The Berries: On knockerwatch, sniffing willies and clinging to the coat tails of the continued clusterdiff (thread 21)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

Bushy yes agreed. Mine are more like early AF pains, though interestingly, I normally get AF cramps in my back due to weirdo cervix whereas these are definitely uterine.

Anyhow, over analysing it will not help!

How is everyone else tonight?

Hey everyone, hope you've all had a lovely day!

christening was fun, had to be a stand in godmother as the actual one was late and so we both were in the end. Am not religious but was happy to do it. Weirdly felt tearful at a couple of points during the church service for no real reason. Nobody quizzed me about kids, which was a relief as with af due in two days I'm feeling typically sensitive.

Nervous about the laparoscopy tomorrow. Not good with scenarios where I have to relinquish control or hand around endlessly. Also not good with ga, tend to feel sick and weepy afterwards.

Watching born in the wild - an elephant has just given birth.

*hang around. Ffs typos!

Is it wrong that I'm watching Mandela and he is now onto his second wife and about to go into hiding, shortly after marrying Winnie, it then pans to her stomach and she is pregnant. My first wry thought was instadiffer!!!

Tiger, glad christening went ok. Good luck for the laparoscopy tomorrow. Hope the emotional effects of GA won't be too bad this time. Otherwise, there are plenty of people here holding your hand.

Happy, good news that your 'spring palace of the child', as Gill calls it, is looking healthy. at you DHTB's SA. Can they do anything about the antibody-induced clumping?

Afm, festival and weather were great, rain started right on cue on the Severn Bridge when we were passing into Wales. Typical.

Hope this week full of scans brings some more reassurance to you lovely diffed ladies. x

Mooning all.

tiger yep! shift work is just grand. Glad to hear the christening went well.

I did wonder at the exercise thing also. Maybe it's to stop any potential harm? My plan is to not leave my bed. Given how much money this is costing me I'm going way over the top! Plus if I went for a bike ride and something happened I'd feel even more guilty.

How much time dud you take off work during the process? I can't just take an hour or two off. I need to call in sick for the entire shift.

Tiger I know exactly how you feel as hatehatehate hospitalisation! But this is one more step to your own baby. You will totally handle it.

I know what you mean about dreading stuff in advance, though, I really do. Just think in xx hours it will be over and you will just be handling the feelings that come after, not the anticipation which is the worst.

Bushy when I was really convinced things were going wrong yesterday I cried at a picture of Kate Middleton because she was already safely through her pg

Tiger good luck for the lap tomorrow, focus on the thought that you could well be diffed soon glad the christening went well too.

RP hope things have settled down now and you are feeling a bit less worried. Same to you Bushy, not long til the scan.

Mrs Feather if you are reading, I hope you had an amazing day and are enjoying honeymoon time, also hope your managing to relax and not worry too much.

Barking how are you feeling?

Rosie glad you had a nice time at the festival, shame about the rain but typical!

Who's next to poas then?! I don't know where I am in my cycle cause of the random af's so am taking this one out and just shagging for fun bizarre then I can see where I am next cycle before starting iui.

Hope everyone has had a lovely weekend.

Good luck with the lap tomorrow Tiger hope you don't feel too bad after the GA

Morning all. Good luck for today Tiger. Hope all goes well

Rosie glad you enjoyed the festival. The weather was lovely here most of yesterday. We walked about 6 miles of the Taff Trail and it was glorious. The heavens opened just after we got in around 4pm and it was full on storm weather! The only real solution for the clumpy sperm is ICSI. Not sure what'll happen now that there wasn't any clumping but there are antibodies. Tbh I'd be happier if they still went with ICSI if there's a chance that the sperm still might clump. Guess its good news though that they are swimming freely at the moment. Still 3-4 more attempts at getting diffed naturally and saving ourselves a fortune. FX eh?

Have a great day all. Catch up with you later.

Hello all! Sorry not to catch up on the thread properly, but rp, hope you're ok, you too rosie and tiger, good luck with today's lap.

Thanks for all your lovely wedding wishes! We had the best day of our lives! I want to do it again! Trying not to freak about the scan on Friday now so just relaxing over the next few days by the seaside.

tiger good luck!!!

Good luck tiger! If ga makes you weepy just have a good old bawl and a mope.

feather delighted your day went so well. You must be wiped out now, getting married can really take it out of you. Good luck for Friday.

Feather, great to hear you had an amazing day. Enjoy the seaside.

