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A group of lovely ladies who've seen it all

That's what it is pout confuddlement. Like what the fuck is going on in there?! Let's drive off into the sunset with our bfps I was thinking of thelma and Louise but that really doesn't work!

How are the confuddled this morning?

I am in the undecided camp still which is annoying as today would be DR day! Well, except now I'm not sure I want kids. I'm still in my pjs deciding whether to go and do hobble stuff now or later. The house is quiet and tidy. I can do whatever I want. I have been reading a thread on AIBU about who does the morning routine and who gets a lie in and I'm thinking meh to all that

Hope everyone has a nice weekend planned. Weather is due to turn soon I believe so going to try to make the most of it.

I get the meh to all that feeling quite a lot these days, nelly. A friend was really moaning about how she has to get up at 530 on weekends and I thought that sounded shit. Sometimes when I'm with other peoples children I do think I'm not sure.

Fox, and pout. Ooh waiting for an update!

Joy, wow, sounds like really good news. You sound so positive too so that has to be a good sign. Fingers crossed for good news today. I'm sure I reds that 8-10 is the best number for quality.

On the subject of meh, today I rather enjoyed these:
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Just to update, I got the delightful combination of an A+ and my period shortly after my last post. It has been the worst A+ so far and I feel....well you all know. I don't know what went on last cycle but the cramps were suspicious indeed. I got myself all in a flap about tubes last night having not had a visible hsg and deciding I might have a hydrosalpinx making an embryo awful environment. Where do these mental panic waves come from. However a rummage found both lap and surgery notes that note the very healthy state of my tubes and I forgot I even have a photo of them! so that put that to bed. The past three months have been a load of old shit. Pout may you fare better than me! I seriously don't know where to put myself today.

Oh and I like my lie ins and spontaneous lifestyle. If only that erased the broodiness...

Oh fox, huge hugs. It's so awful when you get a strange cycle that plays with all sorts of emotions and a a pluss is awful too. Were you expecting it? Can you curl up tonight with a glass of wine, chocolate and a good DVD?

My cousin has set her wedding date for June 2016. She's 9 years younger, I've stupidly set a new target of being pregnant before her. I'm setting myself up off defeat, aren't i?

Oh no Fox. Oh love, that feeling is the worst in the world. You are such an ace person, and I'm so convinced you'll be a mum eventually. Massive squeeze gorgeous girl.

Ray I'm very sure you will be by then. There's so many chances between now and then and lots of different things to try. Did you realise Freedom's Chinese doc is from the same country you're in? There's always something new to try.

Ah ray I think you'll have a baby at that wedding. Things can change on a dime in this game. When does your cycle start? I was braced for it but it was an instadiff and that is hard. It's also the last couple we know in a close friend way to not have children. I feel totally cut adrift at sea now. I don't know what would give me period grumbles for almost two weeks and of course now regret not testing even though I didn't want to test because I didn't want to see a bfn. I've never had a five week cycle and this many high temps but then I've never been down regulated before. My period is stupidly light but temps plummeted this morning. My eyes are sore from crying, my tummy hurts, I feel sad and stuck and jealous and lonely. But what to do. I feel I need to change something but I don't know what or how. Moanfest!

Oh and yes hare is cooking tea and I have wine. I want to see your hare! I think of that hare sometimes.

Thanks lovely cos. It is the total pits isn't it. Like a bowling ball to the stomach. Anyone see that Simpsons episode?!

Right, I'm going to get up early tomorrow to catch sight of mr hare. He ran out in front of me yesterday. I think he's upset though because neighbours have inexplicably felled a load of trees and I don't think he likes the open space so much.
I have one close friend from my circle who hasn't had a baby yet. I know I'll be devastated when they announce. They move house this month so I very much expect they will be ttc soon if they're not already.

Cos, yes I know free is here although the other end of the country to me. I think I'd find it hard to convince mr ray to try anything other than conventional medicine, and it's his sperm we need to improve ignoring possibility that my eggs are shit too

Fox lovely, what a crappy day you have had. It is the total pits and to add in someone else's happy announcement just seems like an extra punishment. You will get there though. You will be a mum one day too. I am adamant it will happen for you.
I think you must have conceived this month. I am not sure that helps in your recovery but it just seems a bit odd. But you have had an appalling 3 months, been kind to yourself.

Pout - sorry you have had a weird cycle too. Any news today?

Ray- you'll have a baby by then. You need to believe that your luck will change and that it will happen. So many people beat the odds but actually the odds are in your favour so just by laws of probability it will happen.

Nelly- have you made a decision about when you will get cracking??

6 divided overnight. I hope they will transfer something tomorrow. Totally forgotten to start my steroids and folic acid. Durr

Joy this is all sounding so promising - extra big hand hold lovely. My period is light, I wonder if the lining struggled to thicken? But those cramps.. I will always wonder. If only. Keep us posted tomorrow.

Joy - this is all sounding promising. So delighted to hear of the numbers and I agree that the quality is likely to be very good. And wow at Roy's contribution and converting to IVF. I have a tingly feeling. Oh sweetheart I am thinking of you lots and sending trillions of positive thoughts.

