TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

[Parsley2506]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Great choice otters! That'll be fab - and just 3 days after our wedding anniversary, hope you get as good weather as we did.

Yep, I've been going with that approach too. Trying to abstain during the week as I just can't sit at a computer all day with a hangover, but chilling out over the weekends. Limit myself to one or two usually during the 2ww though. I started off Nazi-style banning it, but it just stressed me out. It's been so long I couldn't have been teetotal for all this time! Plus I reckon you're off the booze for a year once it happens, so might as well enjoy it now

5dpo and the boob-poking has commenced. Right boob yielding better results than the left. Bored of the 2ww (or 1.5ww as it is in my case) already!

broody exactly the same as you, my dd was conceived over a booze-filled weekend celebrating our wedding anniversary definitely something to be said for relaxing, but must learn how to do it better without the aid of booze!

otters brilliant, nothing like a wedding to ensure some duffedupness! Fingers crossed.

So I've begun the messy business of cyclogest... cd21 until cd28 unless bfp, then carry on. it really is nasty stuff. Just having a horizontal life break so that it doesn't fall out...
Otters, v exciting about wedding plans. I hope everyone else is doing OK? Tanny, hope work wasn't too awful.

A question for all the ladies who've had an erpc....how long did you bleed for afterwards if you don't mind me asking? It'll be 2 weeks on weds since mine and I have this annoying brown quite mucousy discharge (sorry tmi), not loads but enough to need a panty liner. Is this going to go on for weeks? I was told to expect 'bleeding for a couple of weeks' but they were vague about what kind and what I should do if it carried on longer. I have no pain or cramping and am well in myself. Thanks.

just good luck with the cyclogest. Is it a pessary?

cake at 2 weeks with mc2 I was still getting this browny stuff and have needed a liner. With mc1 I never got this. So every time it can be different.

Ladies I have a related question too. I am nearly 3 weeks now since my natural mc started. I had bleeding for one week ad then the browny mucousy stuff for last 2 wks. Now started pinkish bleed again. I took a pg test out of curiousity and that is still positive!! In fact a stronger positive than I had when I was actually pg. The line is so €#

triple my mc was at 12 weeks, four and a bit weeks ago. My bleeding was heavy to start with but petered out after two weeks, then stopped and started with clots. Now, annoyingly I seem to be having AF every few days (not consistent bleeding but a bleed in the morning then nothing until two mornings later, for example). I think gail had the same? Anyway I only got my bfn last week so it certainly took its time. Maybe your body is hanging on to those hormones for just a bit longer too. Absolute pisser isn't it? It's like a big fat reminder every time you poas wishing for that bfn.

triple when I had a mc at 6 weeks last yr I got a negative after a week, but with my recent mmc (baby stopped at 6 wks, mc naturally at 11+4 I still got a positive 2 weeks later. So basically it's a waiting game. In your shoes I would test again in a week and if still +ve, go to GP or ring EPU for advice. Did you have a scan after your mc? The nurse I saw at EPU said I could still get a positive result for "a few weeks" after the mc, a bit vague but it seems pretty much everything is "normal" after mc!
Tanny I hope your first day back was okay and not too stressful. It must be really hard going back after such a long time, I hope your colleagues are supportive.

Thanks office and broody. Yes I imagined that it would be like my last mc and so didn't even bother testing for a bfn. Didn't realise it could actually take so long. Give that it is not an anomaly not to have had a bfn yet, I will wait for another week then. If the line is not lighter by then, then I will probably go visit the EPU. I did have as can 1.5 wks ago and they said mc was complete.

tanny hope your first day back was manageable. I found it very difficult to cope initially. Hope you have had a decent day given the circumstances. Are you seeing prof Q since you are ovulating now.

Just popping by to see if tanny has checked in. I hope you had a bearable day - I only managed half a day my first day back, so take it easy on yourself if you're struggling (which I hope you're not)

triple I don't think our hormones follow the rules, if you haven't had a follow up scan then I guess it might be worth popping to EPU to see if they can do one, although I think their general line is 6-8 weeks to 'recover'

I hope everyone is ok this eve. We just booked our holiday to Mauritius in September, cannot fecking wait!

Triple it took ages for my hpts to go negative. 5/6 weeks maybe? I have no idea why it took so long but i was still getting a faint positive even after my first AF. Although saying that i was using those internet strips that give crazy evap lines, so maybe there were just messing with me. They certainly weren't a strong positive though!!

Any chance this could be a new pregnancy?

Congrats on the wedding plans, otters!

Tanny, hope your first day back was ok.

Cake, I'm 2 weeks post-erpc tomorrow and getting the brown mucousy stuff you describe. Did hpt on Sat that was still faint positive, tempted to do another one tomorrow - so desperate for a bfn so I can feel like my body is getting back to normal!

Thanks all. Jet it's so bloody frustrating isn't it? Like you say just want some sort of normality back, I don't see how you're meant to try and start moving on while all this physical stuff is going on. Grrrrr.

