New balls please! The BESH are hanging out the cunt bunting for Wombledon and saddling up for the Tour de France!

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Rules of entry: must be ttc #1 for over a year, be suitably evil and hag-like, and submit your BESHtionnaire for our approval. If you are a baby duster or a hun, this ain't the thread for you.

Right I'm off out to celebrate with a day in the hills among the thunderstorms doing activities of the undiffed. What's everyone else up to? Hoping your feeling a little less menkul Fankle.

No experience of downregging cherry but exciting to be getting closer .

I'm off to France for 3 weeks. supposed to be in the camper but it broke down and we're squashed into the car with the dog and a tent instead.... As a result our plans are quite fucked up as a lot relied on just pulling over and kipping in the van but hey ho. Had to leave a wedding early yesterday to sort it all out. Wedding was ok. Managed to avoid the babies but was sat next to a big bump on the table plans so I swapped the place cards around on the table.

In ttc news, tmi alert I was in the shower this morning having had bad cramps and I passed what looked and felt like a lump of cooked chicken, but with blood and a greeny/blue bit. Not insignificant in size, probably about 3x2x1 cm. No idea what the fuck it was but might explain why my hormine levels were still high. Hoping this is finally a sign it's going to be over soon. It's now a day over 4 weeks since the bleeding started.

Found out yesterday our referral letter to the rmc hasn't been typed yet as there's a back log. Earliest appointment we could possibly get is end of September, then I assume we wait for test results and wait for another appointment to discuss them. It seems likely that the earliest we might be able to do the next cycle of iui is November .

So much to say Barking - how horrid for you that you had to pass that, great that it might be the end of things, bollocks that the nhs can be so delayed in doing something as simple as typing a bloody letter but at least it's a free service (I'm a fan even though I rage sometimes) and grrr to such a delay but then potentially hurrah that you'll be back on the bus and actually on the plus side your head will have had plenty of time to get back into the fertility game and your body will definitely have recovered. Phew!

Cherry I think I may have been unusual when I down regged in that I didn't get crazy hormonal - I was more than I would be normally I guess but the biggest thing for me was the down regging sweats. Most of all though I was just crazy excited - we were doing stuff - actually getting somewhere and it was all for a good cause

Yay again for our wonderful Euro and her Centime. A wonderful win for a fabulous lady. I'm scattering twat cushions with abandon as I type!

Cunt bunting, twat cushions and penis party hats galore for luffly euro and centime! I'm assuming it's a she from your post chezza? Massive congrats euro!

Fraid I can't offer any I sit into your dilemma re down regging, but as barking says, exciting news that it's kicking off so soon!

barking please world this is the end of the bleeding for you, and you can enjoy your holiday now (despite travel hiccups - hopefully you're on your ferry safely now!). Bad news about the RMC letter, the nhs can be so frustrating at times. Are you not allowed to pursue private options while waiting for nhs IVF? Our FC said we could have one go before referral, so could you maybe go for the egg sharing after your RMC appt instead of another IUI?

Second woo needles today, was mega relaxing. She only wants to see me once a month, just after period, which my bank balance is pleased about! Right, off to strip some wallpaper in this fucking humidity - gin o'clock can't come soon enough!

Hello ladies! Thanks for kind words. Yes, centime is here and to our surprise, it's a she! She was born at 34 weeks exactly, weighing in at a teeny tiny three and a half pounds, but she's doing really well. I had a horrible time with the section but am healing well and was discharged today.

I'll be putting some photos up tomorrow on FB so if anyone who has befriended me would be upset by that, please hide me!

Handholds for all those waiting for appointments. The interminable waiting is just the worst.

Massive congrats Euro so glad you are home now and healing. What about centime? Is she in nicu? Are you having to go back and forth to the hospital for visits?

Chezza yay! Progress. How exciting. I'll send that book tomorrow.

Barking how frustrating for you dealing with NHS delays. I hope your holiday goes some way to taking your mind off this shit for a few weeks, and I hope that passing that awful thing signals an end to the last month of misery. Drink shit loads of red wine and eat all the cheese and pate and rare meat that you can. And ENJOY it! What a shame about your camper van..but this will be an adventure!

