New balls please! The BESH are hanging out the cunt bunting for Wombledon and saddling up for the Tour de France!

[FizzyFeet]

Rules of entry: must be ttc #1 for over a year, be suitably evil and hag-like, and submit your BESHtionnaire for our approval. If you are a baby duster or a hun, this ain't the thread for you.

Thanks for the welcome guys. Well I suppose there's not much else to do than make the most of the break and greet the start of the weekend with a large gin...

'Allo 'allo!

Barking Barcelona is gorgeous and the weather is amazing right now. However, we did have a couple of storms last week. They only last a couple of hours, so they don't disturb any outdoors-ey plans too much. That said, my outdoors-ey plans consist mainly on walking around the city and going to the beach.

I've had exactly the same thoughts re exercising while TTC. The thing is, exercising really de-stresses me. These days I do more power yoga and walking and less spinning and mental circuit classes but I am starting to doubt it has any real impact. I can't see how sitting on the sofa, biting your nails and reading everything that has ever been written about TTC on the internet is 'more relaxing' than going for a long walk or swim. That said, I have never done any extreme sports, so not sure about those.

Cherry Gaaaaaaahhhhh! Feel very pissed off on your behalf. Glad you are feeling better now though. Whatevs! You got your donor, exciting times ahead!!

Thanks everyone for you kind words about my TTC break! It does feel empowering! I am pretty sure that I am not emotionally fit to embark on TTC menkul yet and as someone said...what's a couple of months, considering it's going to be 3 years since we first started?

Welcome Vic!

Cava for everyone!!!

hate when our thread falls off the first page, it's makes me all competitive.

Erica - yay for Barcelona! And thanks so much for the ovulation/piss sticks info, that really helped. I've decided to try the ovacue I think. I really really really hate waking up then having to try not to pee so I don't have to hang around in the bathroom waiting for that idiotic smiley face (I realise it's happy I've ovulated but it just looks like it's happy I pissed on it) when I want to be asleep. Appearently the ovacue takes salvia (and sometimes. 'Vagjnal') readings. It's expensive but if I have to poa another motherfuckings I'm going to go mental (in the violent rather than nicely insane way) Rain while I would dearly love to just shag and have no monitoring ttc has completely destroyed our sex life, it's just in a real mess and while the ttc break got things back on track, starting again has sent us completely backward (we managed 1x this month and only because I decided I wasn't ovulating which made us both actually want to)

Cherry - gah! For stupid medical professionals who give no thought to the fact that this is actually your life and not just a training environment. I admire your zen though

Fab, happy birthday for this week, much wine (and gin) drinking to you

Welcome vix - I lurked for ages before joining too

All this sunshine is obviously keeping us all occupied outdoors and away from MN! How very dare we allow the BESH to lose our número uno footing!

Welcome vix - I concur with the others, you're in! Although I have to question your choice of bloody insta differ Johanssen as your lez crush. . As for Bowie, for the most part no but if we're talking Labyrinth era then definitely YES. I realise this possibly makes me a bit odd.
There's an awful lot of waiting involved in unexplained infertility, it's just a matter of waiting the proscribed amount of time before anyone will do anything. Tres annoying!

chezza outraged on your behalf, what a fucking shitshow. I'm a bit like you in not being able to react as I'd like to imagine I would in stressful/emotional situations like that. I wish one of us could have been with you to give those numpties the ear bashing they deserve.

erica where else will your grand tour take you? Quite envious of your jet setting!

fab got anything nice other than the wine obvs planned for your birthday?

blue I hear ya on the sex life ishoos. We had a similar spell around 18 months in. Didn't do anything particular to fix it - I got diffed, had the MC so a 3 month or so 'break' and then things were sort of just back to normal. Hoping we don't hit the same this go round. So much pressure involved! I did do an Anne Summers shop a few months back actually - not sure if that's going to help long term but it has at least made sex more about fun than baybee-making, at least some of the time anyway.

Hope everyone's having a good weekend. Barking have you climbed any more mountains?

Oh god, not that my sex life is a) of any interest to any of you or b) something to censor but in case anyone's now thinking I'm in to latex, ball gags and strap ons, I should clarify that the AS stuff was pretty tame!

Blue & Rain - thanks for sharing sexy times issues! I was starting to think we were the only ones! Our sex life started to go downhill around 18 months in (so nearly 18 months ago) and even though we've had periods when it seemed that things were improving, it has never really been the same. Rain You may be onto something by taking a trip to Ann Summers. A bit of filth and fun to get us out of the TTC depressing routine!

Blue I laughed at 'it just looks like it's happy I pissed on it'!

