believe that they are evil and may one day rule the world.
My period is stupidly light too just brown sludge and nothing for most of today. I am steadfastly ignoring that irritating bitch in my head saying ooooh implantation. It is simply more headwitchery. It is very strange though that you too have got the same.
I am so sorry that you believed. It is grossly unfair. Fortunately I never thought that this could be it. It feels like I've been here so many times and the script is always the same.
I'll bring the pork pies, you can bring Brad

When will you hear about ET Joy ?

Pout Lol at your insights into the secret world of dolphins. David Attenborough eat your heart out. Oh I'm so sorry for the headfuck eyre and brown sludge. Sounds oh so familiar. We are so overdue an ironidiff, I don't see why it might not be you, or Fox.

Fox lovely I'm so sorry you too have had such a tough day. Oh I want a magic wand for us all. Enough now!

Joy good luck for tomorrow if ET goes ahead.

Euro it's so great to hear of how chubby centime is getting.

Critter not long now, till twibling time.

Waves all round.

Hi ladies

Late night check in from me - joy that is really great news. I love the idea of a clutch of six. Sounds very promising and I am so glad you're so happy with the care you've been getting, you sound much more relaxed and confident with it (as relaxed and confident as you can be, I mean) compared to last time. Crossing everything for you sweet pea.

Pout I did at your dolphin comment. So sorry to hear that the confusion and stress continues. It is exhausting. I can't imagine how crap it would be to have a glimmer of hope every month. Tight squeeze.

fox aaargh at the A plus announcement combined with what sounds like a chemical. I just want to release you from this awful holding pattern. I hope that you'll be our ironidiff. And if it doesn't happen as an ironidiff, there is still a beautiful little one in your future, I just know it. You will get there.

Heading up to bed after a crazy weekend in Georgia with a group of 12 boisterous, warm, beautiful, hilarious Southern belles of every size, shape, colour and personality you could imagine. It was the most fun I have had in ages and I was so nervous before I went. Will have to go into more detail on t'other place but the weekend involved a parrot, a Pride festival, lots of 90s r n b, multiple dance parties and impromptu photo shoots. I was so nervous before I went and I ended up having such a blast. Also spent way too much money but can't worry about that now. I wish I could have brought you ladies with me and spread some of the love and fun. It's what we all need right now.

Your weekend sounds like just what the doctor ordered, critter I haven't let my hair down in a long time. I have a friend from Georgia, she's wild so I can imagine what it must have been like! I bet you looked amazing in your hat. Is twibling time almost here?

joy any news yet today?

euro centime sounds like she's doing amazingly well, and to think she was a day 3 5 cell! Just goes to show you can't tell very much that early on.

pout and fox it's so strange that all three of us had wacky, long cycles this month. I do wonder if it's the full moon. Mine was also lighter than normal.

I've had the scan and there isn't a lead contender yet. The biggest follicle is 10mm so still a way to go and so I'm going to be scanned again on Friday with ec possibly on Monday. I'm jittery that this will be too late because that would be cd18 which seems very late in the cycle for me but I suppose sort of ties in with my late cycle last month. I suspect Sunday would be better but they don't work Sundays. If we've missed it then we will just try again next month so I suppose it's not the end of the world. My lining was 7.1mm. He did reassure me that my ovaries haven't dried up yet, he said there were lots of follicles and that my amh is high so I don't need to worry about egg reserve. Phew.

fox no sign of hare this morning. I think he's sulking over the neighbour's tree felling. I also don't imagine a baby in my life but that's not a reflection on the reality just my negative thought rut that I'm stuck in. You've had a shit few months but that doesn't mean that your luck won't turn, and I absolutely only see good things for you.

Just popping in quickly to wish joy good luck for ET. I have SUCH a good feeling about this cycle. Mini gin was indeed a 5 celler on day 3 and was a day 6 blast when transferred (and is trying to eat her baby monitor right now) She beat the 6 and 8 cell embies that were transferred on day 3. Just shows slow growers doesn't necessarily mean poor quality. Didn't we decide it means they're girls?!

So sorry the red bitch has been so cruel to fox and pout. It's just not fair (and I'm secretly hoping she'll bugger off and it'll be implantation for you both)

Ray - my cycle are long uns and I ov around day 17/18. Hope they catch ov for you. Do they work Saturdays?

