Hell no Aunt Flo! You can't park that red convertible here. This space is reserved. Turn on, tune in and cop off. It's Just Shagging part 23!

[Minion]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 22 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2035460-Get-your-ROCs-off-Get-your-ROCs-off-honey-Knickers-down-legs-up-and-capes-on-in-the-competition-for-SOTM-Just-Shagging-part-22-the-one-with-all-the-BFPs?" target="_blank">Here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is  <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>

Happy shagging shaggers!

wilh yes mrcookie is fine now, we are quite excited about are impending arrival!

Did you know that we can all be MN mates? I will send you all a request when I'm on the computer later.

That way we can still be connected

Sends my shag pals (how wrong does that sound !) hugs because I luffs you! went a bit netmums there. soz!

Happy bonk holiday

Congratulations aubergine! And rpopz glad to hear the line is heading in the right direction.

I am still here and shagging! Af due now according to me, Thursday according to opks. Not excited as think the folic acid probably affecting my cycle.

Tabby why does folic acid affect your cycle? I realise about thrice once a day on this thread that I know nothing about ttc.

I did not know about MN mates. Does this mean you can have the odd private chat if necessary to avoid outing yourself? This thread is great as new people can come onto it but sometimes I have something that I want to tell you lot but don't really want it out on the internet for all to see.

Rpopz your line sounds fab. At what stage do you think you may stop POAS ?

Congrats Aubergine!

wil I'm probably talking out of my bum - I read on another thread that folic acid could affect your cycle but just googled it and think it's an urban myth. Ignore me

Just trying to manage my expectations - have wanted to start trying for about seven years but boyfriend only just convinced he can't put it off any longer without me going loopy the time is right. I am excited but scared we might have left it too late...

Lil you ain't getting rid of the minion either! I'm in it till you get knocked up!
I wonder how red is?

Hi Tabby I think I've read that Vitamin B can affect your cycle... perhaps that's what you're thinking about?

I think Frolic acid is fine, and important to take if you're ttc. I keep forgetting mine

how old are you tabby?
I've never heard the folic acid affecting cycles thing I'm afraid maybe ur upduffed if weird things happening?

ahh fanks min

I keep wondering about Red too, hope she's ok.

I'm intrigued by this MN mates thing. Would be lovely to keep in touch with all the JS Grads as they inevitably drift away!

I got my cape on for the first time this cycle last night.. I feel like a fraud on this thread since I'm really not trying very hard at all! Just got too much else going on in our lives at the mo, so I'm taking a v laid back attitude to it, in contrast to my total obsession of a few months ago.

yeah I hope reds absence is good news.

snow if you get upduffed "when we stopped trying" I think we will all be lol

Thanks all. lil I turned 35 a couple of months ago.. Nothing weird happening - I think think I might be a day late but opks said cycle should be 35 days so not testing yet.

snow laid back sounds good!!

this ttc lark is so complicated isn't it! LP's fertile days, ov day, opks, ultimate contraband cbfm....I wish getting upduffed was as easy as they made it sound in sex ed! I think its the irony that makes it worse. you spend your life avoiding pg thinking the first time you take the jonny away bang! I am thinking I may try and stay true to the jsing ethos this month but not sure the control freak in me will cope with not knowing when I've iced...and therefore not knowing when I'm due!

Snow you are blatantly going to get upduffed this month if you're not really bothering. Just saying

Hoping Red and the frembryos are all good too...

Wil I think I'm done with stick peeing now This morning's was just because I've officially missed my period... just to check... haha. So that's the last one I promise! Unless something drastic happens I will assume from now on I'm definitely upduffed

What's everyone up to today? DH is at work so so far I've just been really dull and cleaned up and walked the dog!

We're not doing much either RPopz. We were out this morning but now just lounging around tidying up. I also have been thinking about Red and hoping all is ok.

Tabby you're around the same age as me. I'm definitely finding it harder this time round but am sure we will both manage it eventually. You're doing very well holding out and not POAS.

Snow I think what you're doing probably is the very ethos of JSing. I can't help thinking that I managed to get pg just before I joined here (although didn't know at the time obviously) and I hadn't been putting a huge amount of effort in. Whereas since I have been obsessing over it, there has been nothing happening. It's pretty hard to step back to that though.

I was obsessed just a few months ago. I was checking my CM daily (lovely!), temping, and recording it all on Fertility Friend. So I knew at all times exactly what CD I was on, exactly when I (thought) had iced, and exactly when ERTD was due.

One of the reasons to do this was to time my Day 21 test on the right day - I still haven't done that, so I do need to keep track a bit to get that right (I've had 2 tests with poor results which I think were on the wrong day each time).

