TTC way longer than 10 months past & present

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A group of lovely ladies who've seen it all

Pout in waterproof news, I have asked my seamstress aka Mum to shorten the ones I have, a lot. This way they can then sit outside my wellies (without dragging in the mud) and I won't get the puffed out michelin man "pantalon" look . For some reason, this exploded goretex look upsets me a lot.

nelly I am liking the waterproof chic/outside wellies look. at exploded Goretex
Since having the dogs I have always thought that there is definitely a market for funkier waterproofs. I'd love a hideously patterned waterproof jacket.

joy any joy?

joy did you get through? That is crazy that they haven't given you a time, unless they want you to do it tomorrow - did they definitely want you to do it tonight?

Also - the $30 per scan is subsidised - thanks to my amazing health insurance, which is one of the things I love most about my job. They cover 90% of fertility stuff (apart from freezing and storing embryos). It still adds up to a lot of money but I am so grateful that I have such excellent coverage.

pout and nelly thank you for saying such nice things. I used to want to be tanned so badly when I was younger, I remember a boy I had a crush on when I was a teenager asking what was wrong with me that I was so pale and saying that I looked like a piece of cod. It's only now that I have learned to embrace it.

Loving the waterproofs chat. nelly I am sure the ambivalence is self protection and the fact that it's such a palaver to do all this. It stuns me that people just get pregnant after a pina colada or too. It's such a production for us.

ray the K middy stuff sucks. Ignore ignore, it will be you soon my lovely.

Oh ladies, thank you thank you, they finally called at 8! Gees talk about leaving it late. I was going spare. I trigger at 10pm. Right breath.

Critter - no of course no amount of negative thinking would have attracted what happened to you. That was tragic luck. I guess that I find it odd that right from the beginning before TTC I thought I would need ivf because that would be my kind of typical luck yet I had no reason to think that. I have actually managed to make myself feel nauseous and dizzy and breathless just by over thinking some things or thiking a drug I have taken is going to have an adverse reaction which says to me the mind can do strange things to the body. I am clearly still searching for answers as we are unexplained probably in the desperate hope that if I just think positively it may change my luck. Silly really. This ivf will probably give us more answers.

Nelly - lovely to see you back and yippee at your baby order. Do you have to go and meet penny? It will be interesting to know how many trips it requires. How are you feeling about everything??

Pout - I hope you have been ok without mr pout. I don't do girlie or glam stuff either. Fashion goes over my head. I haven't put make up on once this year when I do it goes everywhere. I haven't done my highlights since TTC and my last haircut was over a year ago! I sound like such a tramp. I am just happier in wellies and jeans.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions tonight. Seriously wouldn't know what I would do without y'all! X

Oh and you can't leave a message on their phone and also their emergency number was dead. Thank god they called.

Critter that insurance is incredible

Joy phew I was reading along holding my breath! It's my manic work time so can't name check but will return hopefully tomorrow, I need to keep going. Oh and that is BAD probe form! Which means he is obviously bad in bed

Ps no af yet. Perhaps I'm permanently shut down post downregging. I don't appear to feel the cold anymore and crampy niggles continue. I feel lots of pmt though and a full moon always brings it on.

Oh great news Joy! Hope it's all safely done now! We met Penny when we went for the aquascan, had our photos taken and Mr N left a piece of himself there so technically I just need to pay, do drugs. Then rock up for ET. Haha.

Fox I will quietly hope anyway. Boo to manic work. I miss you

Critter, a COD??? What an odd thing to say! But when talking about typically fair Scottish skin we usually quote the Big Yin.

"This is my skin. It's a sort of pale blue colour. I need a week of sunbathing to go white".

Righto off to bed to try to work out how quickly we will be lying to family about where we are going for a few days..

Fox - are your temps still high??? You ovulated ages ago.....quietly intrigued. Oh and that was my immediate thought about his rod handling. I was lying there thinking, he must be really bad in bed.

Nelly - oh wow so this could all happen pretty quickly. Do you get to see a picture of donor??

Oh joy, how annoying that they called you so late. But good news it's done now. So ec is tomorrow? Are you taking the day off work?

Nelly, wow to going to Athens. Do you know anything about the donor? Do your family know nothing about your plans then?

Pout, did you get any further with the investigations on the urinary infections? I hope you've been feeling better.

Fox, any inclination to Poas??

Ray - yes am taking the day off . Made an excuse that I need to go and do a family thing.
Does anyone else hate this bit after doing trigger? I am so scared that I will ovulate before tomorrow . Need to Concentrate but can't seem to .

Joy as you know I did ovulate (unhelpful) but I only had one egg. The cons said often people release the odd one but when there are more than one it's fine as they never all go together ahead of time. That is meant to be comforting!

Ray I'm not doing any testing until the absolute outside maximum has passed. My longest ever luteal phase was 17 days. I only judged ov to be Sunday 24th by ov pain not opk and the temp rise went up gradually over two days. So today I'm 17 dpo possibly but I could be wrong and it's possible it's a cyst not an egg or that my body is just a bit screwed. The cramps since 8dpo are a new thing for me but again, it is a wtf cycle so who knows. I don't get that lucky!

Critter - ugh to the cod comment what a twat. Your skin is AMAZING! My ex told me I looked like et when he was ill. He was such a nice person.

Rubbish catch up again but I'm typing on mn when I should be listening in a lecture. Whoops.

Actually. Maybe my body never did rev itself up and this is a menopausal bbt. That can happen!