Nellie -good luck with your decision making. Its great that you can see the values and benefits of a life without children as well as with. But I still strongly feel that you have great chances if you do want to have a baby. Big hugs and hope you had fun with the hobbles. Hope you get the vote you're looking for. Personally I'd be very surprised if we split.

Ray - I will be watching your updates intensely and cheering you on with the almightiest cheering on ever. I found out this week a good friend of mine had IVF and is now in second tri. I was astounded as had no idea. But the issue was male factor due to previous illness. Initial SA showed 2 mil total and no normal morphology and motility. And now she is expecting twins. Can't remember what yours were but clearly their figures were low and they have had great success. I know alternative treatments aren't Mr Ray's thing but acupuncture apparently improved morphology and motility to normal percentage and count to 5 mil just before they started the cycle. So I say keep an open mind, (regardless of the acu bit). The male factor stories are out there and I believe its a numbers game. Look after yourself during these next few days and weeks. Plenty of calcium, protein and rest - and of course obligatory chocolate and crap tv. Sending you big hugs.

Fox - been reading with mouth wide open - what a rollercoaster this month. So sorry for the very stingy a+. What a nightmare coincidence. My only suggestion is to still test if you regret not doing so as any hcg may still be in your system regardless of the bleeding. Although quite understand if you just want to put it all to bed.Hold on tight sweetheart.

Hello to all. Yes baby sar is loving nursery and quite happily gets on with joining in and feeding self etc. Not a tiny baby any more that's for sure.

This thread, as always, has such highs and lows. joy that is such great news. fox I'm sorry you have had such an awful day. I was so hoping that you might be our ironidiff.

critter it has been many years since I set foot in a nightclub. I hope you have a great time. I let my hair down at a fairly raucous weekend in Ireland the cycle before my last IVF round. I hope you will follow the same pattern.

There are some really exciting times ahead for our little gang with new clinics, new approaches and DE cycles coming up.

nelly I'd be so sad to see the union broken. And not just because I think Salmond would be an unbearably smug git if he managed to pull it off. I really do think we are better together. If it is successful, I wonder if there will be legal challenges to the result. I know there are lots of pissed off Scots living South of the Border, disgruntled about being disenfranchised.

sar that's great to hear about baby sar. Centime is still tiny (as everyone comments when we venture to the shops) to others, but looks enormous to us. We had her weighed this week and she was 7lb - more than double her birthweight of 3lb6. We are so pleased. She is far too big for her prem clothes and is almost out of the intermediate "tiny baby" size. Next week I reckon she will be in normal Newborn clothes. She has changed so much already.

ray I agree that June 2016 is ages away and definitely time enough for you to win your baby

joy Great news on the embies. This must be your time.

euro Wow at Centime doubling in weight.

sar Can't believe that Mini Sar can feed herself, surely it can't be that long since you first had her.

nelly I have the meh moments too especially now that I am old. It really has become a battle between my head and heart these days.

fox I am so, so sorry that your period arrived. I can't believe that it also coincided with an A+ announcement too, that is doubly crap. Hope that you are okay. Maybe the Thelma and Louise thing might be more appropriate today
Still nothing here though there are period pain grumblings and I'm still spotting. It really is just a matter of time I think. I'm not sure what the geoff has happened this month. If my period comes tomorrow that would indicate a CD18 ovulation which seems impossible. I'm wondering whether I never ovulated at all.

Joy good luck today if you do have ET

Pout sorry for the wacky cycle. I really do think most of us conceive a lot more than we think but for whatever reason it doesn't take. Not helpful thought but there doesn't seem much of an explanation for it otherwise. What a head nut though.

So no transfer today because they can't decide on one to put back. I still may have a split transfer , one tomorrow day 4 and one on Tuesday. They are using the embryoscope and so they are keeping a close eye. They are going to do assisted hatching as well. They are across my history and if they start to arrest tonight they will put one back tomorrow. She said there is a 5 cell one which isn't doing well and of course I thought of Centime.
I am finding this place much more collaborative and less military than the Argc and their equipment seems to be better and the embryologists are making final decisions not one man.

Joy that sounds really positive, and a whole lot less stressful without all the control having been taken away from you. Fingers crossed, keep going little embies. Great news that they're all still going so far. 6!

Pout, sorry about the wtf cycle.

Joy, that all sounds really positive. I winder if the struggling 5 celler will catch up. Mini gin was similar at day three, I think m

Great news, joy. That's wonderful to have good information too. 6 still going strong is very good. What day is today? Do they look in good shape then, no problems with fragmentation?

Euro- I told her that it could catch up but she said implantation is rare apparently when they are 5 cells on day 3. Centime is obviously a miracle girl!
I feel positive but of course we have always looked good at this stage which is day 3. The next few days have always been an issue but hopefully with the extra things being done this will help.

Well that makes two little 5 cell miracles on this thread. :). Maybe a third is on the way.

joy Things seem to be going well, so pleased. FX for you I'm glad too that you seem more comfortable with this clinic,

In me, me, me news, AF started this morning. I never expected anything else, late periods don't seem to mean sanything for me. All is okay though, nothing that a diet breaking sandwich couldn't fix Why is bread so damn delicious