I just had a lovely couple of days in our nation's capital- hot and humid though it was. Work was involved briefly but then I met friends, had lovely afternoon tea with SO many yummy cakes. MG came to meet me and we had a lovely dinner and stayed in a swanky hotel. Also managed a bit of shopping (avoided buying clothes though as I'm in the fat phase and it's just not very sexy). I know in my head that the chances are everything will be fine, but as I get closer to my 16 week appointment on Wednesday, I can just feel the menkul increasing. My fluctuating bump/fat bit is seriously wierding me out and as I've been boob-prodding for months, having no pain or tenderness is worrying. Did I mention I have no pain or tenderness in my boob area?!

Hey hags,

Euro!!! Huge congratulations! And well done on going through all this and being and example of resilience and badassness for all of us - inspiring!

Barking Poor you. It is unbelievable, the traumatic things we have to go through in this journey. I hope you have an amazing holiday full of soft cheese and red wine, like the others said.

Fankle Sending you lots of positive anti-menkul vibes. I would be exactly the same! Hope that the scan on Wednesday

Rain - I am really considering acupuncture once I'm back home - have you had it for long now?

Hope everyone else is having a good week end!

I should start my testing for RMC you mid September but I think I have developed a mild phobia to hospitals and I may take a longer break than initially planned. Anyone any experience on this?

fankle the variation in symptoms from pregnancy to pregnancy is menkul-inducing enough even for smug instadiffers let alone us barren old crones so can only imagine the mental torture. Am sure you'll have a great scan tho and all will be well. Turbots of tranquility till then tho.

Erica only 2 sessions so far. Tbh my cycles are boringly predictable and my acu lady has been pretty upfront about the fact I've not got much to 'fix' but my aim is to a) just relax and utilise the time for some placebo effect 'treatment' plus b) encourage a good blood flow to the uterus in time for ovulation. Woo is my new friend!

Was at a dragon boat race today (RAF competing with his work). Literally bump city, made all the better by one of his colleagues patting her minuscule 'bump' and telling me not to stand too close to her unless I wanted to get pg as it was 'catching'. Was totally torn between telling her I didn't want to stand next to her anyway cos she's a smug twat and wanting to basically stand as close as possible in case it was true. Pathetic!

Hope everyone's had a lovely weekend!

Oh Barking, this thing just keeps kicking hey? So shit you have to go through this and wrapped in with the camper van and the NHS delays it's proper wank dude. I hope you have a lovely getaway regardless.

Urgh Rain what a stupid thing to say. Someone who should know better as they have an adopted baby asked me about baby Coconuts the other day. Grrr. I gave it a sarcastic 'oh the stork must be out of stock' and got an awkward silence. I think I made my point.

Thanks for the downreg advice. I hope the thought if stopping the HRT is worse than actual reality. It's my security blanket for functioning, wrapped into paranoia about osteoporosis, heart health blah blah. bugs you're right, just got to keep remembering why we're doing this... but I do need to be able to do my job at the same time too.

euro I'm so happy for you, you're an inspiration to us all hope the two of you are home together asap.

Ta for the sympathy hags.

cherry love the stork comment, might have to try a variation of that myself

rain I'm hoping the NHS options will work, so we won't need a private cycle at all. The cheap option is still around £2000 . Just scary that our decided last resort might not be possible anymore. No point doing one while we're waiting for the mc appointment and test results in case they find something wrong.
That catching comment would have riled me. I don't think I'd be able to resist a sarcastic reply. "You're shitting me! For over two and half years I've been shagging my husband senseless and trying every fertility diet, western medicine option and woo trick going, and all I had to do was stand next to you?! Why don't you get it printed on a T-shirt so all us silly, barren women know where we're going wrong?"

Erica Not a phobia, but I went through a period when going to the hospital would make me very emotional and even boring appointments like the dermatologist or physio would have me in tears as I walked through the hospital corridors. That was way before TTC, after a week long stay when I had acute colitis. My advice would be to not put it off as the thought is often worse than the thing itself and you could just build it up to get even worse. Can you get some counselling to talk through it?