Heading back to Africa next week. Had the best time and it's made us decide we want to move back to Europe again within 1-2 years. On the other hand, I am really looking forward going back, sleeping on my own bed, seeing my cats etc and hanging out with child-free friends

Ha, Rain - this is not the place to be shy :-)

Maybe latex and ball gags are the way forward ??

Erica - yeah, I've been thinking it was just me too so thanks for joining me in the misery that is ttc sex

Nothing ventured nothing gained....

Fanks hags, having a few days away and nearly forgotten the whole sorry affair. I'll sort myself out then right? Damn right. Gin anyone? Cheers Vix Happy burfday Fab.

I did climb mountains big hills today Rain too bloody tired for the sechsing now though. Well impressed with your adventurousness and you Erica. Our last couple of years of woes have put a bit of a kibosh on the between the sheets activity. Must try harder...

Hags, AF arrived today, bang on 27 days after the second D&C.

I am not 100% sure I am ready to get back on the TTC horse but it's nice that Body is for once doing what she's meant to be doing and on time too! (did you hear that, Body?? It's called positive encouragement!).

Hope everyone is having a good Monday, climbing some more mountains and/or shopping at Anne Summers!

Lazy posting by the pool in the campsite as the sun is making things difficult, so apologies for not knowing who I'm replying to!

Exercise - I was essentially told by my first acupuncturist that if I wasn't prepared to stop running I clearly didn't want to get pg that badly. I cried and never went back, fell running is my stress release and I didn't see how being more stressed and less fit would help ttc. Anyhoo, an injury in a race back in January sorted that dilemma out as I haven't been able to run since.... My extensive googling and reading woo books has told me that swimming, cycling and walking are good, high intensity/high impact is bad.I don't think their 'cycling' was beasting yourself up big hills though. When I start TTC again I'll continue on the bike but just not push myself.

On the sex life thing - we got into a rut where I wouldn't be so interested after shag week as I was exhausted and we didn't 'have' to, leaving DCW feeling like I only wanted him for his swimmers, so we had to make sure we were making time for 'us' not just spending all our energy on project get pg.

Erica I'm in sunny Spain now! Weather in France wasn't so good so we drive south and it's lovely here . Not been up any mountains rain but I did a great 65km ride yesterday, walked the dog round the lake today and plan to cycle to the coast on Wednesday .

No WiFi in the tent here so not online so much!

You know, really I'm sure there is a good reason for these recommendations but fuck people who tell you not to run! Man how I wish I coped with stress like that rather that eating ...

Still it's really shitty that people can be so firm on what you can and can't do. What about all those bloody running/drunk/fat/stressed instadiffers? Bastards.

By the way ... I have PMT. Can you tell???

Oh and to Erica's Body "well done darlin, good on you - have some gin" (bodies like gin too right?)

Blue Absolutely yes to gin! I've decided this Body needs some positive encouragement and a reward system and she's getting it!!

Barking I can't believe someone told you 'if you are not willing to give up running, you don't want a baby badly enough'. One thing is to make gentle suggestions, another one to to make you feel bad for having a fucking healthy habit. I am so fed up with this bullshit. RAGE!

It's nice when our bodies behave Erica, must be a mahoosive relief to feel ready to go when the mood takes you.

Barking I'm another that doesn't hold with the no exercise TTC thing. I'll be having some time off over the IVF to keep stress levels down but you sure as hell won't find me on the sofa or worse still in bed for three weeks like some people seem to and the FC hinted I might want to try don't get me wrong, I won't be running any marathons but going stir crazy and feeling like a massive lardy arse doesn't seem like the healthiest way forward to me.

All my yoga and woo energy stuff says moving and stretching is a good thing to keep meridians flowing and chakras balanced so I'm intending a zen walking, yoga and meditation fest I think with plenty of woo needles and healthy eating thrown in for our bash. Not to mention a healthy dose of BESH positive vibes from you brilliant hags.

Totally forget to tell you one of the points my woo needles lady treated the other day was the 'infant gate' to aid conception which I thought was pretty lovely.

Well jel of all you hags in gorgeous Spain. Cheers on the gin front though, that I can join you in.

We are sitting in candlelight to commemorate the First World War. MN maybe not totally in the spirit but needs must!

Infant gate, hey - fingers crossed it's opened it up :-)

Hello Hags! Well here I am, busy learning my new age - I turned 42 on Tuesday - how the hell did that happen?? I'm only 32 surely? TWH outdid himself in the thought and effort he went to creating one of the best birthdays I've ever had . It culminated in going to the Lecture Rooms at Sketch (London innit) which was truly wonderful - I just couldn't fault it - what a lucky hag I am

I also had my gynae appointment this morning so am now on the list to have an exploratory laparoscopy in the next 8-12 weeks. In my infinite wisdom I told them that I'd had chest pain in the last year so now I've got to have an ECG before the op - it's best to be safe than sorry but it is still a pain in the arse. Hey ho. I'm feeling positive about it though - I'm actually doing something rather than hanging about. And you never know, it might help with a surprise instadiff after the op?? Ever hopeful

Hope all is good with you gorgeous women and you're enjoying the weather?

