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The Berries: Projecting the sausage signal and chasing rainbows whilst chanting FUFC in the hunt for that elusive BFP (thread 19)

977 replies

happylass · 28/03/2014 18:24

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

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barkingtreefrog · 02/05/2014 17:26

You keep posting away otters we're all here to listen to as many rants/outbursts as you need.

Either this sticks and you're getting married as a three or you'll be wearing that gorgeous, stunning, fitted wedding dress, drinking loads of champagne and just postponing your bfp until you're on your honeymoon as you'll be more fertile as merk said. By Tuesday if the bitch has stayed away but you're still not confident about the tests you could go to the gp and ask for a blood test? Is it normal for you to be more than 2 days late?

nolly Obviously I won't know until I start but I don't think the new job would be boring. There are different elements to it and although nothing is going to be further away from boredom than a primary classroom, I think it will keep my interest.

lady - DH just got home and told me he'd realised a downside - he'd have to 'babysit' our child in the holidays!!

barkingtreefrog · 02/05/2014 17:31

x-post lumen. I've got one newborn to visit this weekend - the baby born a couple of weeks before what would have been my due date. I mc a couple of weeks before she announced she was pg and her bump-that-should-have-matched-mine has plagued me for the last 6 months as any berry will know, I've ranted about it often enough. I'm really glad I'm starting the IUI as it will make the visit easier. We only get one round of IVF here anyway, regardless of age. I'll be 35 next month... I'll be too old for egg sharing through my current clinic though, which is quite annoying. But irrelevant, seeing as I'll be getting an IUI bfp in just over 28 days Grin.

ladybunnikins · 02/05/2014 17:34

Barking all the more reason to take the job then, I hope he isn't expecting to be paid for babysitting!
Lumen doesn't sound like a very relaxing weekend for you then, hope you survive all those sproglets!

lumen · 02/05/2014 17:41

Barking I know what you mean about seeing sproglets being easier when you know there are plans in place, bring on your bfp.

Lady you are right, not the most relaxing weekend but will be lovely to see my family. Hope you are doing ok with 2ww.

ladybunnikins · 02/05/2014 17:41

Oh god, good luck with that Barking, I hope the parents look exhausted and fed-up and don't say anything too annoying like, "It's tiring but it's so worth it" and anything about how you don't know unconditional love until you've had a baby.

nolly3 · 02/05/2014 17:55

I've had that one a few times, lady. People.can be insensitive warts. But then I expect I said plenty of stupid things before entering ttc hell.
Just wanted to say thanks lady and all you other berries for sharing all the details that never make it onto the med info sheets. Really so kind and helpful. Fx for you.

barking you are sounding so positive at. Is ace. Job - my policy is keep options open so apply and see if you like them.

HampshireBlues · 02/05/2014 17:58

Hi all!Otters sorry you are getting conflicting results, am keeping everything crossed but we are all here for you.
Bushy good news on the embies, ans getting some blastocysts.
Welcome Lumen I hope you find the Berries as much support as I have.
So scan a bit better; 10 follicles biggest up to 15 mm smallest at 10 so continuing and re-scan on Monday but FC still won't committ to EC day (work are actually being ok about it). Apparently they like them to be a minimum of 16mm but ideally 20mm so who knows. Will just keep going Smile.
Off to a baby shower tomorrow so need to keep it together.

Hope everyone has a good BH weekend planned!

ladybunnikins · 02/05/2014 18:05

That's good growth in a few days, HB, they should grow 2mm a day so hopefully on Monday they'll say your eggs are ready.

TheRainDrops · 02/05/2014 19:32

If only we could be fitted with microwave style pingers to say when they're done hb!

otters I'm sorry you're not getting the definitive positive test that you, and we, all want for you so much. I'd second the suggestion of popping by your GP for a blood test if you can (not much use on a Friday before a BH I know). Keeping everything crossed for you!

Welcome back nolly! Did you miss the grand MN password reset saga? That might be why you struggled to get back in, bloody hackers!

lumen you brave lady - sending you lots of Berry vibes to get you through the babified weekend in one piece!

barking how's knicker watch going? Like I said in t'other place, get yourself in to the clinic tomorrow anyway.

to everyone else. I hope you've all got nice weekends off planned! Got peak on CBFM today (feathers I got it wrong, I'm CD12 today, but close enough!) so it's a go round tonight, one tomorrow morning and then another on Sunday morning I think! Enjoying some naice wine this eve tho.... Wink

beakybeak · 02/05/2014 21:39

Otters hope you are ok and fx that it's just a blip with the sticks. Post as much as you like, we are here for you.