I think the mc has turned into AF since passing the weird chicken thing. It's now heavy and bright red. So do you think I'm safe to use tampons now?! I'm having to change my pad every couple of hours, I'm sleeping on a towel as I'm scared of leaking on the white sheets in the gite we're staying in, and I'm on a bloody cycling holiday! Sweaty, leaking pads are not the way forward!!

euro I'm so happy for you, you're an inspiration to us all hope the two of you are home together asap.

Ta for the sympathy hags.

cherry love the stork comment, might have to try a variation of that myself

rain I'm hoping the NHS options will work, so we won't need a private cycle at all. The cheap option is still around £2000 . Just scary that our decided last resort might not be possible anymore. No point doing one while we're waiting for the mc appointment and test results in case they find something wrong.
That catching comment would have riled me. I don't think I'd be able to resist a sarcastic reply. "You're shitting me! For over two and half years I've been shagging my husband senseless and trying every fertility diet, western medicine option and woo trick going, and all I had to do was stand next to you?! Why don't you get it printed on a T-shirt so all us silly, barren women know where we're going wrong?"

Erica Not a phobia, but I went through a period when going to the hospital would make me very emotional and even boring appointments like the dermatologist or physio would have me in tears as I walked through the hospital corridors. That was way before TTC, after a week long stay when I had acute colitis. My advice would be to not put it off as the thought is often worse than the thing itself and you could just build it up to get even worse. Can you get some counselling to talk through it?

I think the mc has turned into AF since passing the weird chicken thing. It's now heavy and bright red. So do you think I'm safe to use tampons now?! I'm having to change my pad every couple of hours, I'm sleeping on a towel as I'm scared of leaking on the white sheets in the gite we're staying in, and I'm on a bloody cycling holiday! Sweaty, leaking pads are not the way forward!!

euro I'm so happy for you, you're an inspiration to us all hope the two of you are home together asap.

Ta for the sympathy hags.

cherry love the stork comment, might have to try a variation of that myself

rain I'm hoping the NHS options will work, so we won't need a private cycle at all. The cheap option is still around £2000 . Just scary that our decided last resort might not be possible anymore. No point doing one while we're waiting for the mc appointment and test results in case they find something wrong.
That catching comment would have riled me. I don't think I'd be able to resist a sarcastic reply. "You're shitting me! For over two and half years I've been shagging my husband senseless and trying every fertility diet, western medicine option and woo trick going, and all I had to do was stand next to you?! Why don't you get it printed on a T-shirt so all us silly, barren women know where we're going wrong?"

Erica Not a phobia, but I went through a period when going to the hospital would make me very emotional and even boring appointments like the dermatologist or physio would have me in tears as I walked through the hospital corridors. That was way before TTC, after a week long stay when I had acute colitis. My advice would be to not put it off as the thought is often worse than the thing itself and you could just build it up to get even worse. Can you get some counselling to talk through it?

I think the mc has turned into AF since passing the weird chicken thing. It's now heavy and bright red. So do you think I'm safe to use tampons now?! I'm having to change my pad every couple of hours, I'm sleeping on a towel as I'm scared of leaking on the white sheets in the gite we're staying in, and I'm on a bloody cycling holiday! Sweaty, leaking pads are not the way forward!!

Rain and Cherry Your posts made me laugh! And gave me lots of ammo for the next time I encounter an annoying instadiffer or just generally noisy person!

Barking I think you are right, the longer I leave it, the bigger the deal it will turn into in my head. I think I may call my gyno when I arrive and explain how I feel so we can arrange the appointments and get it all done asap. Sorry things are getting delayed for you. I feel a bit spoilt for having it all done privately but on the other hand, getting the insurance company to agree to stuff can be a bloody nightmare. Grass always greener etc.

Re: the post mc spotting becoming a period. I thought exactly the same after passing huge clots a few weeks ago. My British gyno told me it was unlikely it was an actual period because you need some time to ovulate and then have a menstruation after miscarrying. However, you can consider this CD1, if you see what I mean? Hope it is all over for you soon!

