New balls please! The BESH are hanging out the cunt bunting for Wombledon and saddling up for the Tour de France!

[FizzyFeet]

Rules of entry: must be ttc #1 for over a year, be suitably evil and hag-like, and submit your BESHtionnaire for our approval. If you are a baby duster or a hun, this ain't the thread for you.

Cherry ?????

She's on hols isn't she?

Grr. Spent last night with a new mother who was chain smoking, and tonight with pregnant friend who was drinking a glass of wine. I spent over two years tee total to be as healthy as possible for ttc and I only properly fell off the wagon after the second mc. Once we gear up to the next IUI I'll be staying sober again, but she's duffed and drinking. (Only one glass not really a small one in my eyes - apparently she's been told she can have a glass a week - but she admitted to having a glass last night as well )

Not fair .

Anyway, spent most of the weekend cleaning the bricks in the fireplace with brick acid, scourers and a pressure washer. It's now 'good enough' as far as I'm concerned not bloody well doing it again

Back off (very lovely holidays) to add to the collective BESH misery. BFN for us. Gutted.

Somehow I must drag my very sorry ass to work this morning and face more shit there too. Cunty fucking bollocks. Really not feeling the love.

Thinking of you cherry. Rise above the work shit, just take things a bit at a time.

The universe appears to acting like a major twat right now, that's 5 bfns following Ivf this month (lots of ivf berries and all unsuccessful) ..

Will you get to speak to anyone tomorrow or is it just a blood test with a nurse?

Oh cherry :-( fucking shitty bollocks

Damn it all, I'm so sorry. Fucking arse.

(Barking I typed out a response to you last night too but my bloody phone lost it)

Hags, much love x

Oh cherry, fuck fuckity fuck. So sorry. Tell work where they can shove it.

In fact, the whole universe can shove it unless it gets its arse in gear pretty fucking sharpish. WHERE IS MY PERIOD. WHERE. (yes, having now gone past seven weeks since the bleeding stopped, this is No Longer Amusing.)

Cherry I am so sorry. Life sucks so hard sometimes. Can you not call in sick? If you don't have the best reason for a day spent wailing in bed, I don't know what would it be.

I am in the TWW and and it would have been my mum's birthday next week (always a big family occasion) so I am crying on a daily basis. I am doing the Circle + Bloom meditations and it's really helping me 'unbottle my feelings' but wasn't quite expecting the bouts of hysterical crying. Ah well.

Vesper WTF. Can they not give you some progesterone so you get your period when you stop taking it? Someone told me they did that to create the 'progesterone drop' that makes your period start.

GAARRHGGHHGH! Cherry Sending you lots of hugs.

Cheers hags
Feeling a bit more human angry and ballsy this evening, which is at least useful and beats apathy and tears.

Erica I have the circle and bloom IVF series too. Apart from her pronunciation of youuuderus I thought they were quite good. Good luck for your tww.

Progesterone drop off would bring on a bleed Vesp but more nasty hormones might not be what your bod needs right now?

vesp my AF went AWOL after my first mc and the consultant gave me provera to bring on a bleed after I'd waited in vain for 9 weeks.

cherry sending strength and dolphins. Just because.

I got a letter from the clinic today. Apparently my blood tests results for clotting were 'outside normal ranges' and I have to go back for another test in 3 months. Could this be the cause of both MCs? DCW reckons this explains everything and means that we take aspirin next time (if we get duffed with the iui again) and all will be good.

Repeat mc clinic appointment is in just over two weeks so I've got to wait until then to ask, and to find out whether anything else was 'outside normal ranges'.

Hi Barking

Maybe I am biased because I felt so weird about my 'all is normall' diagnostic but for what I have heard (from my gyno, from my sister's friend, that kept miscarrying until she was put on aspirin etc), blood clotting issues are fairly treatable, it could be the case that they have found the cause of your mcs and now they can put you on aspirin/heparin injections to sort it out?

You must be literally dying of impatience to find out more but I think you can be quietly optimistic that things are moving forward?

Good luck!

