The Berries: Projecting the sausage signal and chasing rainbows whilst chanting FUFC in the hunt for that elusive BFP (thread 19)

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

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Thanks boodle. I'm going to talk to my head and tell him that I will need to pop out for an appt and have at least two days- ec and day after it off and a further one a couple of days later for et. I'm not planning on saying it's for Ivf. He's only just had a pg announcement to process, the one who's only been back her first academic year so don't think it's the best thing for me to say right now. Just going to say I need treatment for a gynae issue and that it needs monitoring and for the procedure to work it's time sensitive. Do you think you needed that extra 2nd day after the ec or could you have managed going back to work having had ec and 1 day off? Mine may fall over a w/e and a ppa day so that might sort things.

Oh berries, saw colleague who announced on email,the reason I got e mailed and everyone else knew was that she put a scan pic on Facebook and I'm not on it. Phew for not being on it. Also she said it was a surprise. I didn't ask but my friend said they weren't trying. What?? Who are these people that get surprise pgs that aren't trying, how does that work?? I don't want to be rude and ask questions.

Happy, I work at an academy so not sure same rules apply but we are meant to honour national pay and conditions etc... Hmm, now you've got me thinking,mi just don't know what to do re telling truth or not. I'm quite private and don't want other people knowing.

It's a tough call bushy so do what you feel comfortable with both in terms of telling people and time off. Hope you're ok, we'll all be rooting for you every step of the way!

happy how lovely to live by the beacons! boodle good choice . We're off to the North Yorkshire coast tomorrow, can't wait! Won't be warm but it is lovely and the sea air will blow away the cobwebs!

funky we're off to fuerteventura in 10 days time. We've not been on a holiday just about relaxing for a long time and we normally avoid touristy places. However, it seems like a decent place and most importantly pretty much guaranteed good weather. There is a daily yoga class on the beach which I am very excited about!

First ever gluten free cake in the oven, a Victoria sponge Smells good, hoping it also tastes nice. Even the jam will be homemade!

You're not entering The Archers bake off, tiger , are you?

Bushy that is a big deal! Wow. No wonder you felt emotional. I still am not sure I'd be able to cope with that. DH still hasn't done his, ahem, sample as it is shag week. he'd better bloody well get a move on after that though

hope NZ is amazing!

Tiger, I really liked fuerteventura - lovely wind!!!

Barking that's amazing news for your friend, it definitely gives me hope!

Lady that's a lot of needles! Is this your second IVF cycle then?

Bushy hope you are feeling ok about IVF now. I think it does come and go, how big it is, but I've decided I'm just going stick my head as far in the sand as it gets! I can't believe your pg colleague is pregs by surprise!! Seriously, I don't understand some people! Also totes jel. Re time off, see how you feel but you may get to EC/ET and really want some flexibility. You do need to put yourself first for at least this part. The school will still be there the next week

Boodle are you going for Easter weekend? That will be lovely. I went on a horse riding holiday there one year and loved it! Hope it stays nice for you.

Happy fx for your dp arriving back in time!

Tiger gluten free Victoria sponge sounds amazing! Post a pic when it's done! And v.jel of your holiday, I'd love some sun now. We are off to Ireland for Easter to visit the in laws which will be lovely but no doubt rainy!

I finished my detox thank god, lost 7lbs too (unintentional bonus!) but I'm going to stick to it during the weeks as I think my hormones need it! Weekends are for wine and chocolate though

Bushy, if your clinic does egg collection under general anaesthesia apparently you're not covered by insurance to drive for 48 hours afterwards. I felt fine from the anaesthetic but fairly bloated (I had 22 eggs so they said I was at risk of OHSS). Also bear in mind that ET can be day 2,3 or 5 and could be at short notice i.e. on the day.
Last time I was advised by the clinic to take a sick note from EC to OTD, they said I needed to avoid stress in the 2WW and if the IVF failed I might regret not taking the time off. I didn't take it but this time I will.
I'm rubbish at lying so I have told several people at work and the department has been really accommodating. I haven't told HR since, "IVF isn't sick leave" so the clinic said they will just put something like, "Aspiration of ovarian cyst" on the note. Not exactly lying!

