The Berries: The one where The Berries cease to exist after a spate of waxy knicks and a'hem seepage (thread 20)

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Morning all. What a wet and miserable weekend!
Lady if you're reading I hope you're doing ok. You are in all of our thoughts
I came down with the lurgy yesterday so feeling very sorry for myself. Think I jinxed myself as was only thinking the other day that I hadn't been ill for ages! By the law of sod its shag week at the moment too. Had a massive temp rise this morning but not sure if it's OV or because I'm ill. Hopefully I've already OVd as pretty sure DP won't come anywhere near me at the moment! Have a nice day all x

Morning! Oooh sounds sore barking, perhaps you didn't go far enough in or maybe you have a bit of particularly tough tissue there. Are you alternating the side you're injecting on from am to pm?

Rubbish on getting ill happy. I thought I was coming down with a cold after a massive sneeze and runny nose Friday but perked up. I necked a pint of soluble vit c which seemed to help. Now just have a little bit of a sore throat from shouting down stairs to dh!!

After making the decision to keep all of the Ivf secret, dh got a little drunk at the start of our sniffing and told our 2 good friends. She knows all about my quandary of time off work as the last time I saw her was the week of one of my injection appts. They phoned and texted the other day wanting to pop round so I asked dh what we were going to say. He said nothing, but obv they know we were going to have ec and et etc but he's adamant that we just say we're still having treatment. Also if it's positive that we don't say anything for 12 weeks. I do agree with that but I just think it's going to be awkward not saying anything about our treatment. Maybe I just say dh has decided we're back to being secretive about it but thanks for asking or if I'm on my own with her I could tell her. She's been my RL ttc buddy as it took her 2+ years to have hers and mmcs along the way. Anyway, any thoughts on that one?

Morning all!

In my view you as your DH are the team in this situation bushy, so I wouldn't confide anything in your friend (lovely as she sounds) unless you get DH on board first. Telling them you're going back to secrecy is probably fair for now but I'd be tempted to see if DH would agree to letting them in if you would find that RL support useful.

barking that sounds painful! I'm sure it's fine tho, must have been a tough bit as someone else said (on phone so can't check who!)

Literally no obligations today so am still in bed reading. Might venture out to the shops this afternoon but might in reality will just stay in my jammies!! Don't tell MrP but I secretly enjoy it when he goes away!

Tough one bushy. Perhaps you could just let her know that you are at a key point in your treatment and you'll let her know the outcome, but you don't want to go into details at the moment. Sounds as thought she would understand what you are going through (and the need for keeping quiet) if she has been through a similar experiences.

hb I agree with you entirely - much easier to say how you feel here (and to discuss some pretty intimate details!) than it is in RL. I don't talk to anyone about ttc except my acupuncturist. Some of my friends are aware we are ttc, but they all got pg straight away and are busy with their babies. I don't mention it and neither do they.

Sods law indeed happy, how annoying. Hope you feel better soon!

Sorry to here about the ouchy stabbing barking! I did learn to give injections a long time ago, for an ill family member, but I'm not sure I'd be any good on myself. I used to be much less wimpy than I am now - I even pierced a boyfriend's ear as a teenager! At my most recent blood test, the nurse said I had tough skin, and it took a bit of welly to get the needle in! Not heard that one before, but it sounds as though some people's skin is literally tougher than others, so perhaps that's it?!

Another day of DIY here, oh the joy....better stop faffing and get on with it.

Bushy the needle was definitely all the way in, the plastic bit was against my skin. After the droplets I was getting I decided to let go of the pinch once the needle was in to check I wasn't squeezing too hard and stopping the drug going in iyswim. I then pinched again before taking it out. I'm kind of embarrassed I seem to be reporting back every single night, everyone else just got on with it! It's fine this morning, just bruised, it was the hard lump that was a little weird. Tonight I might try again without the pinch at all! Ooo what fun.