Euro, how are you doing? How are the crazy hormones treating you?

Holy crap - I killed the Fred

No no, not killed, just had limited MN time this week bloody job getting in the way

fab you have been really spoilt (which is obviously well deserved) - sounds like TWH did a sterling job! Am quite envious!
Will be flinging halibuts if hope at you for a post lap ironidiff - is an ECG just being hooked up with those sticky nipple pasty things?

chezza here's hoping your woo lady has left the infant gate wide open for lots of barbers to escape through. Will have to ask my needle woman about that!

I'm in a happy place at the mo - over the next 6 weeks I will only be at work for 2.5 of them as we've got TWO amazing and unbaby friendly holidays (in your FACE people with kids!). Am considering not bothering ttc next cycle (droid due on about weds) so I can make the absolute most of Mauritius guilt free. Haven't had to use contraceptives for so long, not sure I remember how to use them!

Hope everyone is good this weekend

Rain Mauritius!!!! Lucky you, I've never been but heard amazing things...

Fab Hello there! I got pg straight after my laparoscopy and I believe Fankle did too, as well as another lady I know through MN. My gyno in the UK said that it's not rare at all so everything crossed for you!

Cherry I am also all over the zen walking, yoga and meditation. I do sometimes worry that I could be putting too much effort on the more complicated postures, or walking too fast, which could (mainly in my paranoia infested world) be counterproductive for TTC/implantation etc... Please tell me to get a grip! What do you think?

Last night in Europe for me hags. Back to crazy Africa tomorrow. I am not particularly looking forward to starting RMC testing etc but at least I feel positive and energised. I have had a chat with myself and decided I won't let TTC take over my life anymore! (HA! See how long this lasts...Worth a try though!).

Hope everyone is having a lufly week end!

Can I have a really lame moan? The husband and I are flying home separately for a number of boring reasons. He was meant to arrive in the early hours of Sunday so would be there when I get home around midday. Turns out his flight has been
cancelled and he'll get in on Monday instead. Just a annoying contretemps but really not looking forward to arriving and hanging around the house, that's been empty for over a month, all by myself.

I will go and get myself a grip at the duty free now...

And some gin! Never forget the gin! Then when you get home, drink it all and forget about the boring mundanities of sorting out the house till Mr Erica gets back (does he have a nickname btw?)

That was the sound of me landing back in reality. Back home, lovely holiday, but feeling a little less positive now I'm back among the bumps and babies.

Still, got an appointment with the rmc. 17th September, so earlier than I thought. Not with our consultant though, which we were told it would be (he does the fertility clinic, the assisted conception unit and the mc clinic).
Not too long to wait until we start moving again, although it shouldn't make much difference to the chances of IUI before Christmas.

I had the most enormous g&t on holiday, they didn't do 'measures'. Will see if I can upload a photo!

Will catch up properly when I'm a little more awake.

Hello Hags
Happy birthday Fab - the boy did good, lucky you! And here's to a successful lap followed by ironidiff (I got pg on my 3rd cycle after my lap)

Welcome home to barking and erica and happy holidays to Rain - you lucky bugger!! What's a month off ttc in the grand scheme of things.... Enjoy it! Chezza never heard of infant gate but hope it does the trick.

I've been hanging out with my mum and the in laws in Edinburgh, catching a couple of shows at the festival, seeing friends and getting sunburnt on the beach whilst building sandcastles with niece and nephew. So nice to be by the coast again. I live in the middle of the bloody country so a trip to the beach means a looong day driving. Don't get me wrong, the hills and countryside of Yorkshire are gorgeous and I miss London less and less these days, but it would be nice to live a bit closer to the sea. Roll on holiday to Crete in a few weeks...

By the way, am massively farty ATM. No one ever tells you about those pregnancy symptoms. I actually woke myself and MG up with a loud one this morning. < burps to emphasise gassiness>

Fankle Edinburgh and Crete! Lucky you! Laughing at alarm-clock style farts!

Raindrops Let's call him Mr Erica please!

Barking Welcome home too. I do also miss the non-measured European G&Ts -sigh- bloody lovely they are!

I have an appointment with my gyno on Friday afternoon to discuss RMC testing, my second D&C etc. Barking still ok to pm you about this?

Hope everyone is having a good Monday so far. I am planning to go do lots of hardcore spinning and sweaty yoga and prosecco-drinking-with-the-girls this week in order to be at my BESHest, kickass-est shape for my appointment on Friday!