P emailed back to say I could DR this cycle (which would be almost now) but I guess it's all a bit too quick and to be honest I can't see how that would give us enough time to have a donor ready. So will probably go next cycle. No I don't think I see photos, fairly certain it's all confidential and you know, I'm not sure I want to. I suspect over the years there will be times when I think a lot about the fact we've gone this route, and I'm not sure I would want to look at my child and see a face I recognise staring back at me. It is kind of the reason we went anonymous vs my friend, albeit there were more complications than that. I'm not actually sure what we would find out. Apparently she thinks she can make a perfect match. But I doubt I will ever know, really.

Joy, On my cycle 2 I had only one egg and they scanned me before to check the follie was still there. It was thankfully. But Fox is right, it's less pressure with more than one.

Ray, how are you?

Critter, good luck for the scan.

I'm getting really worried about the Indy ref. Has anyone read the questions to AS/AD for today's web chat? Some of the news stories make me incredibly fearful for our future.

Fox! You are not menopausal.

Nelly that is exciting that it could be so soon. I think it's the right call not to see pics of the donor. Babies usually look like their dads though... I am sad about ref too, had a slightly irritating convo last night with a friend who lives in Edinburgh banging on about how exciting it was that people were now so politically engaged, that she hadn't made her mind up yet etc (said friend is English but has lived there four years) I didn't say anything but I would be if you left.

Joy this is all the most stressful part. All you can do is breathe, and hang in there.

Fox I'm not going to get excited for you on purpose but sending you love and quietly hoping this is our ironidiff. ET?! What a nobber. Glad you got shot of him.

Ray when's your next scan?

On phone and struggling to read back. Saw dr today. She said my lining was 6.5 in some places and 9.5 in others- which seems on the thin side. My usual doc is on hols and back tomorrow so she said to just see what he recommends in terms of a timing for the transfer when he gets back and sees the results of my blood tests. She said it'd be some day next week and if I wanted we could make it next Friday so I'd have the weekend to chill but I said I just wanted to get it done and dusted as soon as I could. Will update when I hear from other doc.

Big sigh of relief for you joy. What an awful lot of worry for you that was so easily avoided if the clinic had done what they said they would (never mind having a number that works. That is a disgrace). Exactly what you didn't need!
You sound very similar to me in the groomed stakes. I live in my jeans too. I do admit to wanting to be more adventurous and do salivate over the LaRedoute catalogue but I just find it impossible to change (or if I do buy some nice bits they sit in my wardrobe because I am "saving" them for a better occasion . I have just shocked myself and realised that I haven't been to an actual hairdressers since I lived in London which was well over 6 years ago To be fair MrP's mum has had a go since then and MrP does it the rest of the time but I am quite ashamed by that!

critter I think that nasty boy was mistaking cod like with flawless.
I don't remember much about lining thicknesses. When will you get to speak with the doctor to confirm a date for the ET?

Hello Fox Glad that you are okay(-ish!). You are absolutely not menopausal (if you are then I am too!) while I am obviously hoping that this is our threads long overdue ironidiff there is the possibility that your system is adjusting and settling down. Also if you're not using OPKs maybe you ovulated later than you thought. This has happened to me the last couple of cycles. I was convinced I ovulated super early 9cue panicking about weak ovulation & perimenopause), even had the cramps, but AF came later indicating a later ov than I thought. Happening this month actually
ET???? Wow what a prick. I always think from your FB pics that you have great skin and how perfectly even your skin tone is, almost alabaster-esque.

nelly I too don't want Scotland to leave the union. I keep trying to talk about it to MrP who is Scottish but he seems really not keen to talk about it though if anything I reckon he leans towards leaving he can come over all William Wallace sometimes we nearly came to blows watching the recent programme on BBC2 about finding the battle ground for the Battle of Bannockburn
Wow at the quick progress from Penny. I agree about donor anonymity.

ray thanks for asking about the urology thing. I'm still waiting to hear about a referral though I have my UT scan and all was well. I'm feeling much better than I was thanks!

Pout I'm so glad that things are better on the UTI front. That's good news, and I hope your referral comes through soon. I used to save things for best and am trying now not to do that... Due in part to morbid thoughts about mortality, this being all the time we have etc.

I start progesterone on Friday and ET will be on Weds. So in a week. I guess that means the lining was ok.

Thanks ladies for saying you want me to stay . I am so sad about it. Today I, err, cried on the way home thinking about it! I couldn't bear to think I'd not be British any more. I can't believe it could come to that :( I am up very late as I've just read all through the webchat.

Anyway just wanted to say good luck for Joy tomorrow. Hope for lots of lovely eggs for you xx

critter that is soon :) Hooray for twibling

Sorry I can't catch up more, it's too late and I've just realised I'm quite cold, must go to bed.

Good luck joy! Sending you a huge gentle hug and positive thoughts and love. Hope you are soon recovering on the sofa with ice cream and salty potato crisps and a Gatorade.

Nelly the whole independence thing is very sad to me but I feel like it's not my place to say anything. I am so sorry it's so upsetting you.

Good luck today, joy. I hope you've got an evening of sofa and tv planned.
Nelly, what's the word on the ground? It's hard to know whether the polls do reflect reality. What's the atmosphere like?

Critter, I think you'll be a bit ahead of me if et is next Thursday. I didn't know he lining didn't grow consistently in size across the whole uterus. You lean something knew everyday on the 10plus thread :)

Hello -reading and cheering on and sending virtual chocolate and ice cream to those who need it.

Joy - oh wow honey, this could be it. Positive, positive, positive thoughts!!! Big squeeze.

Ray and Critter and Nelly - sending you both lots of love as you jump back on the saddle. Positive thoughts too, I'll be quietly cheering and hoping.

Big waves from me and sloppy kisses from mini sar who is running amok on her first day at nursery

Just popping in to wish joy good luck. Hope it went/is all ok and they get that golden egglet!

Sar hope mini s enjoyed nursery!