Funky I know what you mean re unhealthy women who get pregs no problem, I think that is the most unfair thing for me.

Lumen what a weekend you have lined up! Hope you have a nice weekend regardless. I have a babyshower this weekend although I'm looking forward to seeing everyone. I can't really avoid babies these days.

Bushy I can't remember if I said but great news on the embies, fx all goes well in Sunday for et.

Cripes HB what a crap time to go to a baby shower, but good news on the follies, hopefully they will sprout to required size very quickly now.

I should have done the cbdigi this morn but didn't as woke up needing a wee a little early and then just went back to bed! Dim eh! Anyway will get peeing tomorrow. I spent my lunch hour in mothercare buying gifts today, was a bit crap and the preg couples and ones with babies pissed me off. Hmm anyway, wine and choc tonight Grin hope everyone has lots planned for the weekend!

TheRainDrops · 02/05/2014 22:08

While I remember, I have a Day 21 test question please! I need to get this done this month - according to my CBFM I ovulate today/tomorrow (cd12/13) but my cycle length is somewhere between 29 - 31 days at the moment. Am I alright to get it done a week on Monday (cd22)? Or should I go for 7 days before the median cycle length i.e. Cd23?

lumen · 02/05/2014 22:13

Rain I have had day 21 done twice now, both times on day 21 and my cycle can vary. I assume day 22 will be ok as not sure progesterone varies massively from on day to next after ovulation, unless you are pg obv x

lumen · 02/05/2014 22:14

One day, not on day! Wink

beakybeak · 02/05/2014 22:32

Rain I think if if were me I'd go for the median as you suggest, day 23. It's a real tricky one when you aren't regular as clockwork. Mine didn't end up being the right day but they didn't seem too worried.

Berries I have a weird crampy-ness in my left hand side and have done for a few days. It's a bit worse at the moment but not sure what it is. I feel like I'm gonna get AF but only cd8

barkingtreefrog · 02/05/2014 23:43

beaky have you checked for aliens? There might be one inside you trying to get out. Just a thought.

Rain I had the day 21 test knowing it was too early (they called me and said I needed to see a doctor as I wasn't ovulating and I said I could have told them that as I never ovulated before day 22) and they just told me to have it done again on cd29, which I did and it showed ovulation. So basically unless you know you Ov really late, I don't think the exact day matters that much disclaimer, I could be totally wrong.

Gillster · 03/05/2014 07:21

Rain you should aim for 7 days before AF due. Are you able to go in for a couple of different days if you are uncertain of this? I had a couple of failed day 21 tests because blood was taken on the wrong day. However for the third test I knew that AF would show 14 days after a positive OV so booked it for 7 days before and was bang on.

happylass · 03/05/2014 07:23

Morning all. Sorry I've been AWOL most of the week - been a manic one in work. Hope everyone is ok.
Otters - thinking of you and keeping literally everything crossed that all is ok Flowers
Also thinking of all berries currently IVF-ing
Welcome Lumen and welcome back nolly.
Apologies if I've missed anything out, will be a better Berry in future I promise!
Nothing much to report here. Shag week next week and going to give it a really good go this month as been a bit rubbish the last few cycles what with DP being away at the key time though I really think why do we bother at all as lost all hope it's going to happen naturally
Scan photos were being passed around in work yesterday by pg colleague then came home to be clobbered with FB pg announcement from ex-pupil

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Gillster · 03/05/2014 07:27

Not sure about the cramping Beaky. I have something similar around ovulation (CD20) for me but CD8 seems early.

Funky I get spotting now every month at day 12 and it's enough to use a tampon. This has been a feature for the last 6 months or so and I put it down to the polyp in my case which can cause irregular bleeding. Good idea to get your smear up to date though.

TheRainDrops · 03/05/2014 08:14

Thanks berries - it's the 7 days before AF thing that has me in a stew. I'll have to do some FF analysis!

Sorry you got baby bombed yesterday happy - it never gets easier to deal with does it? I haven't had one for a little while, which makes me worry there'll be one any minute now - maybe it'll be me!

Right, taking the fella clothes shopping. Wish me luck!!!

