TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

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The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Sorry Viper and inca.
Sebs and metal, I am in a similar boat to you. 7 dpo with creamy CM and pelvic twinges. Trying to not read too much into it all.

Zah I'm reading too much into it already!!! If it carries on it could be a good sign, if it tapers off then I think it's just a 'more progesterone in the early part of the 2ww' type thing.

I've only got five more days to wait. That's nothing really is it.

Really sorry the witch got you Viper and Inca. Be kind to yourselves this weekend and treat yourselves to a big glass of your favourite tipple.

Sebs I am shocked at your hygienist and truly baffled as to why she would think that was an appropriate reaction to your mc news. Well done for your reaction in the face of such thoughtlessness.

Thanks ladies. I'm feeling a bit better this afternoon, I was so pissed off earlier. DP and I had our monthly counselling session at 3, I so did not want to go but it really helped. We go to keep our relationship healthy and strong and it def helped me today. We then went out and did errands on our bicycles and now at home tinkering and listening to music. We're going to have a few bottles of our fave wine with a toast tonight.

Inca really sorry you got AF too today, big hug

Oh and Tany your second fluffing pillows comment proper cracked me up when I read it! thanks for that

Sorry for AFs viper and Inca. Enjoy your wine tonight Viper!

zahazie and sebs let's hope we get three BFPs from our little synchronised cycle club next week! I might have to poas on Thursday if AF hasn't shown by then as we're off to visit my parents for Easter, and my dad always cracks open the wine as soon as we arrive...

I have just found the most brilliant site for answers you ever wanted to know about TTC and the 2ww.

www.amandabears.com/faq.html

Sorry the witch got you viper and inca she's a bitch!

So I had a lovely day with the besties baby girl today. She was soooo tiny and I literally got to be her mum for 8 hours lol...didn't upset me at all, loved her just as much as I love her other two. Although when I had her in the car with just me and DH I did fleetingly wonder if they would notice if I just casually took her home lol...Awww brimming with love and pride for my best friend and her beaut of a daughter :) happy, happy, happy :) x

Btw we are having a roast with wine not a toast as my msg above said. Nothing to bloody toast today.

zahazue sebs and metal rooting for you next week xx

Hi all, can I join? I think I probably have before but I'm useless at keeping up with things. I'm having a bad day - think its hormone related. I'm 8 dpo (and have tested twice - smack hand!) but think I'm out. Realistically I'm having more symptoms than I've ever had but my head says no. I've got one DD and I've had 2 miscarriages, one at 10 weeks and 1 at 5 weeks. And I'm having wine! Lots of it!

hi little, sorry you're joining us on this shitty thread! But it really is great for support, advice or a fish slap when needed.

THanks for that link Sebs, very interesting.

Sorry to hear AF arrived viper and inca - fingers crossed next month is your month for BFP.

Welcome littlemiss hope your stay is short.

I told my husband today that I'm pregnant. I was planning on keeping it to myself for a while as I don't want to jinx it by telling anyone (silly logic I know!) but was kind of forced to when we were due to visit my MIL today who's very poorly in hospital at the moment when we found out she also got swine flu, so I had to tell him I couldn't go. He's was super excited and wanted to tell his family to counteract some of the worry and sadness they're feeling at the moment but he's agreed to keep it just between us (& you lot he he) for now.

Self centred rant warning, scroll up/down and ignore me, I'm just having a mememe moment...

Talking of AF... She has well and truly got me, good and proper. She arrived on Wednesday and it wasn't so bad, few clots and a bit of cramping but nothing too bad. Today, however, has been effing horrendous. Plenty of clots, bleeding so heavily I was literally on the loo for nearly an hour as I couldn't move without dripping blood, passed a few big clots in the shower, going through pads like they're sweets.... I've completely had enough of it. It tapered off a bit this afternoon but she's thrown a few more clots tonight now. Kept thinking "this is the wtf cycle, it's normal" but to hell with that, it's peeing me off

I have been known to be a bit of a drama queen but I can honestly say, ladies, I don't think I want to get pregnant again. What if this happens again? I'd have to go through all this shittyness again and be worried about bleeding all over the place so I just stay in and get cross!

This probably isn't the right place or thread to have such a self centred and angry post so I apologise, ladies, I've just been on my own for this afternoon and tonight as hubby at work on lates so no place else to vent.

broody I'm sorry you're having such a rough time of it, sounds like AF is pretty horrendous. I hope the bleeding eases off soon and your next cycle is back to normal.

As for not wanting to get pregnant again, I totally understand where you're coming from. I too keep thinking 'what if I get pregnant and miscarry again', when do you decide enough is enough, but I think at this stage I just try and accept that mc can happen to anyone, and it doesn't mean that we won't have a successful pregnancy next time. But equally, if you feel you need some time off ttc to rethink everything then that's ok too. (I actually had a chat with DH recently about whether he definitely still wants a second DC, because I'd kind of gone off the idea a bit due to various reasons - changed my mind again though!).

Welcome little, and sorry for your losses.

meryl I hope your MIL gets better soon, and great that your DH is so excited about the pregnancy.

Glad you had a lovely time with your friend's baby Carly! My friend gave birth this morning to her second DC, and I can't wait to meet him. She'd been really suffering the last few weeks with SPD and practice contractions, so I was delighted for her when I got the text to say that he'd finally been born.

broody been there too. Hope you're feeling a bit less shit today. Ranting is fine.