On the telling/not telling. Plenty of our friends (and colleagues) know about the IUI but I tried to tell my best friend when I saw her yesterday and I just couldn't. She is lovely but she just doesn't understand, she instadiffed twice. (Although as she said it took 3 months for the second bfp and she remembers how disappointing it was each month ) Last year when I was post mc and talking about ttc she told me to just 'not think about it' until after the wedding. She really doesn't get it so I think I was worried about her saying something unhelpful and didn't want to risk it.
Another friend asked me how it was going and I wasn't in the mood so just said I didn't want to talk about it. She didn't bat an eyelid and just changed the conversation. I think if your friends bring it up you just say 'if you don't mind we'd rather talk about something else' and ask them a question to change the subject. I agree with happy, telling or not telling has to be a joint decision.

rain enjoy your pj day! I've got loads of school work to do, baby gifts to finish knitting and a door to varnish... Best get off mn then!

Sorry, I meant to say I agreed with rain and I was going to say hope you feel better to happy. Memorising who said what when trying to reply on the phone app is challenging! I usually go backwards and forwards having copied my reply so I don't lose it!

bushy my Dp also wants to keep it quiet so for our friends I do - but my friends I tell the ones I can trust to be helpful. Which dies not include any sisters unfortunately

This'll make you laugh. Out for a drink in Friday, friend said was I w*making too.much as that can make your bits too acidic! Excellent illustration of unhelpful comment.and bizarre!

W*anking!

I give up

Nolly - are you on a new gadget at the moment!? It's got it on for you!!!

Barking - that jabbing lump sounds a bit uncomfortable but I do remember bleeding and bruising once or twice.

Thanks for the advice, v sensible and I think I kinda knew that would be the right thing, just needed to be told.

Barking, my nurse said if you inject without pinching it'll hurt more. Also you're v sporty and fit so maybe you've got more muscle there instead of padding!

Dh and I have been invited round to friends to watch footsie ( apparently exciting match that determines whether Liverpool win the legume or not) so had better get on as I too have school work to get finished. Friend will be there this arvo but there'll be lots of blokes so not much chance if an intimate conversation so that might help!!

Wait. Wanking gives you vinegar bits? What fresh hell is this?

I have been telling DH the female orgasm is essential to conception as it moves sperm upwards and towards the light. No?

Yes, the contractions women experience during orgasm are supposed to help the sperm up. I don't believe this thing about vinegary bits at all. Everything I have read suggests that food is what can change your, ahem, flavour. I can't remember the exact details but I think veggies tend to make you sweeter and acidic foods like meat, dairy and such can make you more vinegary.

I don't believe it either. Fell about laughing - in a tragi comic kinda way. I do believe it about the oegasm though. Plus is nice

Yeah new phone, it Hates me boodle

Hahaha Bushy! You've been invited round to a friends to watch some footsie?! On a Sunday afternoon?! I'm sure Liverpool will be delighted to win the legume. Sounds far more exciting than the boring premier league trophy! I'm glad someone else is typo queen along with me!! Anyway, what is your OTD?

Again you made me lol RP! I also tell DH the same. I also find that there is less of a mess after if this happens if you see what I mean? Therefore I can only assume it gets more 'sucked up'.

Barking your jabbing experiences sound not too pleasant. You are really putting the willies up me for my daily 9 month experience of it! I told one of the nurses at work about my blood thing. She said if I want to confide in her when the time comes, then she will show me how to inject myself in the best way. She said you should do it in a circular pattern, starting on the right side and going round day by day to the left side and then back again. Just around the edge of the tummy, avoiding the umbilicus.

Nolly your friend is weird! That's an old wives tale I havent heard before!

Happy I hope you're feeling better soon.

for Lady

Don't let me freak you out funky I'm just incompetent.... I'm not causing myself pain or getting anxious while doing the jabbing, just worrying afterwards that I'm doing something wrong! If only my gp friend wasn't away on holiday.... I'm sure you'll be absolutely fine. Plenty of other berries have managed this without making any fuss at all!