I am having a mental meltdown after realising that it's been 6 months since my laparoscopy, 4.5 months since my mc and 3.5 months since my second D&C - could the endo be back by now? I am heartbroken thinking I had that one chance at super fertility period after the lap, and it was 'wasted' on the mc and now I am back to square one.

I was having 3 am worries this morning and wondering 'would my gyno let me have another lap if I ask for it very nicely..??'

Fish slaps needed, please.

Erica - I know nothing about laps etc so I'm just passing by to give fish slaps.

We are gonna be ok Hags, things have got to pick up soon!

Thanks Blue! Well, it's a minor surgery and you do have to be put under and it's meant to be to check if you have endo/remove it. Not to be used as a 'I got pregnant after a lap last time' good luck charm, apparently. Bummer. :)

Removing endo is meant to improve your chances of conceiving for around 9 months after surgery but obviously the earlier you get preggers the better (NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!! )

We will be ok!! :) Fishies to everyone!

Afternoon hags. Cheers for the missing period suggestions - I'm going to give it another week or so then get in touch with the docs again. Don't really want to pummel myself with hormones if I don't have to, but I'm starting to get paranoid that something's stuck up there (NOT like that.)

cherry feel the rage, you're definitely allowed. Go and pummel a cushion. Or a passer by. Thinking of you.

barking FX for some answers! If it's a clotting issue they are apparently fairly fixable.

I know nothing about laps, meditation, or, erm, anything, apparently. Fish slaps for them as wants 'em.

Sounds hopeful that they've found something to treat Barking. I have clotting issues because of anticardiolipin antibodies, I took Aspirin through treatment and then Clexane injections after transfer. not that it fucking helped but I'm sure that wasn't the issue

Just got back from clinic and confirmation of BFN. Sigh. Right, time to pull myself together, look lively and get back to work.

I know nothing of laps either, sorry!

Fish to all. I'm with Blue, something somewhere has to be looking up for us soon.

There's so much bad luck going round. A lovely, lovely friend of mine has just had a horrible hospital test experience that basically listed in her results everything that might stop you getting pg. She thought she just had a blocked tube but the other one's leaky, she's got fibroids, endometriosis, a small ovary, an enlarged womb... the list just went on .

We need someone to drag us all into some good luck! Who's next to have anything happening that might help?! We don't even see the consultant at the fc until December (earliest appointment I could get after we've been back to the rmc in 2 weeks - glad I didn't wait until after then to call!), so nothing happening here until Jan/Feb depending on the timing of my first 2015 AF. Which will signal 3 years of trying. How utterly depressing.

Anyway, we're looking for the positives here!! .

Errrrrrrm .... I've found a new brand of gin ... That's a positive, right??
(Sorry that's all I've got)

Welcome to the gin palais! Let's get this party started!

Any idea when to expect droid? I had my last drucks on Monday morning, 2days ago.

My mother always said if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all. Well, I tried, but all I've got in me is another rant. So...

chez no idea about droid, all them 'ormones messes wiv the system dunnit? Hope you're holding up ok.

Ah go on Barking, you know you want to. We don't mind, it's family innit. No need to stand on ceremony round here. Ger it off you chest I say.

One day at a time for me, ups and downs for sure but trying to get that PMA to stick back in the window most of the time. Accepting it and being OK with it is work in progress. We're starting to gather options to get a plan together. Droid feels imminent, just need to get some HRT lined up and we're back on the road.

Ah Cherry, you are one strong hag. All my PMA is challenged for you to have right now.

I reckon I might be doing ok again, a new pregnancy announcement at work - an "accident" whilst she was on the contraceptive implant. ON THE IMPLANT! Seriously now??? I'm pretty sure that's the universe taking the piss, right? And yet, I still managed to not cry and actually not be insanely jealous, and to think the universe might actually be a little amusing there. Go me, I'm growing (or some inane bullshit like that..)

Today was certainly a challenge... Lovely heavy crampy droid arrived as threatened, in a morning full of meetings. Freshly laid work colleague paraded the office this avo with 5 day old sprog. I hear your pain Blue. It's not that I don't want to be happy for them, it's just a bitter pill.