Tiger, even though I said it before, good luck. This might be your ticket to a post-op diff

Happy, yes, good news they are swimming freely. Is that due to vits, do you think?

Beaky, I caved took one for the team and had my POAS moment. BFN of course. Period Tracker has me on 14dpo although they assume short cycles of 24 days. Anyway, the POAS really wasn't necessary given that it would be a small miracle for us to fall pg naturally. DP just shrugged and said we didn't expect anything else anyway.

So, I think I'll do a meditation before I start work properly, just so to clear my mind. Best get going then.

Have a good week with lots of positive thoughts, peace of mind and good news. x

Yay so pleased you had a lovely wedding day feather, it's such a special time. Enjoy your days together, there's nothing like that freshly married feeling when saying 'my husband' or 'my wife' is really thrilling!! Here's hoping you have some nice weather too. If it's not revealing too much,whereabouts are you honeymooning? I think we'll have to have a scaled back holiday this year so a uk seaside hol might be just the thing.

Good luck tiger. Hope it all goes well and that mr tiger is ready to be at your beck and call.

Sorry it was a bfn rosie. I like your style meditating before work. Am marking children's writing today, some of the stuff that comes out of their imaginations is hilarious!! So far I've had a child meet a rock monster and then turn into a hot dog!! Yes, really!!

Get on the jiggedy bus happy, here's hoping you won't have to spend the money on icsi/ Ivf.

Hi all, sorry it has been a while since I checked in with everyone, the DR drugs put me in a bad mood the past few days.

Feather so glad your wedding went well, hope you and MrF and your sticky bean have a great time at the seaside. I grew up by the seaside, am envious of you being able to have fish & chips down by the sea and enjoying a 99, just remembered you are not meant to have Mr Whippy style ice cream - have a cider lolly for me then!

Bushy hope this week goes by quickly for you and that the scan is all good on Friday, waiting for good news from you. Great stories from your kids, little ones imaginations are fascinating.

RP hope your spotting and cramping has gone. I have been crying at all sorts due to the drugs I have been on, hormones are all over the place, if this IVF works I think I will be used to the effects of pg hormones. What is the GP appointment for on Thurs and do you have any scans booking in?

Chloe I have stayed away from exercise except walking since starting long protocol, know what you mean about feeling like a chubster but you should be ok to get back to doing something now you are waiting for FET. Where are you going in 2 weeks to need a bikini? Somewhere lovely and hot? You are in Germany yes? Do you have an agreed month for FET yet?

Tiger best of luck today with your lap. I know what you mean about GA, the last one I had I was allergic to which made me ill, then they also found out I was allergic to penicillin - am sure yours will all go ok and fx you will be diffed before you know it! Glad the christening went well and that you didn't get the usual baby interrogation.

Beaky what is 'shagging for fun'? Don't think we have done that for a very long time. So are you waiting for AF so you can get an IUI cycle started? Will it be in June then?

Happy sounds like you had a lovely weekend. Here's hoping for a FUFC diffing before you get to ICSI. I was very impressed with the turnaround of your tests in the private FC. Hope all your wedding plans are going well?

Rosie sorry you had a bfn, hope your meditation helped. PS Having grown up in Wales it does not always rain when you go over the bridge!

Serenity I have told my work I will be off sick between EC and ET as I can sign myself off sick for 7 days and I assume that week is going to be a bit up in the air as it depends on how I respond to the stimming, and then how the embryos are growing. I also work an hours commute from my house by train and I don't fancy doing that. My DH has taken hols so we will get to spend some quality time together. For appointments I have just made up the time later that day, if you are on shifts can you get them moved? Starting early or late? That is what my DH has been doing as he also works shifts.

Win,Batking when do you have scans? Hope all is good with you both.

Lady, Otters, Pip, Boodle, HB, Nolly, Rain, Because, Gill, Funky, Wildflower* hope all ok with you ladies?

AFM I had my scan this morning which confirmed that I am now down regulated, my uterus lining was only 3.3mm and my ovaries were 'quiet', so my sniffing has been halved and I start stimming on Weds evening. The nurse taught me how to do the injections, I think I am going to be ok with them I hate needles as the outcome makes it worthwhile. No more scans until a week Friday, when they will decide when EC will be. Suddenly all very real as the last 3 weeks of sniffing started off exciting but then just dragged.

Hope everyone has a great week and sorry for the long post!

