TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

[Parsley2506]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Morning ladies, nothing to report here either. My cbfm isn't even asking for a stick yet (cd7) but been so long since I last used it I can't remember when it does...about day 9 for me I think! Anyways no tith in this house either as I am not even speaking to DH at the minute lol x

drier than a camel's flip-flop! Oh no carly, what's the fight about?!

Hi everyone, welcome catty and boba.

Just popping in to say hi and to catch-up with folks. Think it's time we got some for bfps on here!

Well my AF showed up two days late this morning. What a bloody cruel trick that is. And I'm in agony, my back and my womble area is killing me. TTC can just fuck right off just now, I'm really losing hope. Sigh. CUTO.

I told DP when I was drunk that we could put ttc on hold until after the wedding in July. Ha-bloody-ha. I'm already plotting out tith days for this month. I'm onto my final 3 rounds (out of 12) of Clomid so I don't really want to waste them. The thing is, DP was really keen to put it on hold, he wants me to enjoy the champagne and cocktails wedding. He doesn't understand that my mc due date is before the wedding and I'm freaking out about not being upduffed by the. Argh, stupid ttc bollocks

Anyhoo, hope everyone is having a slightly less shit day today!

Yep, two middle fingers to TTC, it is balls. On the plus side, I no longer have water pouring through my ceiling every time someone flushes the loo or uses the shower upstairs, so that's a win! It is a glorious relief to find a builder that knows what they're doing and isn't trying to screw you over.

Sorry for AF otter, I hate her. Dreading her inevitable arrival on Sunday. FWIW, I wouldn't be able to hold off from TTC in your position - have you worked the dates out? Even if it doesn't happen by then, there's a good chance you could still enjoy the champers - and frankly, even if you are in the 2ww, one or three two isn't going to hurt. And if you are upduffed - well, then that would be marvellous. Particularly when you've got the Clomid clock ticking.

I have indeed worked the dates out Seasides - if I'm not upduffed by then , then AF is due to start on the day of the wedding. How's that for timing?

Glad your ceiling is sorted - we've got a leaky pipe in the almost completed new kitchen. Every plumber we've had here is feckin' useless. Grr.

What the frick are the chances otter?! That seems to have happened to all the brides on these threads - proof that AF is not coincidentally a bitch, she really does like screwing with us.

I can DM you the details of a decent Edinburgh plumber if you like? Everyone in my old office used him.

Tell me about it Seasides

Oh yes, please do pm me - that would be great!

well what the actual fuckety fuck is going on

I MCed nearly 5 months ago. Started taking 1600mg vitex and 100mg Evening Primrose as soon as MC was over and have had clockwork AF since - 31 days exactly, almost to the bloody hour with OV around Day 16/17.
I consulted a natural therapist last month who advised me my Vitex intake was too high and also that EP is making me too Oestrogen dominant, so I duly ditched the EP and halved the Agnus Castus to 800mg, as well as starting on Magnesium, a v v low dose of B6 and CoQ10.

CBFM started asking for sticks on day 7 - got high IMMEDIATELY, and then this morning CD10 - fucking peak!! What the hell?!?

I don't know what to do now. Was the high Vitex/EP just masking my true screwed up cycle or has stopping taking it screwed it up?? I was usually 28 days before the MC

Argh!

otters that sucks. I hope you don't have to deal with AF on your wedding day but that's exactly what the cow would do!

Hope everyone else is well. Tanny i hope you're Ok at home.

also, I'm supposed to be going for CD21 bloods this month but as I now have no fucking clue when my period might show up (2 weeks? 3 weeks?) I can't! ARGH. And I just told our GP how bloody regular my cycle is which he will have duly put in the referral letter to the FC.

FFS!

Hello catty and boba as everyone's said hopefully your stay will be a short one :)

As for me, absolutely nothing occurring, my little bit of bleeding stopped so that's something but god knows what it was as dr google diagnosed ovulation/anovulatry cycle/implantation/general fucked-up-ness post mc. So clear as mud, did buy some opks and have been peeing on those in the evenings but no strong second line so it's a waiting game as per usual. Hope everyone's doing okay though? Anyone poas this Friday? And any exciting plans for the weekend?
I've got holiday envy by the way parsley :) but sorry to hear your cycles not playing ball :(

otters I got AF the day after my wedding so first few days of the honeymoon were a bit subdued lol but didn't matter too much and fx you'll be knocked up before then.

Hmm - I would go back to your previous regime parsley, at least so you can get 21day bloods done - then they can tell you if your oestrogen is too high. What did the natural therapist base that on, did she take blood? I can't see how, if your cycle was so regular, the vitex and EP could have been screwing your hormones up?

Also, I think it's the test the doc does on day 2 of your AF that accurately measures Oestrodial (oestrogen) as well as FSH - I got it a couple of months back - so maybe ask for that one?

I'm ok Parsley, though I seem to be mostly stopping our house from falling down. How it survives the day without me usually is astonishing.

I went to see my GP this morning and he's pleased that his letter to the consultant seems to have had a response. "He thinks you're an interesting case and will now take more interest in your care!" Oh I'm sooo pleased that my 5 dead babies make me interesting. Pity those poor saps with their boring textbook pregnancies... Grrr...

And breathe...

Signed off for a fortnight. God I hope I can get back to work then...

Oh parsley, that's a bit confusing! And I really don't know what to suggest...
I started using vitex but I'm not sure it's helping.. Haven't ovulated since. And it's supposed to help with ovulation! But then don't know if that's the vitex or just my crap post mc womble! I'd maybe call the dr and explain and see what he says..

