TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

[Parsley2506]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

I've just had some really horrible news that has had me bawling my eyes out. My Mums ex colleague has just lost her baby and I am so devastated for her.

I used to ferry them about years ago so feel as though I know her if that makes sense and when I found out her and her husband were expecting I was over the moon for them as she has had a difficult time with her family and childhood and deserved some happiness. Unfortunately in the fifth month of her pregnancy she developed pre eclampsia and then eclampsia, she nearly lost her own life, needed a complete blood transfusion and her son was born by c section and obviously very premature.

There were so many photos on Facebook and updates and I genuinely thought he would make it. I found out today he died three days ago after seeing a memorial post regarding his funeral. That poor poor girl, she is still in hospital recovering herself and to now go through this, I am so so upset for her and just cannot believe how totally heart breaking TTC and pregnancy is, let alone then having a healthy baby and all the worry that goes with that.

My Mum thinks she will cope and she is very stoical by nature and a pragmatist. I just wonder if she is operating on autopilot currently and as the feelings of numbness subside the rawness will appear. I pray I am wrong and most normal people aren't as emotional as me.

I guess it's one of those situations that put my 6 week loss into perspective. I know comparisons are futile but I really feel as though I should just STFU and recognise just how fortunate I am.

Parsley I don't feel I am placing expectations on him, I feel as though he doesn't care. He never wants to talk about it and just gives me one word answers in that 'oh here she goes again' tone if I ever get upset or talk about. I feel so isolated and I just wanna be over this, but instead I now feel like I am loosing my relationship!

Sebs how awful, there Apis always a story sadder than our own isn't there? I really hope your friend comes through the other side and not only her physical but her emotional recovery is as easy as it can be...why do all these bad things happen to good people? I really don't understand xx

Seb, so sorry for her loss. Awful news.

Carly, my DH hasn't kept track of my pregnancies so was slightly shocked when I reminded him how many times it's been!

Hippo, the only mc I've charted (my7wk one); taking day one of bleeding as CD1, I stopped bleeding CD10 & ov-ed CD22, bfp cd31. No help at all but fingers crossed GP has answers, is it possible at some point the bleeding has become your period?

Otters, my period started as I was getting out of the bath, ready for sex, on the first night of honeymoon.

HELP! I haven't bled for a few days but woke up about half an hour ago, thinking I'd peed myself - got out of bed to see a faint but large blood puddle on sheet/mattress then felt that oh so common gush. Rushed to the loo and have passed blood clots the size of two palms!!! WTAF is going on? Would you be going back to hospital?

Btw it's five weeks today since my mc (and incidentally our four year wedding anniversary!)

Oh broody I think I honestly would go see someone. I've been having the on off bleeding like you but no big blood clots like that.
You must be so frustrated not knowing what's going on all the time

broody I'd get myself checked out too, call the epu this morning and ask them what's best (or your doctors if they're good)
hippo I'd also be getting checked out if I'd been bleeding as long as you.
I hope both you ladies get seen quickly and have your minds put at ease a bit

sebs awful news :( I too hope she's able to get through this as best as a person can :( can't imagine how heart broken she must be

What a terribly sad story sebs, I hope your mum's right and she recovers emotionally and physically as quickly as anyone could.

I echo the others broody, I'd call the EPU.

carly, I'm so sorry your relationship is rocky as well as all the TTC crap you're dealing with. If you are starting to question the relationship, maybe you should talk to him about some sort of joint counselling? I know it seems a drastic step, but it might be worth a mediator if it's coming to that.

I know it's silly but I had one of those horrible, hyper-realistic dreams last night that I had cancer. I woke up with a strong recognition that it could all be so much worse.

Hi all been lurking but not posting lately.

Broody that must have been scary to wake up to. I would definitely go back to hospital and get checked out. Hope you are seen quickly.

Sebs what awful news. So sorry for her loss .