I was drinking grapefruit juice in the 2 weeks prior to icing, and eating pineapple for a week after. I avoided alcohol completely during the TWOT and stressed about it if we went out for a night out.

At the time of being obsessed, I did wonder how anyone could ever not know where they were in their cycle, or how I would ever go back to JSing. Those women who say they didn't know they were pg for weeks because they had lost track of when their period was due, or those who said they fell pg just by not trying were a TOTAL mystery to me. I'm a control freak and a scientist, and I thought my obsession was just an inevitable result of my personality type.

And then, I just..... stopped. It was around the time that I applied for new job and I thought it prob best to not try too hard at the mo, just until I get established in the job. I stopped temping, and put away the Fertility Friend. And magically, the obsession has died away a bit. I no longer know exactly which CD I'm on, and I don't get annoyed with DP if we don't JS on the right days. No more arguments when he falls asleep and won't shag me on the days when I say he has to attractive

It's a relief. A weight off the shoulders.

Now I'm not saying I won't go back to obsessing in a few month's time when we start trying again in earnest. And I'd recommend temping and checking of CM to get an idea of your cycle, I really learned a lot. But don't let it take over your life, and don't let it ruin your sex life.

I'm the most obsessive control freak going. If I can be chilled out about it, anyone can.

God Snow that sounds like hard work! No wonder you feel relieved. I am very lazy at being obsessed. All I really mean is that I count my cycle days and yes, I do get stressed when we're not shagging when I think we should be. I check CM but to be honest that stressed me out this month. Before I never knew when I was due or how long my cycle was. So it feels very different to that but I haven't gone down the temping etc. route. Although am definitely planning to buy some OPKs if AF arrives this time. My biggest pain in the arse is that I think about it ALL the time and I don't really know how to stop doing that. I do wonder if not coming on here would help but I like it and am reluctant to leave. Maybe I should only check in once a day or something .

Lovely to hear everyone is well and sticking around!

We've just done last bit of shopping for hold, so I actually feel organised and relaxed, so unlike me hehe

Hope you're all having nice bonk holiday evening :)

Hols not hold :)

Hello ladies. Can I join you here please? AF got me today after a stupidly long cycle for me!
So I shall be jumping on husband (and convincing him that he really seduced me) lots until he very inconveniently goes away with work slap bang in middle of cycle.

To introduce myself.

MrsBBB
29
TTC #2
Cycle 2 (took 5 last time)

hi mrsbbb welcome to the but house!

snow what you have described has been me for the last 13 cycles/16months. after my 7week AF which arrived 2weeks after I thought it was due. I was so stressed with not knowing why AF had arrived but getting bfns I hit Dr goofle for advice. I learnt about temping, cm, delayed ov, LP's. and I needed to know all of it because I too am an ultimate control freak. now all this time on I know I need to take a step back from it and chill, but I don't know how I'd cope with not knowing when AF was due, because I'd have no idea without the science as I ov so irregularly. ov been trying to halt the crazy for about a year....it was why I joined this thread in the first place, and it helped a little. I don't temp the whole month now, I don't track cm to all different types, I just track ewcm, but I know I need to lose the opks, the cbfm, the bbt thermometer, I just don't know how.

sorry I dont know where that all came from. please don't kick me out even though I'm a terrible example of a jser!! any suggestions great fully received!

Hi mrsBBB! I think lil meant the mad house! Haha. But house works too!

Obviously we all want to be the best JSer we can be but there is a balance to put your mind at rest too. I never temped (didn't understand it) and I lucky (?) enough to not need to dig around for CM but I have used ov sticks to confirm ov and look for consistent timings. After a few months of no success it's something you can do to feel in control again. The problem is when that control takes over you and you freak out!

Basically, you can freak out either way - with the info or without! Just find what works for you and try to stay sane!

oops... was supposed to say nut house!

Hello! Back in the land of phone signal.

My update: ttc since July 2013, af/bfp due 15th approx.

Officially in the TWOT zone...

Loving the chat on here, it cheers me right up. Me and dh had lots of chats about 'what our kids might be like' over our trip and are really hoping this month is lucky.

snow so many people get upduffed when the 'stop trying' - you might be on to something...

lil the but house!?!? ha ha ha ha!!!

It is SO easy to get obsessed - I was telling my mate about it on Friday and she had no idea about any of this. I spent bloody years trying not to get pg and thinking if I was even late with pill I'd get upduffed. Honestly wish I hadn't bothered!! It's clearly a lot harder than I thought.

Hi to MrsBBB!!! this is indeedy a but house ;)