Beaky well done on finishing the detox just in time for Easter
Yes, it's my second IVF. I've been reading up on different drug protocols and already planning changes for my third cycle, not really feeling positive this time!

lady none of that talk! Let us feel positive on your behalf

bushy I am not a teacher so don't know the additional complications you guys have when it comes to time off, but I agree with the others that you are the priority at the moment. If that means telling porky pies or, if you prefer, laying it on the line then so be it. I was a non-trying 'surprise' for my parents - bloody instadiffers!

beaky well done you! Sadly my (mostly) wheat free kick has not yielded lb loss, but that's probably because I've made up for the bread shortfall with fecking brownies!

tiger yes, post a pic! Hols sound lovely, I think we could all do with a little break at the moment. We're off to Turkey for a week in a month, can't bloody wait!

1-2 day warning: the witch is imminent. I am liable to descend into self pitying misery stakes and need heavy handed wanging.

beaky impressive half a stone weightloss!

parsley I would wang you but I'm liable to be joining you on sofa of self pity myself. Af due tomorrow and I've already had a little bit of spotting. Wondering if going gf will have improved af at all, even though it's only been 3 weeks.

rp I missed the archers this evening...am slightly addicted these days!

Tiger that looks amazing, how does it taste?

Lady, what Parsley said, we can be positive for you everything crossed. How long do you have to do the increased dose for?

Parsley I was in Costa on Monday for a decaf(!) and was eyeing up their brownies! Hopefully no wanging will be needed fx crossed for you or Tiger

tiger Vicky sponge looks a beaut! I want so bad! We don't even a crumb of a biscuit in the house right now and it's driving me mad. OH just offered me a low fat natural yogurt with a squeeze agave syrup as a 'treat' - I nearly lobbed him one!

lady no way! You must try and stay positive! Fx for you this round big time.

bushy understandable that you felt overwhelmed. Imagine I would do too. But chances are, the ivf will work, you'll get the bfp you're after and this whole messy soup will be a distant memory.

barking HELLO DOWN THERE!! Hope you're having an amazing time.

parsley I'm due on Saturday and gearing up for major sadness when my witch arrives. Can feel her brewing.

Hi everyone else! Just been to mumsnet hell and back trying to change my password, and seem to have missed loads in a couple of days! Will have a proper thread catchup tomorrow night as my eyes are slamming shut now.

Ps. Bought (actually exchanged money for product!) my wedding dress yesterday. Last chance saloon at a vintage wedding dress place near my house. Put it on and got 'the feeling' - which I really wasn't expecting! Also wasn't expecting to wear white, but there you go. The search is over and I promise not to bore you all with frock-talk ever again.

What a relief that must be feather! If you got the feeling then it's the one for sure. I bet it's fab.

Dunno how it tastes yet beaky but it weighs a ton! Will report back.

Nice looking cake Tiger, hmmmm.

Great news on the dress Feathers, must be such a relief to get that one ticked off the list and you've still plenty of time to get everything else sorted.

Sending very positive IVF vibes to Lady, Bushy and HB. Have everything crossed for you ladies.

In terms of time off work Bushy I had EC on a Thursday and took the Friday off. Felt fine on the Saturday but quite uncomfortable on the Sunday, think I was quite constipated though. I never got round to having the embies put back in though, they are sitting in the freezer . Make sure you drink plenty of water throughout. Also check the timing when your DH/DP has to produce the goods. It needs to be reasonably fresh but not too fresh IYSWIM. That was one thing that the clinic forgot to tell us about so we were frantically googling this a few days beforehand to see if DH had to knock one out a few days before EC

tiger mm mm! looks good!!

Yay feather for getting the dress! hope it's saved you cash too.

Lady, we're rooting for you. Focus on what's happening now, go day to day and be gentle on you. Don't think about the future, leave that in the future and the past in the past and keep your eye on the now.Keep your chin up and er, is it tits out??!! My ec is under sedation but not general so I will be awake. They have said I will need that day off and day after as won't be able to drive until the meds are out of your system. In my literature it talks about them not being able to give sick notes after egg transfer unless you are suffering from an Ivf side effect e.g. Ohss. It also says there's no evidence to support taking time off improves chances so they can't do sick notes too. I think the point about keeping relaxed is impt during and after et. The 2 week wait part I think I will be better being at work as if I have time to myself I will over analyse, worry and get anxious so I will be better at work but trying to take it easier.