Waves to everyone else

It does seem from our highly scientific study of ten plussers that the slow growers are girls. We should probably collate some type of stats from our group that we can publish and draw major conclusions from :) . Do we have an even split of boys and girls? From memory and I'm missing people :
Art: g (ivf)
Gin: g (ivf, icsi)
euro:g (ivf)
buzz: g (ivf)
free: g
Critter: b (ivf)
Sweet: b
doll: b (ivf)

Art: g (ivf)
Gin: g (ivf, icsi)
euro:g (ivf)
buzz: g (ivf)
bunny: g
free: g
Critter: b (ivf)
Sweet: b
doll: b (ivf)
lemon: b
madness: b

How interesting that we have had so many IVF girls. I think statistically, IVF produces more boys.

joy I'm thinking of you and hoping for good news for you. x

Pout - has your AF still not started properly today??

Critter - sounds like an awesome weekend. What fun!

Ray - you have a great supply of golden eggs so it really will be a matter of time. Don't worry about a thing , it can be done again if timings don't work out but I am sure it will be fine. And really interesting about the stats. Do we know what baby art was at day3?

So Chloe and Joey are on board. I have a lovely picture of them. Not sure I will get anything to freeze. 5 cell is still 5 but fingers cross , 2 others will get there although they aren't the right size for day4.
So when I had my dummy transfer with the doc , he really hurt me and said i needed dialapan which reading what other people had said is very unpleasant. It's a metal rod of sorts that sits up you for 4 hours to help dialated cervix. I never went to do it as chickened out but I didn't need it, transfer was fine apart from the very full bladder. That other doc is obviously hopeless with women's bits

Woo hoo joy I am sending nesting in vibes your way & hoping that you end up with a frostie or two.
Dialapan sounds horrid and I can't blame you for swerving that.

AF has started properly, thanks for asking, and is yukky vom

Woo hoo, joy. I hope they are nestling in well. The dialation thingy sounds horrible and you didnt need it anyway! Perhaps you should draw the other doc a diagram?

pout sorry for the yucky AF. My 6 week lochia bleeding only finished a little while ago. I'm wondering how much of a reprieve I will get before AF returns.

joy that is brilliant news! Hurrah for Chloe and Joey. Sending positive thoughts to the others and hoping you'll have some to freeze.

euro I think breast feeding messes with periods for some people? Hope you and baby centime are doing well.

ray that sounds like a great lining already and like things are going well. Just a few more sleeps to EC. Hang in there!

pout sorry for nasty AF. It just sucks, the disappointment.

fox hope you are ok. Thinking of you.

cos lovely how are you doing? Sending you love.

All fine here. Bit of a stressful day back at work with lots of people tugging on my sleeve as it were, but it's good to be busy, the distractions are doing me the power of good I think.

Oh and to add to ray's scientific theory about slow growing girls - James was the 'leader' of all my embies on day 5. I think sea is expecting a boy too(she must be due soon!).

Joy that's fantastic. Let's hope for a frostie or two as a back up plan that I desperately hope you won't need. What else are you on now? Steroids?

Fox and Pout I am so sorry about the evil witch. It is not fair. Have these late periods/long cycles ever turned into an ironidiff for a 10plusser? I've had 2 or 3 myself and they are by far the worst. It's so cruel.

Ray it's getting there. Maybe you ov later than you think most cycles, do you test/temp?

I have deferred treatment till next month, mainly due to certain fixed events that I don't want to add stress around. So if all went well it should be end Oct/early Nov for an ET.

Had a bit of a stomach punch today. Email telling me a friend is pregnant. With her 3rd, a surprise . I'm happy for her but she's had two difficult pregnancies and doesn't enjoy great health herself. So in amongst worrying about her I'm wondering why nature works this way. And, of course, I'm sick with jealousy.

Nature is strange, nelly. I heard about someone being pregnant with their fourth yesterday, and this is someone who isn't a great parent (understatement) to the three she already has. She loves babies but seems to lose interest fairly quickly and relies on her extended family to do the caring. Next month will be here soon enough, I think there's no rush for yo hand it's better to be in the right headspace.

Joy, woo hoo to Joey and Chloe. I really do believe this is it. You sound so positive it has to be a good ending this time.