Now that (potential) ov time is approaching, my resolution not to have a couple of oh-so-casual-just-happens-to-happen-now shags is weakening. I think I may have to do like Barking and get some condoms. See if I still remember how they work!

That does not sound good Barking, esp not on a cycling holiday. I can totes understand your desperation desire to reach for the tampons. I hate pads with a passion and dread having to use them, just can't deal with the bulkiness, fear of leakage, everything about them gives me the fear. I hope someone more knowledgeable than I can answer your query.

Is it because of the infection risk? Can it really be that bad to use tampons?

Eugh barking. I can't imagine sofa cushion towels and a cycling holiday are good companions at all. I'd probably chance it but change v regularly and be vigilant for any signs of infection.

cherry I had an unusually bad time with the downregging, but having been on a lot of IVF threads, I'd say most people have a fairly mild reaction or none at all. Those of us that suffer seem to have had previous bad reactions to the Pill or other hormonal shizzle.

rain how did you manage to hold your tongue? Silly woman.

Thanks for the kind words ladies. You have been in my thoughts. Particularly for all the mini cab rides to and from hospital (KFZK doesn't drive and I can't after the section). I've been taking a cushion with me to put between the scar and the seatbelt, which has been named the "twat cushion" (partly because of its role and partly because it describes how I feel carrying it around the place with me).

I called the clinic earlier. The nurse suggested I took a pg test and if it was bfn I could use a tampon but switch to pads overnight. I didn't want to find a pharmacy and use my pigeon French to ask for a pg test and I didn't want to do a pg test on holiday, looking for a bfn. So I switched to tampons anyway, will change regularly and not use them overnight.
Nice to hear from you euro, the taxis backwards and forwards must be very draining, have they any idea how long centime might be in? Do you have to wait until she would be full term or a certain weight?
Erica I think it's possible to have an anovulatory cycle post mc so I've decided that's what is happening because this much bleeding after 2-3 weeks coping with pantyliners would just be weird I reckon the chunk of nastiness was just holding up the end of the mc and as soon as that was out it was all clear for AF..... Given I didn't have AF for 3-4 months after the last mc I'm seeing this as a good thing .

Barking I think you are good using tampons. After the second D&C they 'recommended' I didn't use them for the first couple of weeks but a) it was a pretty laid back 'recommendation', not one of those 'don't even think about it'! and b) they said two weeks. I would assume that if I had bled for over two weeks, I would have been ok using tampons too. You'll be ok!

Euro I love the twat cushion already!

Good call barking. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Euro the fact you have an actual twat cushion has raised you even higher in my estimations, I hope it's doing the trick with easing the travelling if not helping the street cred.

By the way, I never got a reply to my expressive email to the cheeky lady. I reckon a no response (either email or verbal) is an admission of their overstepping the mark). But seriously, people who make comments like that should not be spared discomfort or embarrassment...it's how we feel ALL the bloody time when faced with pregnancy announcements, bumps and babies..and of course people's insensitivity. Fuck the lot of them I say.

Wishing happy holidays, safe journeys and luffly baby snuggles to all the ESH

Euro - yay!! Barking - urggg, hope you doing ok, rain - stupid bump rubbing wench! - Erica - try to hold out on the shags (unless for fun!) it's honestly been amazing been on a ttc break, it's done wonders for my mensal. Fankle - this won't help but I will offer to drink they gin for you ...???

Limp over heated waves to everyone else

It's quiet on here at the moment. How is everyone?

Fine fine fine but enough about us, tell us about YOU!! And your Eshlet! Pleeeeaaaase!

Yes! More news about centime please!

Today I slapped TTC & mc in the face and despite still bleeding a little FIVE fucking weeks!!! I cycled over 75km in the Pyrenees, over two mountain cols, with over 2,700m of ascent!!! The two climbs were uphill non-stop for over 14km each. In case you haven't twigged, I am proper chuffed with myself . let's not talk about how many times I had to stop in order not to die

Wow Barking that is truly amazing! Makes me being back at work for 3 weeks and being bloomin knackered look a bit feeble, whoops!