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Going Clucking mental? Old birds gather round.....

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 13/05/2014 10:54

A thread for the older ttc'er. Join us in the chicken coop for support, advice or just somewhere to rant.

Here's the old thread for those wanting to do serious lurking:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1978730-Old-birds-wanna-join-the-coop?msgid=47008448#47008448

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 13/08/2014 16:43

POAS inshock!!! Do it! Do it! Do it!

annie I think you did the right thing showing restraint despite the all so tempting promising signs!

farfall hello!

Nice to see regular posters reappearing Smile

Oh & inshock, .....POAS!!!!!

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 13/08/2014 16:48

Incidentally, has the way mumsnet displayed changed for anyone using iPhone? Mine has & it's rubbish, checked settings & they look ok?

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Tilly73 · 13/08/2014 17:03

Hi everyone..sorry I've been AWOL but I have been lurking
Trying not to stress about ttc (easier said than done)
Good to hear some of you are starting your IVF journey and having good results from your tests!
I started AF the first day of my holiday and exactly 28 days later so at least my cycle is back to normal!
Am using my cbfm again now so let's see if I ovulate this month!!

Tilly73 · 13/08/2014 17:04

Oh and inshock poas!!!!

AnnieHoo · 13/08/2014 21:15

Oh Tilly this is looking good Grin..

Farfalla great news about the super-spunk!!!

I'm not a raging sexpot tonight. Just settling down on sofa to watch One Born with a cuppa tea and a ginger nut BrewBiscuit.

AnnieHoo · 13/08/2014 21:19

Oops, getting my fellow '73 girls mixed up!! Wink

I mean it's looking good for inshock

Tilly good luck for this month with CBFMSmile!

Dontgotosleep · 13/08/2014 23:41

Just finished DTD. Poor D.P is fast asleep. I must have tired him out!. Wont see him now till Fri. Will be lots of dtd then as fronm tomorrow. I am fertile.
Come on inshock POAS. I hope to come this thread tomorrow and read some brilliant news. x

Inshock73 · 14/08/2014 10:14

Quickly popping on whilst boss is looking the other way :)

8 days now!! Still refusing to poas - ignorance is bliss! :)

Still need to catch up on all the news over the last few weeks on here.

Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 17:07

, good luck inshock

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 17:17

How's everyone else doing?

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Dontgotosleep · 14/08/2014 19:21

Aww inshock. I was hoping to read some good news. I don't know how you can wait so long and be so patient. Mind you, it could be the fear of getting a negative result.
x

stubbornstains · 14/08/2014 19:56

GL Tilly!

Awww...perfect moment wasted annie! Maybe it means you're on a run of nice strong cycles again though...? It's funny, does anyone else have a day/ a few hours of extreme horniness whilst in the fertile window? I don't use OPKs, but have a strong suspicion that that could be the decisive moment, fertility-wise?

Of inshock I will not speak....la la la!

Oh dear, I went to the doctor's this morning to hear the results of my last Day 21 progesterone test. It was 23.9, which is not great Sad. I've been temping, and my charts seem to show I've clearly ovulated....but, progesterone's not high enough.

I saw a different GP this time, as my regular one is on holiday- this one cracked me up, he says he leaves "women's stuff" to the other GP, as she's a woman, and he's pretty ignorant about it! Shock. Well, at least he's honest! (he is a great GP in general though, I've seen him many a time over the years). One thing he did do was refer me for an ultrasound though, so that's all good.

The, er, "lady expert" GP will give me a ring on Monday, when she's back off her hols, but I don't know what she'll say. Referral to a fertility clinic? Progesterone? Clomid? Googling suggests possibly Clomid- "to support the whole cycle".

I feel really scared and freaked out. It looks like there IS a problem. I know I should be positive- when a problem is identified, that means it can be treated- but I've always known myself to be an extremely fertile person who gets pregnant at the drop of a hat, for 20 years. Suddenly, that's not me any more. Coinciding with the moment I actually meet someone who wants to have kids with me- for the first time Sad. I've also been experiencing a flushed, burning face over the last week or 2- could this be hot flushes? So many new words to describe the person I'm turning into- "perimenopausal", "secondary infertility" (yes, that's what the GP wrote on my ultrasound referral Sad).

Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 20:30

Hi stubborn don't panic! Your gp sounds like a dick tbh. When on clomid I was told anything over 20 shows ovulation. Been symptom spotting & reading through old threads, there's 1 all about 21 prog levels. Makes very interesting reading, seems drs vary wildly in what is a healthy prog levels. Many say over 16 is fine. My 21 levels were 28 & 29 & I got preg (sadly not for long) on clomid.

Also when was the test? Should it not be 7 days before AF? They all seem to forget we don't all have perfect 28 day cycles with 14 day lp!

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stubbornstains · 14/08/2014 20:43

Aw no, I feel I must defend the GP here.....he did say "Better I'm honest about my ignorance and get the doctor who does know to give you a ring." Which I'm fine with. Plus, he did come round within 10 minutes of being called to see my mum when she was taken ill a couple of years ago (heart attack symptoms, but luckily not, thank goodness!).

I actually booked my test myself for 7DPO , going by my temps! So I think it was accurate...Sad.

I think I ovulated, but there's a lot of talk on the TCOYF site of low prog possibly meaning "weak ovulation" (sounds remarkably unscientific Hmm), and below 30 not being enough to sustain a pregnancy.

Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 20:56

Hmmm, there's so much conflicting info out there. I still use prog cream after ov as sure it helped me get my fleeting bfp & has def helped with lp & spotting.

Can I pick your brains stubborn? Achey but not painful ovaries, not ovulating, any ideas? Also AF on sat, only 1 day of bleeding then pretty much nothing. You are wise in the ways of all things fertility!

Try not too worry, if it is low/weak ov clomid will help. I loved that it gave me such regular cycles. Very useful for planning dtd esp if partner not always about.

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stubbornstains · 14/08/2014 21:09

Blimey, I've been promoted to guru-hood! How did that ever happen?!!

Hmmm....well my ovaries are right lil blighters- they can easily ache for a whole week leading up to ovulation, and always have. I take it yours are normally quite well behaved? Thing is, I guess you must be having loadsa cycle changes what with coming off Clomid/ onto weirdy Prolactin drug? Maybe you are gearing up to ovulate?

This, er, one day AF, though- was it heavy? It was definitely, definitely a proper period, was it? (cough)

Gosh, Clomid sounds so......serious, though. Eek! Is it true you can only take it for 6 months?

Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 21:41

annie fankle & I were all on it when we got our bfp's so it does work. First month my ovaries were so sore, causes hot flushes but other than that (for me) it was okay. It boosts or starts ov depending on your circumstances. Some areas will monitor you with scans, I didn't have any. Yes, only 6 months at a time as it thins the womb lining, then they can try other drugs or put you back on it after a break.

I wish I was still on it (have 12 months supply in a drawer!) as it worked for me. It's nothing to worry about. There's a thread on here we were all on, go lurking. Some people have much worse side affects or need higher doses but it's not scary. Think of it as the anti-pill.

Yes you are a guru! Just peed on opk but nowt so sadly yes a period and no not ovulating. Maybe it was an annovulatory cycle, sighhhhhhh....

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 21:43

It was heavy but not mental heavy. 1 day only then spotting.wish I had the same periods I had when not ttc, nice, predictable healthy periods. Oh the irony!

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 21:45

Also Achey since ovulation right through till now. Not painful, like the beginning of ov pain, weird.

Sorry, hogging thread.

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AnnieHoo · 14/08/2014 22:31

Yes Stubborn I get the horn mid cycle and take this as nature's sign. It's usually the night before ewcm arrives. I have vivid sex dreams and wake up a hot mess. Smile

Your GP may prescribe Clomid. It's not bad for a few months. I felt it woke my ovaries up, I wasn't ovulating every month. I got a BFP after the 3rd round in March (sadly mmc in May). Being on Clomid since then has been hard emotionally. I think it's the oestrogen boost. Maybe there is too much in my system now. I felt strained and tired and there has been sobbing and crying and wailing like a banshee...SadBlush. Feel good being off it now but think it's still working...

Ginger that 1 day period thing - sounds similar to what Kurama is going through over on the Clomid thread. Have you been scanned recently? Would be good to get checked to make sure it's not cyst or something.

inshock it's nearly the weekend Wink!

stubbornstains · 14/08/2014 22:38

Oh, I see. So you can go back after a break....The anti-pill, hmmm? That sounds interesting! It is strange, I was on the pill for 6 months, and gave up almost a year ago. The weirdness of my cycles over the last 6 months or so does look a bit like an extreme version of what they say can happen on stopping the pill- but I was only on it for 6 months, and I've been on it before in the past with no weird side effects. I do wonder if it could have more of an effect on an ageing system?

That does sound strange ginger- when I had my late-ovulation cycle a couple of months ago I had all kinds of spotting and on-and-off ov pains and cramping...maybe you're right and it was anovulatory? But then again, all I've read about cramping and "ovulation" pains suggests that they are the least reliable indicator of anything! (helpful).

Gingerbreadlady1 · 14/08/2014 22:47

It was a late ov cycle with lots of highs on cbfm before peak & 2 days of opk. Led to a 14day lp (a first since monitoring cycle) & I think 39 day cycle. Just a bit throbby, think kurama has proper pain often annie?mine is just throbbing ovaries.

I want vivid sex dreams. Jealous of your hot-mess-ness. Another sigh...... Wish we could meet in the pub!

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FattyFishwife · 14/08/2014 22:57

hi all, im back after a bit of a break....devastated at the arrival of AF mid july I decided to have a break from everything....so i stopped my 'meds' (all my agnus castus, selenium, EPO, dong quai, etc etc) and deliberately didnt log onto any TTC forums, tried my very best not to symptom spot and tried to 'forget' about TTC

well that did a fat lot of good as AF granted me another audience this week, so i though fark it, and am back on the supplements and back here....least I can get some moral supposrt in here when AF comes a calling....again! 10 months and counting......

just gonna go catch up on all the news ive missed in the last month!

Tranquilitybaby · 15/08/2014 05:30

Hello. Still on holiday (home on sunday - boo! I'd like to out here in my happy little bubble tbh). We've started TTC again whilst away and AF is due around Sat-Mon. I don't feel pg, but then I don't particularly feel like AF may arrive soon either. Usually I get uncomfy sore boobs from OV to AF, but nothing so far this n

Tranquilitybaby · 15/08/2014 05:31

Oops pressed send

*month.

I was tempted to test on a Saturday (CD26) but will pr