Thanks all!

bushy we're in Broadstairs, Margate and Ramsgate over the next few days. Plan to do a bit of walking as we are car-leads and I keep reading that you shouldn't cycle in early pregnancy? Also, Margate has the most amazing Vintage shops in the country and I love old stuff so much!

lumen cider lolly?

No booze in cider lollies feather, they are just non sweet apple ice lollies, they were my favourite as a kid. Enjoy your time away

Can anyone tell me why you're not meant to have a Mr Whippy? Also feather what's this about not cycling in early pg? I cycled when we went camping twice, 8miles one day and then pootled to the shop yesterday on my bike...

lumen sorry you've been feeling less than cheerful but apparently that's a good sign as it shows the drugs are working, puts you in a menopausal state so you will be like the seven dwarves of menopause which someone put on here before.

Ha ha bushy that was me who posted the dwarves.

The Mr Whippy ban is because you do not know when or how often the machine is cleaned and the bacteria is dangerous. Not sure on cycling?

tiger glad the christening was better than expected. Hope the op is going ok.

feather so glad your big day was amazing

rosie sorry the witch got you.

lumen I found the needles difficult, not as straight forward as I'd been led to believe but given my experience with acupuncture I think that's something weird to do with my skin?! However I got used to the process very quickly and although never pleasant, it wasn't really a problem.

beaky enjoy the shagging for fun - I won't let DH anywhere near me, poor man. I wouldn't forgive myself if we dtd then I started bleeding.

I've been trying to stay away from this thread because I don't want to come on here and be insensitive by continuing to whinge after getting a bfp, but I've barely lasted 48 hours

After advice from the acupuncturist, DH and the fb berries I called in sick today. Slept all morning then moved to the sofa with a slanket. Turned on the end of This Morning only to see Holly W sitting on the sofa looking very fat - is she popping out another? [jealous].

bushy I love my but cycling is on the no no list because of the risk of falling. I would usually commute to work and back every day on my bike, cycle to appointments etc, and at the weekend or evenings I'd be cycling anywhere between 20-50 miles on my road bike or out on my mountain bike. I've not been on a bike at all since the trigger shot, just can't risk it. I've been knocked off my bike by a van before through no fault of mine (accident fortunately witnessed by a policemam ), so I'm very aware it's not a risk I can control. Gentle mountain biking on easy terrain might be a much lower risk, but all the juddering over an uneven surface is scaring me off when I don't know yet if anything is in there or whether it's burrowing in ok.

Basically, the mc last year plus knowing I have very few chances left to get pg (total 3) has made me ridiculously over cautious. I agree with lumen that pg women do plenty of stuff all the time that I'm scared of just in case but I can't face doing anything that might mean I turn round later and think 'what if I hadn't done that?' I've barely coped since the mc last September, and having got through the edd I've still got two difficult to forget dates to get through - the anniversary of the bfp (the day after we got engaged) and then the anniversary of the mc (same day as our mate's twins were born) to get through. Being pg would make both dates far more bearable, so I'm doubly desperate for a positive outcome. I've got another 10 days to wait for the scan, which at 6w+3 might be too early for a heartbeat anyway so won't necessarily give any reassurance at all, and I lost the last one at 7w+4 so even a heartbeat might not help the crazy. Meanwhile, DH's mate from school (not someone he's close to), a complete waster who smokes and drinks heavily and only moved out from living with his mother when he moved in with his gf, has just announced on fb they're pg. Bloody marvellous .

Aaaannnnnd breathe.

Big hugs batking enjoy your sicky and I am so hoping this one works for you xxx

barking well done you for taking it easy (and to everyone who told you to). On the sofa with a slanket sounds ideal - although is it just me or is there something intrinsically funny about the word slanket? To me it's as if any sentence with that word in it would just be automatically slightly comedic.

I, for one, do not think you are being in any way insensitive by discussing your concerns on here after your BFP. This is a very worrying time for you and that's what this thread is for, surely.

You have every right to be as cautious as you jolly well please. Do what ever you need to do to help you through this time, it's very stressful for goodness sake.

If you don't mind me asking, why would you only have three more chances to get pg? I don't know your history properly and I was wondering what your situation is. It's irrelevant anyway because this one is going to go fine for you.

Thanks lumen.
wildflower I've been ttc 2.5 years, clomid worked once (briefly) but the following 5 rounds didn't and I was advised not to try any more. This was round 1 of IUI and I didn't cope brilliantly with the emotional side of things. If this doesn't work we potentially have two more IUI attempts and 1 round of IVF.