Triple it seems odd that you're getting stronger positives now, are you using a different brand of test, or did you only test when you first got your BFP when your hormone levels were still really low? I think I would ring your GP or EPU just to see what they say. It almost sounds like a new pregnancy, though if you're only 3 weeks post mc I'm not quite sure how that would work... it took me about 3 weeks to get a BFN but the lines were very faint after about 2 weeks.

thanks, metal sebs parsley I used frer at 14dpo and it was really light. Tested with cb digi after that so when I say darker line, then I am comparing yesterday's test using frer with the one from 14dpo. But it's still bizarre.

yes it can't be a new pregnancy as its probably too soon. We did dtd about 9 days ago but only once and even then -tmi alert- didn't really finish off as DS woke up and started calling for us!

I will wait and see this week. Maybe test again over the weekend and decide if a trip to GP/ EPU is warranted. Hope the line gets lighter.

Well girls my CBFM has given me low for the last three days and yet I have stupid amounts of EWCM! Really weird.

I don't know whether the monitor is likely to just jump to peak or something but we have been BDing every other day and then will go at it like mad people Friday/Saturday which should be just before OV.

I find I get EWCM for five days before OV. I assume it's just to enable the sperm to maybe hang about for longer? I don't understand why we get EWCM so far away from OV if it's purpose is to help the sperm swim to the egg.

I guess I have little faith in EWCM as the months I fell pregnant I didn't get much at all.

Sebs I think that's right - I have it a few days then the ov pain stops so definitely in the build up. Still no clue what's happening here guess that's why they call it the wtf cycle. Tried an opk again today and for the first time got a line, but still fainter than control. Guess I did ov a while ago if indeed at all. Would like AF to show, never thought I'd say so.

In that case Triple I guess it could be that your hormone levels are just taking a long time to come down and could still be higher than when you first tested, hence the stronger line. Fx it will get lighter soon.

sebs I think ewcm also helps the sperm live longer? So that would make sense to get it a few days before ov, to make sure there are as many of the little swimmers as possible ready to pounce.

I had a little bit of ewcm yesterday but still no +opk, hopefully will get one by the weekend though.

Thanks everyone. Unfortunately I didn't last long in work yesterday. I had a meeting with my manager to do my return to work thing and discuss phased return etc. He took one look at me and asked if I was ready to be back. Cue big blub. So we talked it through and I decided that I need more time to get stronger.

So I came home.

Part of me knows it is the right thing to do, but I still feel like a bit of a fuck up.

My job and work are very important to me, and something I'm really passionate about, but I have to be at full strength to do it justice.

I've done loads of "work" on myself, but am still a bit of a wuss.

Seasides I'll message you. They sound really useful.

Parsley thanks for thinking of me.

Triple I've never had long lasting hcg levels. Mine always seem to plummet like a stone. I'm assuming they'll start to come down soon, but I think a visit to your Dr sounds sensible.
I had a nice letter from my consultant yesterday about my last mc and next blood test. Well, I say nice, but it was really just less dismissive and seems to be taking the APS possibility a bit more seriously.

So, back to my GP for another sick note, and back to keeping house and watching old episodes of One Born on 4od...

Yes I guess that does make sense actually. Your body tries to maximise chances by helping older sperm live as long as possible.

Triple - could concentration of urine be playing a part I wonder?

Tanny - really sorry chick . It sounds as though your employers are sympathetic which must be a huge help. I totally understand what you are saying about the need to feel fully strong to do your job.

Although I'm a SAHM at the moment I find my sadness has really dampened down my creativity. I have no enthusiasm for the things that would normally get my juices flowing. I suspect it's depression in my case.

tanny sorry to hear you're having such a rough time but glad your employers sound sympathetic and definitely the right thing to take some more time. Don't suppose there's a chance of a night or two away somewhere? Sometimes a change is as good as a rest they say.

I'm thinking that it might be worth a try so I'm buggering off to a spa in couple of weekends time - I'm really not a spa person but just felt a change might be good, just a weekend to catch up with a friend and do lots of walks while dh takes care of dd. i haven't left dd for a night yet but feel it' said good time too. I feel like you sebs, I'm a sahm at the moment and I'm scared my sadness will rub off on dd. I'm trying to be busy for her and also have started trying to right a list of mini things to do over the next few months, nothing dramatic but just simple projects that I hope will give me something else to think about. Here's hoping.

Sebs after what you've been through, you will be experiencing depression symptoms. It's natural and part of the grieving and healing process. It will pass I'm sure. I think it's possibly harder to recover quickly when we are at home as we don't have the same distractions as at work.

Things will get better for both of us. All of us.

Apologies for typos and spelling! Clearly my brain is frazzled by all this as well as my body

Sorry to hear your return to work didn't go as planned tanny Sounds like you have very supportive employees so take time and look after yourself. You have been through a hell of a lot.

Been for my day 1 tests today. My day 21 (done on day 23 due to my cycle length) showed progesterone levels of 37.4. Does anyone know what this means? It said on screen that >30 shows an ovulatory cycle which is good I guess. I diagnosed myself (in conjunction with dr google) with low progesterone due to sore boobs from ov, spotting prior to af and rubbish light af