Thanks,
Have GP appointment tomorrow. Will ask for a referral probably. I don't think things have been right since the first miscarriage last September. After that one I was scanned and told it had completed and then passed a huge clot a month later with a massive flood of bleeding bit like broody. Have been scanned this time and told its all fine but still bleeding and I really think something has been missed.

broody I second everyone else! I would get checked just for peace of mind :)

penguin hello :) how are you and your bean? Hope all is plodding along nicely :)

As for me today's a new day and things seem a little brighter :) DH seems in a better mood and I think it's just a case of going through a rough patch, which is probably made to seem worse with all this with the mc, I think I just need to accept that he isn't one of life's talkers and I know he would do anything to have our baby back just as much as I would , but doesn't feel upset daily about it like I do. He is away for a few days from Sunday and I am on Easter hols so I think a bit of a break and some me time will do us both the world of good :)

Just spoke to epu. Lovely nurse spoke to me and was reassuring. She said it is very likely the start of AF because it's been five weeks and that's quite a normal timescale after a natural mc. I have got some cramping so maybe tallies with that theory. She said to keep an eye on the bleeding - it's quite light now, just a little streak in the middle of the pad - and if it's very heavy or I'm in a lot of pain, call back.

Omg I hate this. I'm defo not going to be ttc for a while now, this is just too much. Lord only knows how you ladies who have had more than one of these bastard mc have the strength to carry on is beyond me.

Sebs that's awful! And probably one of my biggest fears. Give me 5 x 6 weekers over 1 x 5 monther. The poor girl. Sending kind thoughts her and your way.

Nice big temp rise here meaning a lovely textbook day14 ovulation. My god it's painful this month. I find OV pain worse than AF pain sometimes. Does anyone else? In my little mind I like to think its my ovaries machine gunning a couple of massive healthy eggs down the shoot in an attempt to face plant into some swimmers!

I know it only takes one but I feel like it crept up a couple of days early this cycle so we've managed 3 bonks in the 4 days before and on OV day. Will try and crack another one out tonight as I still feel like I'm laying another egg with these sharp pains!!

Hi ladies,

Sebs, how very very sad. I hope she comes through it all ok.

Broody, glad the epu were reassuring. It does sound scary so you're entitled to a bit of a freak out! But good to know they thought it was a 'normal' thing whatever normal is

I'm still hanging in there at the moment, but I have had some spotting the last day or so so feeling a little uneasy, as I had this last time, although a few weeks further on than I (probably) am now. Fx it's just a breakthrough bleed. Saw the GP yesterday who said it was too early in the pregnancy to refer me to EPU and told me to wait at least 2 more weeks. She also uttered the dreaded line "if you do miscarry again, at least you know you can get pregnant". She wasn't my usual GP and I won't be going back to her, she didnt seem very clued up on MCs and was far too chipper for my liking!

Cakes I am at your GP. How about acknowledging your very real fears and offering some comfort or understanding? Really sorry you're spotting and that you had to deal with that GP into the bargain. It may be nothing but I know how scary it must be.

Had a bit of a melt-down this morning. My symptoms are declining in an all too familiar way. Sore boobs, faintness, aversion to even decaf coffee all gone. Trying not to give up hope but feel like history may be repeating itself

cakes that is absolutely appalling of your GP! I started a thread a few weeks back of ridiculously unhelpful things people say when they find out you've mc and it's shocking what some people say. I know most people don't understand the pain emotionally and just don't know what to say so they say something, anything, that they think could be reassuring or kind without understanding how it can be upsetting. A GP should know much better though. You know me, I'd have put a complaint in already!

It's very tempting broody! She certainly needs some training! I wanted to slap that 'aww poor you' look off her face by the end!

Cakes and penguin I have my fingers crossed for both of you that everything will be ok

Sebs that's terrible and does put things in perspective. I hope her and her family will be ok.

I have got myself all excited by a huge temp rise at 10 dpo. However, I did have a glass or two of wine last night which can raise bbt so i need to get over it. I will poas tmrw, but ultimately I'll be happy if my lp lengthens. It's already one day more than last time so going in right direction. Anyone else planning to poas tmrw?