Viperama · 03/05/2014 10:36

barking because and everyone else thanks for your feedback on stress. It mirrors what I've been thinking. It's used as a blame game for us girls and it hacks me off. I have ibs, which I am genetically disposed to as half my family has it, and it flares up in times of stress. I control it with diet but if stress is great there's nothing I can do.
Interestingly I conceived in January when I was back from holiday but was still stressed and recovering from parasite I caught halfway through. Lost the baby sadly. But I do think conceiving on holiday or when stopped trying is codswallop. I think conception on holiday happens because there is more sex time.

Saying that reducing stress is better for our mental well being and makes us happier human beings. So I made a decision last weekend (when I had to work even though I'm m-f job). Sod the job with great mat perks, I'm going to start looking for another where I can relax more and travel less. Life is to short to be worrying about finances for 1 year while I'm off, yes it might mean a struggle but what price happiness, and a contented mother for my longed for bubba.

Viperama · 03/05/2014 10:46

Otters just read back, so sorry for what you are going through right now. Big squish from me

funkymonk · 03/05/2014 11:02

Morning berries. Otters are you ok? Did you test this morning?

HB wonderful about your follies. I hope they keep growing lots and lots!

How are you feeling lady and bushy?

Viper are you a new berry? Welcome if so, I've been a bit rubbish at posting lately.

Lumen do you has a date for ivf?

Beaky I've had weird period type cramps this cycle on day 8,9 and 10 (today day 11) along with some bleeding. Didn't think about a possibly polyp gill. I'll mention it at FC on 13th may.

With regards to day 21 tests, I've only had one and thought it was 7 dpo that was important rather than 7 says before af. My luteal phase is 11 days so I arranges my test for 4 days before af. Do I need to get it done again do you think?

Barking, new job sounds a good'un. I'm all for a change in career if it makes you happier, regardless of the financial loss (as long as you can get by of course)

Hope everyone has a great bank hol that's not filled with too much babbifiedness.

funkymonk · 03/05/2014 11:03

God look at all those typos off my last post. I give up with the mobile!

greatbigbushybeard · 03/05/2014 12:51

funky I love the typos! Feeling ok really. Big day tomorrow. Think the 2 weeks after that will be tricky,how are you coping lady? Tmi here, I have to do my progesterone up the back door, or 'bum bullets' as I think bunny called them- lol my ass off!! It's obv better to do them post bowel movement in AM. Anyway, been a bit slow of a morning 'getting going' so to speak, so have been experimenting with coffee to get things going, dear me so glamorous! Had the opposite problem yesterday where I'd done my suppository (ick) and then got horrendous cramps, needing to go to the toilet,tried to avoid it but had to ,so it'd only been up there for an hour and a half and believe me it surely would have ,ahem, disappeared , lord knows what I ate!!

Anyhow, whilst I'm over sharing Blush, has anyone here bothered with sex with dh in between ec and et? Not that I really feel like it but we won't be for another 2 weeks after et and maybe more. The nurse kindly said to me when I asked when we should abstain pre ec that 'he can help himself' lol! Wink

viperama the whole stress thing is a tricky one! I think stress affects our whole being:bowels, breathing, headaches etc so why wouldn't it affect ttc but I think you're right in saying the reason conception often happens more when on holiday or relaxed is because there's more sex happening. In Emma cannon's total fertility book ( quite a good read) she says the one factor that will increase your chances is having lots of sex, it's overlooked so often but that is the one thing that will help. Seems obvious doesn't it. Obviously if you have issues like your tubes aren't the greatest, sperm not great etc then that won't help that much nor will 'relaxing'. I just think some of us need more help. We've worked on my egg quality as I have low amh and dh had low count and motility and we've worked on that too and it seems they're alright and getting on ok in the Petri dish of lurve, they just really needed help to get together- my tubes couldn't speed them along and my dh's swimmers needed a rest half way there!

happy it's so difficult isn't it when everyone else is cooing and asking questions etc but no fear it WILL be you soon. My pg colleague is inevitably turning staff room conversation to babies but at the mo I can deal with it as I feel we're getting closer to it myself. I love the term 'baby bombing'.

For all those off to baby showers et al I hope you can dodge all the loaded baby ttc questions people seem to think are fine to ask when you're at these things. I feel a big sense of relief when I've successfully navigated my way round them and avoided them!

OttersPocket · 03/05/2014 12:58

Just checking in quickly as I've dragged DP out fantasy house shopping (looking round show homes we can't afford!) to take my mind off things. I did a frer this morning and there was barely a line, a proper squinter. Much, much lighter than any previous tests. I'm pretty much just waiting to start 'AF' now.

Thanks for thinking about me, I'll come back later to read everyone else's news.