Tanny - although i'm glad your gp is taking your history/current situation seriously and referring you, what he said is very insensitive! I'd have been sure to make some kind of narky retort! Stupid dr!!

tanny!

Welcome Catty and Boba - sorry for your losses.

Tanny, I hope you start to feel better soon and that you do get the proper care - it can be so frustrating when you feel the medics are not doing everything they can.

Parsley, hope your cycle settles down before the tests - sometimes it's a complete bloody mystery.

I'm having my own WTAF moment this week. 2 weeks exactly post-erpc yesterday. Had some brown mucousy stuff for a couple of days but no actual blood. Very faint positive pg test yesterday morning so still some traces of HCG in there that made me think using opks would be pointless. However, I swear there was also some ewcm! I guess it can't have been, as I didn't think ov was possible until all the HCG has gone?? Anyway, I pounced on DH for some TITH yesterday - first time since the erpc. I thought I may as well just in case, and also needed to get back in the saddle . But I really have no idea how to track/count this "cycle" at the moment and guess I will just DTD every couple of days until AF shows up and I can re-set the clock. It's very confusing and frustrating - particularly as I am one of life's planners. I hate the total lack of control.

Ya know ladies, aren't our bodies just miraculously shite? All this mc business is crap enough then AF/OVing going loopy and doctors being so unfeeling it's ridiculous. Honestly, I think we deserve a medal for getting through an hour, let alone a day! Hugs and high fives to sisterhood fuck me, I'm so American sometimes!

Hello and welcome to newbies, sorry you're here but enjoy the time you're here and take comfort in the fact you're not alone in this crappy time or your poas addiction

Just wondered if anyone can advise or say if this is usual:
Started miscarriage on 4th feb (was about 8-9 weeks along). Eventually got a -ve HPT on 24 Feb but was still bleeding. Kept bleeding for another 2 weeks or so, then had ewcm with a little blood in it for about a week. Got a +ve OPK at the end of that week, thought great maybe ovulating and then started bleeding heavily the next day. Now been bleeding for almost two weeks (apart from the week break I've been pretty much bleeding since 4th Feb!

Have a dr appt on Friday but not really sure what to ask for, I'm just fed up with all the bleeding and want to get back to normal.

That does sound like a very long time to be bleeding, hippo. I have read that taking the contraceptive pill can help to get your cycle back to normal, maybe suggest that at the doctors? Or he/she might refer you back for a scan to check for retained tissue - did you have a scan after your mc to check if everything had passed? And it sounds awful, so have some

I echo Office, it sounds horrible and definitely ought get it checked. You can get a scan to check you're all clear.

I hope you get some resolution soon.

hippo I'd definitely get your EPU/GP to check that out. While there's sadly no such thing as 'normal' when it comes to MC, bleeding over 6 weeks is definitely worth investigating. So sorry you lost your baby

So, I did an IC OPK when I got in tonight at about 7pm. Not. A. Dickiebird. Not even a squinter.
I know testing this late in the day is not ideal but I am now even more confused. Maybe my CBFM is just confused/lying to me? I am going to do another IC OPK at work tomorrow lunchtime (which means sneaking my pee pot to the loos!). If my CBFM is telling the truth there should be a big fat second line, right? Right?!?!

Parsley... I've decided the cbfm is a massive arse! A money making scam, that takes advantage of vulberable desperate women! Rant over! Obviously hope you do get a positive on both too!!

Parsley, in my experience if you're using CBFM in the morning it catches the tail end of your surge, do if it was right you would have got a pos opk last night/evening.

I am sure you can get false positives, I know Penguin got one last month and knew because her temps didn't go up. She then kept testing and surged later in the month and got her BFP.

Problem with the CBFM is that once you get your peak it goes onto automatic pilot, it will give you another peak tomorrow and then a high then stop asking for sticks.

I don't know if you temp but it's a good idea to do so to check you have ovulated. If your temps don't tally I would suggest you keep doing opks in the afternoon/evening. Don't trust your CBFM implicitly, it is fallible.

So TITH one completed in the fertile window. I am currently waiting for 15 mins to get up as I hear it does actually have a positive impact with conception.

I'm hoping my CBFM might give me a high tomorrow as all these lows are making me feel uneasy even though my cm is pretty fertile.

I have given myself quite a good talking to these last few days and I think I've made my peace with having an only child. I think if I hadn't tried I would have always felt a bit guilty, but if it doesn't happen for us I can genuinely tell him as he gets older that we tried but unfortunately it didn't work out. Same goes with DPs Mum who is desperate for me to have another. If you give it everything you've got and it doesn't work out what else can you do? Sometimes you can't have everything.

Does anyone else's husbands act as though their mc/pregnancy never happened? I am really finding it difficult how mine behaves! No matter how much I tell him how angry it makes me he swears he is upset by it and that he listens to me, but if I ever mention it I get off the cuff one word answers which infuriate me...I need to talk about it at times, and I certainly can not forget it. It's getting to the point where I can't stand to be around him! This is so shit I feel like my whole world is crashing down around me this year and that it's just gonna be me and the dog by the end of the year! Arghhhhhh!!

carly maybe he just finds it hard to talk about? I know my DH doesn't really like talking about it, it's not that he doesn't feel the loss or care about what happened, he just prefers to 'get on with it' IYSWIM. I think it's natural that we feel the loss more acutely, and we can't expect our partners to feel it quite the same. As long as he's supporting you and letting you talk and not trying to stop your natural reactions to all the shit that goes on after MC that's the main thing. You can't really tell someone how to grieve or place expectations on them to that effect.

sebs thanks for the sanity check. I might try temping next cycle. I've basically written this one off already. If I am OV now then the egg is going to be a shitter after only 10 days, surely.