Ok. In need of a fish slap. Suddenly got a panic on that my sore boobs and nausea were symptoms. Poas this morning and then convinced myself there was a line of the squinting variety. I think I stared at it for that long that I got line eye. It could also be an evap. Or not there.

We are being careful, as I need to have blood results and a plan and possibly heparin before trying again.

No vits, folic or aspirin. Loads of ibuprofen for arthritis flare up. 12dpo.

I will mc if I am pg .

Please tell me to get a grip.

Oh Tanny .... I am not handing you a grip - maybe I can tickle you with this trout for POAS though?
Is it absolutely certain that you would mc if you were pregnant? (sorry for the blunt question) And how likely is it that you could be pg - I mean, have you had proper tith action or are you using contraception?
Having had several instances of "line eye" in the past, there's a possibility that it was an evap line anyway. What are you going to do - contact GP for blood tests or POAS tomorrow to check again? I can't imagine how stressful this must be for you, or what a combination of emotions it must be giving you.

And Broody - I am totally with you on the wtf period - I'm on day 8 of mine, had a random day of no bleeding at all a couple of days ago and thought I'd got off fairly lightly, but it came back with clots and flooding a day later! Today seems to be just half-hearted beige gunk (sorry TMI). I'm really hoping this is the end. My periods have been all over the place since my early mc last year, I used to be 28 days, light bleed for 3 days, regular as clockwork. But I don't think my hormones have actually gone back to "normal" since last year. It's such a pisser isn't it? I keep having the "should we really try again" conversation in my head, in case I do mc again, but I'm not quite ready to give up just yet. I think it will be either third time lucky or third time unlucky for me, and then that will be it. I am finding that chocolate and wine helps cheer me up, although I'm trying not very hard to cut back the alcohol to an acceptable ttc level.

broody I think we've probably all had moments like you when we question whether we want to get pregnant again in case we have to go through a mc again, I know I certainly did. Right now I'm feeling utterly terrified to place too much hope on this little baby in case I lose it too. Its horrible that having a miscarriage then robs you of feeling hopeful and positive. Last night I started to day dream of what Christmas will be like (EDD is 18th Dec) and imagined Christmas day with all my family and a brand new baby snuggled to my chest and then I had to stop myself and think 'don't get carried away, it might not happen'.

tanny is it worth booking into to see the docs tomorrow, just in case there is a line? They could do a blood test which would show a BFP earlier and in that case surely they could start whatever treatment you need asap? Can i be nosey and ask why you need a plan in place, have you been shown to have a clotting disorder?

No problem with being blunt or nosey. I've now had 5 mcs after 2 healthy pgs. After blood tests, the only anomaly was in an antibody test. I would need to have the test repeated in 3 months to confirm. When I got this result I was already pg again and went to epac. It looked like I was likely to lose it but was prescribed heparin on the basis of one blood test. I mcd a week later, but it felt different, iykwim.

I am due to have a second blood test next week to confirm that I have a autoimmune disorder like antiphosphilid syndrome. This would be the best prognosis for future pgs but not if I am pg now.

The stats for APS are a bit bald. Without treatment there's a 95% chance of mc. This drops to 60% when taking baby aspirin and 25% with heparin and aspirin.

I mc early after a slow start, so would ideally need to be taking heparin and aspirin from ov.

We used condoms before and during ov and then didn't from about a week after.

I am going to my gp tomorrow anyway. I'll do another test in the morning and take it from there. I really want it to be line eye, as I'm so close to an answer and a plan.

Sorry, I meant to say that APS is a clotting disorder.

Broody - honestly you are nearly there now. I can remember ranting on here as I was so so sick of blood and clots and cramps, it was driving me insane. Directly I got to the end of my first AF (and it lasted 8 days) I passed some clots and it finally stopped, I was back to regular cycles and bleeding again. It sounds like you are so close to normality again, I promise you directly the bleeding stops you will feel better again.

Tanny, I think at 12dpo you would have a pretty good line, not a squinter. I guess it depends on the sensitivity of the test but I always had a squinter around 9/10 dpo but a good line by 12/13dpo. Hope you get the result you want xx

Well I am 8 dpo. Temp nosedived today and nothing happening on crotch watch. I think I'm out, will find out soon at least.

Tanny it sounds like the science says it was probably a case of line eye, so cling onto that, and good luck with getting a definitive solution to your mc issues. It's still a long path but it seems you are agonisingly close to getting there.

Thank you for the talking to! I've had another look and not even a real evap, so I think it was just a panicy moment

Office, yes, to be this close to some positive ways forward feels massive.

Tanny, really hope it is just Line Eye. You're so close to diagnosis, i'd hate for you to suffer again.
Broody, hope you're feeling better soon. Your cycles will stabilise themselves. I'm sure the next one will be back to normal. But obviously i hope you get a bfp next cycle!!
Sebs - it could be implantation dip?? Just because you've implanted earlier before doesn't mean you won't implant later this time. Fx your temp rises again tomorrow.

No news here.....twiddles thumbs.

Oh well, I'll be out for a bit...TSH has come back at 5.78 so looks like I'll be a while getting things diagnosed and stabilised. Guessing Hashimotos and possibly the reason for my mcs :(