Numeracy planning is going verrrry sloooowwly.... Getting sleepy now from staring at the screen. Roll on summer and no more working weekends!!!!

at legumes and footsie!! Hahaha! Those overpaid morons would be far more tolerable if their trophy was a giant cabbage.

nolly your friend sounds crackers! Where did she hear that 'fact'? Honestly, this is probably the main reason I don't talk to anyone IRL about ttc too much, they're always full of weird and unhelpful 'advice'. I read an article by Robert Winston saying he thought orgasms were helpful, but there's never been a study as there's the risk of piling on more pressure and stress to couples who's sex lives may already be in the ttc doldrums.

Barking I had a couple of times when I bled and bruised. If you don't have much padding, it may be worth checking with the clinic to see if you can inject into your leg. I got some nasty bumps on my tummy from the buserelin and the nurse at the FC advised that it may be because of the sterets used to clean the top of the bottle.

Interesting conversations about the orgasms, I kinda presumed that it helped; has anyone used preseed?

Day 5 transfer tomorrow, starting to get a combination of nervous & excited. DH & I had a chat about what to tell those who know we are actively having IVF and we didn't reach much of a conclusion so not sure what to do. I guess there is no point worrying about it as it may be immaterial.

Oo HB exciting times for you, hope it goes well and will be crossing everything for you.

Laughing my head off at the acid/wanking and the sucking up/orgasms... Zita West also says they are probably helpful but definitely not essential. And RP just remember people get pregnant from pre ejaculation and other ways of it being transferred so I wouldn't worry about how far up it goes. (Clearly none of us have been so lucky like!)

Funky loved the recap for us of current/former berries, and it's lovely to see so many have got diffed!! Were many natural or IVF etc do you know?

Lady if you are reading this, have been thinking of you, hoping you are alright.

Bushy when's your testing day? I am keeping fx for you.

About to start on work now, but hopefully getting an Indian tonight for tea hope everyone had a lovely weekend.

beaky most were natural bfps to start, then boom had clomid bfp twins, kitty scored with IUI and yorkie and bunny got lucky with IVF.

We've just had a curry .

Good luck for your pupo day tomorrow hb!

Beaky the vast majority of diffed Berries got pg naturally (or maybe with the help of Clomid in some cases) but I think it's only within the last 6 months or so that any of us have actually had IVF. As far as I know it's Bunny and Yorkie who have become diffed from IVF and Kitty from IUI. Hope I haven't forgotten anyone!

X post Barking!

Thanks Barking and Happy and woohoo to the IUI bfp! And wow some berry twins all of those bfps sound very promising and give me more hope.

I am 7 or 8 dpo I think - difficult to tell from the early ovulation but I want to do everything I can next cycle. I don't think IUI will happen til June so that will give me an extra month to be super healthy too .

So nice to hear about berry successes barking and happy - thank you x

hb all the best for.tomorrow I really hope it goes well for you.

rain rl friends often say absurd things. Thank god for.you guys who appreciate the irony!

So Liverpool did not win the 'legume' so my dh was happy at the 'footsie' result

Good luck hb tomorrow!! Tbh I think keep things between you two. Although other people might know you're having Ivf, unless they've had it themselves they won't know what's involved or the timescale so they won't expect to know updates and anyway if they do you can say you'll tell them when you're ready. My friend just asked me how things were and whether I'd told my boss, as that was our last chat. So filled her in on that and how I was feeling better but didn't say anything further on our treatment and she didn't ask. My OTD is later next week. Bit scary to think one day decides which way our path goes. I'm trying not to think about it too much which is so far working. Got a big work thing this week too so my energies are focused on that, think I won't be able to sleep too well if I get too over excited about OTD so hence trying to keep calm and carry on. Rest assured ladies I will let you know though!