Broody glad you managed to talk to the EPU, hopefully this is your period and nothing more sinister. Sounds pretty scary with the huge clots.

hippo I hope you get some answers from your GP tomorrow, it seems like a long time to bleed.

sebs so sorry to hear about your mum's colleague, that's just awful. As terrible as mc is, I think to give birth and then have a baby or child die must be so much worse.

Cakes and Penguin I have everything crossed for you that the spotting and lack of symptoms aren't anything to worry about. I can imagine how hard it must be though not to panic. And I can't believe your GP said that Cakes, I would be inclined to make a complaint as well! What a moron.

Fx for you tomorrow Lacey!

As for me, I got a very strong line on the IC opk today and am almost dripping with cm (sorry TMI!). Clearblue still didn't show me a smiley face but it means I should ov in the next day or two.

However, I've now completely got my knickers in a twist over whether to skip this month or not as I had my interview yesterday and I think it went quite well. If I got the job, and if I got pregnant now, I'd only be there for about 8 months and would have to get my head around all the new stuff while possibly feeling sick very day. It would also give me a due date of Xmas Day, which I really don't like! I know that's an awful lot of if's but I just can't decide what to do. Gah!

God cakes what a cow! She really does need some training. Really hope that for both you and penguin this is just a blip and all is well with both, got everything crossed for you x

Morning Ladies,

Sebs... that poor lady. I can't imagine ever going through that and coming out the other side. I hope she's got some support around her.

Cakes and Penguin - fingers and toes crossed for you here. Can't believe what your gp said. Insensitive bitch. I think I was really lucky with my gp when I went, she was pregnant herself so was really emphatic.

Broody - hope this is just af. And that she buggers off soon!!

Metal - I think you have to do what feels right for you. Take the job and roll with it. Fingers crossed for you.

No news here.... twiddles thumbs

Metalhead when I was offed my new job last week I was convinced I was going to get a bfp a few days later. Like, properly convinced. I didn't, and I've decided that I can't let ttc rule my life. But that's just my feelings, coloured by over two years of trying for my first. Do what feels right for you

Sebs That's such a sad story. My best friend's sister lost her second child during labour and I really don't know how she copes. Women are so strong, even if we sometimes don't feel that way

GPs can really be a bit crap can't they cakes. I saw a new GP a couple of weeks after my mmc who hadn't bothered to read my notes. She asked if I was pregnant . Then said something along the lines of 'oh, well some women just can't carry babies to term easily' . I told her she was an insensitive f**k and walked out of the room and logged a complaint there and then.

CD2 for me today and AF is killing me. Clomid starts again tonight. Woo-bloody-woo.

Otters - Hope you don't mind me asking but... Did your gp put you on clomid or was that after a referral to fertility clinic? I'm thinking that clomid could be a route for me if I continue on this weird anovulatory path. And I've read most people are on it for 6 months, what is the next plan of action for you? Obviously I hope this month you get your sticky bean and you don't need to go there.

English I was prescribed it by the fertility clinic. I was referred to the fertility clinic by my GP after not getting my periods back after a year of coming off contraception. At my first FC appointment they sent me away for a couple of months where I had to provide weekly pee samples which 'proved' I wasn't ovulating. I had other tests, hcg, bloods etc which all came back normal.

The FC put me on Clomid for an initial 6 months, after 5 months I got my bfp. After my mmc I went back to the FC who told me to start the Clomid again for a further 7 months as protocol there is that as long as you respond to the Clomid (i.e ovulate) then you try it for 12 months in total.

I have 3 more shots left with Clomid. If I don't get upduffed by the end of that then they will move me onto Gonal-f injections, again to induce ovulation. I get 6 months of injections then it's IUI or IVF. I need to argue for them to put me on the waiting lists for these at my next FC in May.

It's exhausting and I'm fed up to be honest. But, the Clomid does work for me. I've ovulated every time with it.

God, that sounds like a battle and a half! Thanks for sharing (sorry if i came across like a nosey mare). You must be so frustrated by it all.I really hope that you don't need to move on to the injections. It's all such a long path.