Hell no Aunt Flo! You can't park that red convertible here. This space is reserved. Turn on, tune in and cop off. It's Just Shagging part 23!

[Minion]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 22 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2035460-Get-your-ROCs-off-Get-your-ROCs-off-honey-Knickers-down-legs-up-and-capes-on-in-the-competition-for-SOTM-Just-Shagging-part-22-the-one-with-all-the-BFPs?" target="_blank">Here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is  <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>

Happy shagging shaggers!

Woo hoo!!

Another BFP this is a lucky thread

Slaps and Zyla x

Haha any time is gin time! I also spent today avoiding bumps and newborns. It's easier when you have a toddler to distract you though. You don't need to slap yourself. It's possible to be simultaneously happy for other people and sad for yourself. I'll be back in the grumps too if AF arrives.

I change my mind about that every month Duck. I can't even remember what we did the month I managed to get pregnant, but knowing us it was probably only around 5 times.

Well I think I might be icing at the start of our hol a week on fri, so may just lock DH in the cabin for a couple of days lol x

Everyone is going on holidays. So jealous.!

dont worry zyla at the rate I'm going I'll be here until I hit menopause!

congrats frog yep we need stats, days dtd anything you did differently how long/many cycles you've been trying etc.

have had a glass of strawberry champers this afternoon and just had a crepe mmmm

dh and I were talking about ttc earlier. it was a bit doom and gloom as we were talking on the lines of what if it never happens. he said he doesn't think he would want to adopt if it came to it and worries that if it doesn't happen just us won't be enough for me.

so am feeling a bit rubbish and fragile now so need a bit if a PMA infusion. 2bfps for my viroids certainly helps! as did getting cape on this pm on cd4! so not like us!

wine or gin = a positive lil!

Strawberry champers sounds lovely.

DH and I haven't had that convo yet, he's adamant that we'll conceive naturally, but the positivity doesn't always help when it hasn't worked that month.

However, PMA, let's chill out, relax, enjoy it, have the alcohol and foods we want, and then be surprised when we get a bfp this cycle!

Ooh lil I lurve crepes! Dammit now I want crepes.
I'll have to make do with a chicken parmo and daim ice cream.
Hugs lil, lots of squishy hugs.

you're on zyla!

thanks for the hugs min...sorry for causing crepe envy though. I could order another and eat it on your behalf

Oh Lil that's so hard. Dulcet is proof that it can happen after trying for a long time. No point worrying over things that haven't happened yet. Live in the moment, enjoy the sun and strawberry champers and take each day as it comes.

Can you order 2 more please? One with golden syrup and lemon and another with drizzly chocolate sauce?
God I'd love you forever if u did,...mmmmmmmm

I need a crepe!

Hiya thanks for all the congratulations it's lovely of you all and I'm absolutely sure everyone else will get their positives soon.

Not too sure of my stats as I work a lot of weird shifts and can't really remember what we did and when - mr frog and I were trying to work it out earlier. Only thing different was that I was crazy busy at work do maybe not thinking about it at conception time? ( just lots after!)

Dylan and lil hope you're feeling better - enjoy the booze x

Arg zyla sorry not Dylan autocorrect is wonderful

Also went for a MEGA boozy night out last weekend after a bfn - oops so law of sod seems to work well for this Fred ;)

I know it is hard to take sometimes viroids, it's completely understandable to feel sad for yourself. I've been on this Fred for agggggeeeeessss on and off, been on the monthly buses, on the 10mnth plus bus - seen dozens of BFPs and it was never me. It can be tough. But I guess sometimes it can just happen!

Gave DH a baby football top I bought when we first started TTC. The postage date on envelope was 15th May 2012. Felt good to finally get it out the drawer!

(We had a TTC break, in case you wonder why dates don't add up! Lol)

Now pass a crepe, with lemon and sugar please!

Wow, aubergine that's fantastic news.

I'm feeling genuinely pleased but also a little bit gutted for me. I am not pregnant, I'll be here next month.

Is that too evil? I need gin.

So how many shaggers are left now then ?? (raises hand gingerly-in pain here) I'm not sure how much me and mrbabble will get to do it, he starts a new job in a week, as a baker, which means he'll be up at midnight or 3 in the morning for work! how does one bloke go from kitchen fitter to baker in a week!!! ridiculous!

Oh no, I'm starting to symptom spot. Is anyone else Twotting?

shagger raises hand

Not twotting, probably 2 weeks pre icing ATM not that I'm using contraband so fingers crossed for us!

Congratulations Aubergine!

Virioids, I'm not going anywhere. Not twotting, haven't even Jsed this cycle yet (im on CD 6 or something like that), so it's hiiiiiiiighly unlikely I'll be upduffed anytime soon.

So don't be lonely!

It is bittersweet when you hear of other's BFPs. But when it's someone who has been trying for a long time, I find it really encouraging. If they can do it, so can we

That's why I'd like to propose a new Fred rule - when people get a BFP, the first thing I do is scroll back to work out their back story, how long they've been ttc, any complications etc so that I can find encouragement from them. Obvs it's not very easy to get that from a quick scroll back through the fred, so I wonder if people wouldn't mind summing up their story when they get a BFP? It really helps me to find encouragement if I hear of someone who has been trying for ages who finally gets upduffed.

What do people think?

Great idea Snow. It's really easy to forget or get people mixed up. Can someone disable Dr Goofle on my laptop please?

I'd like that Snow as long as those getting the BFP are comfortable with it.

I'm feeling things more keenly I think because although it's early days this time, it was a looong road for me ttc #1 followed by a birth that gives me nightmares - hence the username. I really want it but I'm scared too. Positive stories are all good

cor i'm struggling to keep up with all the fab chat on this thread but congrats muchly Dulcet, that is super brilliant news!!!

I'm TWOT TWOT TWOTing at the mo, anyone else AF/BFP due round about the 12th?