Drop all things contraband, we don't want you're OPK's here. Grab a cape, stroke the unicorn and reserve your spot in the pity Jacuzzi...It's JUST SHAGGING THREAD 21!!

[lil1ady]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 20 is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1961521-You-can-do-it-by-charting-analysing-testing-and-worrying-but-we-prefer-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-20?" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="//www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

Lotsa I got my bfp at 9dpo in the evening! POAS!!

Morning viroids!

ERTD this morning. A shame but at least now we can get back on it, going on holiday next week so will put in some serious effort husband will be delighted :-D

Hope everyone has a happy Monday!

I hate to ask silly questions, but what's dpo?

I'll POAS my next wee then, I'm just popping to the shops so will no doubt be desperate by the time I'm trying to unlock front door. Although, little but worried about it being too early.

Days past ovulation :) good luck!

Thanks lalanic, In that case I'm pretty sure I'm around 15 dpo

Bad luck iala :-(

Fx Lotsa!

I am commencing my TWOT...

That's good it's come at last Lala. Nothing worse than waiting.
Fx for you later Lotsa.

So I did mine and there is still a really faint line. I looked it up and apparently it's really common as it takes a while for the hormones to return to normal. But now I'm annoyed that she told me to do it because if it's pretty common to get a positive result when you're no longer pregnant - what's the point in doing the test?! Was kind of hoping I could just draw a line under it all today. I should probably just test again in a couple of days?

Am I imagining a very faint line?

Not a good picture sorry

Are you going anywhere nice lala?

wil hugs and for you. I would leave it a week or so before you test again. it must be hard and strange waiting for a bfn when you should be been counting weeks pg.

lotsa take a pic and put it on nessas favourite website...can you see a line.com or something like that! then link it here and we can all imagine with you!
re the fmu I think if u pee at 4am and then not again for at least 4hrs that would be OK and have built up concentration again. but I'm no expert in bfps, just bfns!

Ok will try that website now. But then I would have had to have waited till 8. DS got up at 6, so had no hope.

Back in a bit

So, I've just rang the docs for my blood test results and yep. They want me to go in. They say my thyroid results were fine but it's the gonadotropin results which need discussing.
So it's me.
I'm broken.
And I have no idea to what extent.
Crap.

min try and stay calm. you're not "broken". if there is something wrong you will be on the way to getting it fixed. it could be as simple as a course of anti biotics. please don't worry until you know more. when are you going in? can you Dr to phone any sooner?

lil they won't say over the phone so could only get in Thursday,I must stay away from Dr Goofle. He will only tell me I don't ovulate, have ovarian cysts or tumours and will suffer a lifelong childless existence.

I freaking knew there was something wrong with me, I knew it.
I can't have all these symptoms every bloody month and it be completely normal.
Gah.

Min that's shit but Lil is right, you need to chat to the doctor and find out what's wrong and DEFINITELY stay away from Dr Goofle. You're not broken.

What do you think Lotsa? I can't really make out a line on the photo but doesn't mean it's not there on the actual stick. Is DP/DH there so you can ask him?

Thanks Lil, I'll do that. Phoned up and cancelled my booking app and scan app anyway so at least that's done. And it looks as if the sun is shining so onwards and upwards.

Thanks girls, it's so comforting knowing there's people we can chat to about it all. It really is a tonic.
wil how are you feeling today? I hope you are feeling better, I'm still sending my love to you x

No DH is at work unfortunately but will do first response one before he leaves tomorrow morning

Lotsa if I zoom in I can see the line. Get a first response or superdrug if you can they are better than blue die tests. Eeeek exciting!

Inlaws should be here soon to take the boys for the day. I should be doing something useful but im going to watch crap tv and eat crap.

Morning everyone

Sorry to hear ERTD got you Lala but at least the waiting is over and you have a fresh new cycle to focus on.

Lotsa post your pic on www.canyouseealine.com/ then post the link so we can all vote!

Wil sorry you're still going through a hard time with it all, must be hard for you seeing a line and waiting for the BFP to go away. I'd test in a couple of days, just to be sure for you.

Min we're here for you to rant to. Sorry you've had a worrying result, it's a blow, but this really is a positive step. Up until now, you still had the issue (whatever issue it is) that was affecting your chances of conception, but you didn't know about it. Now you do know about it, and the Drs are going to help you do something about it. So you're in a much better position today than you were yesterday. It might be something as simple as giving you a hormone boost and you'll be on your way.

I think it's far better to identify an issue, than to spend years ttc with 'unexplained infertility'. If you know what the problem is, you can fix it.

But I'm with you on knowing how it feels to think you're 'broken'. I spent so long focussing on DPs Vas reversal, worrying about his fertility. Now he's back to normal, it transpires that I may not be as normal as I thought. I'm still waiting for investigations to confirm endometriosis (I'm bloody convinced that's what it is), the pain is getting worse and I can't help but worry about what that is doing to my ovaries and tubes. It's shit.

As for this month... hah I think I'm ovulating today. Managed to DTD yesterday morning, but when we got to bed last night, I was so knackered and half asleep. I thought "I really should make the effort" then thought sod it, no point doing it if you really don't feel well enough. So if I conceive this month it will be a miracle.

STILL haven't heard about the job... the interview panel aren't all in the office together until tomorrow. It's spectacularly bad planning of them to not factor in time to make a decision in my opinion. Either that or they're sadists who are enjoying making me suffer.....

mich you we our very own JSing wise owl. Thank you. I know you're right. I too would much rather identify the root of the problem than have it unexplained, it was just I was pinning my hopes on it being cause I was so far away at the crucial time of the month.
Evidently not eh? Anywho it's finally moving along and THAT is what I should be focusing on now yes!

I think the interview panel are sadists. They always are. It must be some sort of bloody power trip for them. Much like the £5 an hour airport security, ie those who can police, go to the airport etc.
The buggers they are.

Thanks min and Mich. I felt quite positive this morning but after a catalogue of errors so far today, I'm a bit down in the dumps. Think I might go for a snooze when the wee one does.

Enjoy the crap tv fest something

That is so crap about the interview panel. They should have made it a priority. Arses. It must be driving you nuts. If you managed to get your cape on yesterday morning, that could be all you need Mich. New job and BFP in the same month! [Wink]

It's always easy to be wise about someone else's problem, easier to see things clearly from a distance across the internet my DP calls me a 'Wise Old Buzzard' flattering

I think you often being away at the crucial time of the month must be part of the issue - I suppose if your fertility is slightly lower for some medical reason, then also not being able to try every single month must be a contributing factor. So if they can fix or help the medical factor somehow, and you can work on JSing at the right time... then both things together should help a lot.

Well I take back everything I said about the sadistic interview panel... because... I got the job!!! I am so, so, so pleased. This is literally my dream job, something I've always dreamed of doing. I trained for this, and was determined to do it, but my career took a different turn and led me down a different path for a few years. It has always been a source of hurt and regret that I'm not doing the job I always wanted to do....to be honest it has got me down in recent years. So to finally turn that around, and finally get to where I've always wanted to be is quite overwhelming!

My DM's reaction was "Well you know what will happen now don't you.. You'll get pregnant!". Sod's law and all that - but would be a nice problem to have eh!

Sorry, last comment re being away etc was for Min

Wil - take a rest, you deserve it and your body needs it. Have some and while you're at it.

Sorry you're down in the dumps. You need to let yourself have time to feel sad. xx

Congrats Mich! Awesome news!

Maybe you should try JSing in those boots.... ;-)