After talking with dh I think I might just tell my head but ask him to keep it confidential. My dh says you're pussyfooting round with time sensitive gynae monitoring so just say it,then he'll get why the time off isn't set and also will understand if I'm not my usual self. I was worried about upsetting him with more potential baby news but fuck it, just cus the others keep popping them out doesn't mean I should hide my desire for a family. My dh thinks he'll be fine.

All the holiday talk is making me envious, have a lovely time. It's such lovely weather, makes everything feel nice and new and fresh doesn't it?

parsley you product of instantdifferage you!!? Yup my colleague with the surprise pg only had to sniff a willy!!

beaky good point about flexibility and the school still being there. I just really, really hope ofsted stay away,that would def not help the stress free 2ww!

I also had sedation for EC Bushy and don't remember a thing. Don't expect to be awake. I think telling your head is a good idea, it should make things easier and one less thing to worry about hopefully. My boss was lovely when I told him.

Yes, they called it sedation but it was done by an anaesthetist with propofol but I know other clinics don't use an anaesthetist and just use the kind of sedation you get for a colonoscopy.
Have you got a date for your op, Gill?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha bushy: "only had to sniff a willy* had me spraying my muesli!

feather ha ha at the spraying!! sniffing willies was someone else's saying on here, was it tiger?

gillster thanks for your insight on the sedation! I remember looking on the net about my laparoscopy and lots of people saying about wind and constipation, partly due to the gas they inflate you with, so I got in lots of fruit, smoothies etc,even prunes- which I ended up chucking out! I wonder if it's a similar thing. I think my head has already worked it out so it won't be a surprise, I think you're absolutely right, it will make it easier. However, I am going with gynae problems, cysts and endo to everyone else. Maybe I'll borrow the term 'aspiration of ovarian cysts' as not many people will want to ask about that! What did other people tell colleagues? Can I ask why you didn't get round to having the embryos put back in?

I think we need to put "sniffing willies" in the next thread title

feather totally!!

God, I have just spent from about 8.15 to now on the internet googling egg collection, Ivf and other mumsnet threads. I'm not being funny but I'm glad I've found you ladies, some of the other threads seem very full on! Catching rainbows came up and she suggested testing out your bladder by drinking up to a litre of water so you know when to start drinking so your bladder is full but not ridiculously. I'm a bit worried about weeing on the doctor- I have the bladder of a hamster and can always get a wee out!!

Also mentioned eating pineapple, avocado and Brazil nuts being good and drinking a big glass of milk- on one part it said about doing this post transfer, on another it said to prep for Ivf- think I've googled too much and now have info blindness!! Anyway, perhaps I'll put these on my shopping list.

Also, one other thing, it said to leave off perfumed oils and lotions as it can put your body's defence system on alert and could expel the embryos??!! So in one mind I'm thinking I should use non perfumed or paraben free stuff and in the other I think just carry on as normal.... Has anyone else heard of these things or followed these things? Oh dear, need to stop and get on. Think this is why I really do need to be occupied during the 2ww and after ec/et...

I think the willy sniffing was me earlier in the thread... One of my friends is extremely fertile and has been pregs with 5 babies. Me & dh joke that she only needs to sniff a willy and she's diffed. All instadiffers/surprises are called willy sniffers she started trying for most recent one early in case it took a while and instadiffed. Again.

Oh my god- 5 babies and into the sixth!? Yikes! Where does the term diffed come from? Is it a derivative of up the duff? I'd never heard of it until I came on here.

Berries!! I was locked out! Happy to be back in.

Barking, hope you're having a wonderful honeymoon! As someone with low amh and who has been recommended to try donor eggs, I found your friends story uplifting! Thanks for sharing!

Lots of ivf action going on. Sorry I can't help... Although I'm taking a keen interest as this may be me in a couple of months.

Tiger, the cake looks awesome, how was it?

Feather, good to hear you got the dress!! What's it like??