I have temped in the past but it stressed me out. My cycles are irregular, sometimes it's day 14 and sometimes as late as day 18. I just think leaving it til Monday seems a bit risky but I suppose there's no point going in too early if it's not ripe. I wonder if slow growing / late ovulation is a sign that something's wrong?

Feel free to update the stats, I can't remember if people had icsi or normal ivf and of coursed what stage they were at for transfer. I think I read that icsi slightly favored boys because they try to pick a fast swimming sperm. But then I think there was a study that showed no bias. When I researched picsi there was something that said it favored girls.

Nelly- nature works in very strange ways. Healthy people get cancer and unhealthy slobs live to a great old age. It doesn't make sense. Anyway well done on deciding on when to start. That is excellent and very exciting. Yes am on steroids but am taking 10mg rather than the 20mg I have been told to take. 20mg makes me feel very uneasy. And of course they give you insomnia so I have been wandering the house at strange hours and not sleeping properly. Also am on gestone injections, antibiotics, cyclogest, progynova, aspirin, fragmin injections (which feels like a bee sting every night), double dose folic for gene issue and that's about it. I presume you will be given similar things to all this. Not exactly natural is it!

Pout - sorry about AF in full flow. It is very cruel.

Euro - oh a diagram would be marvellous for that doc, that's what he needs.

Critter - twibling day tomorrow. How are you feeling??

Ray- on Friday they will be able to tell you how big it is and will be able to assess when to grab it. They may decide to get it on Saturday.

Cos - were you ever on 20mg of steroids? I thought you were. How were they?

Yesterday I had terrible bladder issues as they required you to drink 2 litres of water over 2 hours prior and you had to be bursting. They were running so late that It was so painful I couldn't stand up straight and I pleaded with them to be allowed to pee. Was given a pot and wasn't allowed to go over the marker! By the time i was told to get on the bed 15 mins later, I wasn't able to swing my legs on to bed as so full again so I was given another pot and told not to go over marker. Took some control not to let the whole flood gates open. To make matters worse back on the bed when tipped upside down with 3 people plus a student looking at my bits, the nurse was pressing hard down on my womb just to make it even more uncomfortable. I am very surprised there wasn't a massive accident!

Oh I hate that part Joy. I've got an unreliable bladder at the best of times. And you are stressed enough about the progress of the Embies without trying to time full bladder to perfection!

That is a serious level of druggage. I can't actually remember all what I got. I think both aspirin and clexane. That seems odd doesn't it? And folic acid and some kind of steroids and who knows what else. They are all in a cool box in the shed, I should probably go and find them, shouldn't I??

Ray, I am sure they won't let you go over. I don't think slow growing is a bad thing. I personally think my cycles being so short means the eggs don't get to a big enough size most months. Be guided by them; but maybe if you start to feel ovary pains it might be worth calling them?

Lembie was IVF (frostie) wasn't he? Or ICSI even? Teu had a boy, natural iirc?

Ray I am sorry this is so jittery-making. I don't think late ovulation would be a problem, lots of women ovulate late, but I don't know!

Joy the dial thing sounds horrible, glad you didn't need it. I didn't know folic did more than just prevent spina bifida.

Nelly will you be going next cycle do you think?

joy I took 25g of pred when I was on it (not for the pregnancy, but I tried it for some earlier cycles).

ray I can understand the jitteriness. I was the same. With natural IVF the timing is so crucial as there is only the one follie.

nelly not long now!

Critter, I think so, ish. As far as I can tell I would DR on day 21 of my next cycle. But I've to email when my period arrives (just a couple of days I reckon) and she will send me the information. I can't quite work out dates but I think ET would be roughly end of October/early Nov. I guess it depends on the donor and where she is in her cycle too.

Your weekend sounded fabulous by the way, have you recovered yet? I ended up on a spontaneous big night on Saturday; drank a lot and then miraculously had no hangover the next day. Score!

Euro - I understand that, even with my heavily drugged cycles I still only had one follie. I was terrified they would have popped but both times they were fine. But it certainly adds yet another dimension of worry.

Oh I meant to say "understand that jitteriness". It looks like I was being sarcastic!

Nelly that sounds exciting. I will have everything crossed for a late summer foal for you!

I have twibling number two on board. The thaw went fine, transfer was fine (although I had to pull a joy and pee a bit beforehand because my bladder was so full). Blood test is on Monday 29.