Come one, Come All! Join the BESH on the Carousel of Cuntishness! Prize for spinning off the side is of course your very own BAYBEE! Pay your fare, pick a horse and hold on tight!

[MissHobart]

Which horse did you choose? Hope it's a good one as it might be a bumpy ride!

Are you BESH enough? Dig out the infamous BESHtionnaire and proffer your soul for judgement! No tweeness or baby dust allowed, If you're easily offended fuck off!

Yes, tis quiet - lots of us in waiting mode, I guess.

I've been taking HRT for about 5 days now. Not too bad with the side effects - hot flushes seem to have subsided and my only problem is a chinful of spots... Am trying to get off my arse do more exercise to get the blood moving to the womble area. Oh and eating rare steak - there's gotta be some compensations, right?

Very quiet Miss H; we're all waiting for England, tis arduous in its own way yet horrendously dull. I'm currently on three NHS lists waiting to see a menopause specialist, a cancer screening expert and for an egg donor for IVF. That's not depressing then. What has my life become

Glad the hot flushes have subsided Fizzy.

Bloody hell Cherry! there are no words for all that shit piled on you right now.

T'is a bit quiet on here...maybe that's a good thing. Thanks to everyone for their iui advice. Still don't know what to do as don't know if my age means I should to straight for IVF or if I've got time to try a couple of iui's. I do feel I might need to work up to IVF as it sound like a much bigger deal.

I got a positive opk yesterday (day13) so can you tell what we are up to this weekend?

Hi all!

This weekend I shall mostly be shopping for fat girl clothes as I am now far too fat for my normal clothes but mat clothes are like tents on me. I had no idea the inbetween "is she fat or is she pregnant" stage could go on for so long (10+ weeks now, as I was horribly bloated pretty much from BFP). I don't particularly like shopping so having to go and get stuff that is only going to fit me for a few weeks is annoying, but I don't have much choice.

And we might try to potter in the garden and see mummyeuro who is still quite poorly. She's in a lot of pain from the wires in her arm as that heals, plus she now has a DVT in her leg because the nurses didn't read her notes and did her blood pressure in the leg where she had a massive DVT after one of her cancer ops. Grrr.

The fat girl stage sounds a bit awkward Euro but it did make me chuckle. I've never really thought about the inbetweenie stage. Feeling your pain with the shopping thing though, especially when its unlikely to be for clothes you feel good in.

Poor mummyeuro is really going through it at the moment. Grrr indeed to the ignorance of the nurses. I'm sure she'd appreciate a little visit to cheer her up.

Go to it Fankle and hoping it's a lucky shag for you. I guess only you can make the IUI/IVF decision if the impossible happens and this isn't your month. As someone who is hellish impatient and wants everything yesterday and so is unbearably bad at waiting I'd go straight for the big guns. But I think the universe is trying to teach me something. Can you ever get good at waiting?

Good luck for Monday, bugs. Crossing my fingers that you see a nice wriggly bean on the scan.

euro hope your mum is on the mend soon. Poorly thing, she's been through a lot lately. I have a nice selection of jersey dresses that are already doing service for 'bloated by ivf' stage. Have you told people about being updiffed?

fankle giddy up girl! Have the clinic expressed a view on iui or ivf?

cherry feel for you with the waiting. I don't think the Universe gives a bollock about all this - it's just a really shit unfair situation.

Off tonight for dinner with friends, one of whom is updiffed and apparently moaning about it constantly. Wish me luck!

Good Luck! I've just had an afternoon with an upduffed, was ok but they had a photo frame on the mantlepiece of "baby's 1st and 2nd scans" &

cherry you really do have a lot to deal with at the moment. You seem to be coping very well, but it must get on top of you sometimes.

I'd never given any thought to this stage either, but as my usual style is closely fitted separates, not having a waist anymore ruled out most of my normal clothes very early on! I managed to pick up a few bits anyway.

KFZK dutifully trailed around after me. One funny interlude came as I tried on half of the maternity wear in Mothercare. There was one chair outside the changing rooms. He plonked himself on it. There were only 2 changing rooms and by the time I came out, there was a long queue. As we walked out I said I was surprised none of the queue of preggos wanted to sit. He went beetroot coloured and said he had been dicking around on his phone and hadn't thought to offer.... He's normally quite well trained and so was mortified and wanted to go back to apologise to the whole queue... Heh. Twonk.

missh that sounds sickening. I'd need a multiframe as I've had 5 scans already due to the menkul....

Good luck for Monday, bugs.

fankle I hope you are enjoying your horizontal weekend. We haven't dtd since November (since then we have had the IVF cycle, the long bleed, travel and KFZK's manflu). I have neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds. Harrumph.

Morning hags! Just quickly popping by, before starting the work I ought to have done on Friday...

Massive good luck on Monday bugs.

Handing over the plaice of patience to cherry and others. Waiting just sucks and that many and those types of specialists in particular.

My fat stage started at 14 weeks and lasted til 22, euro. I found some of the under bump trousers worked well til they started falling down when I didn't eat for a while over Christmas.

Oh Hags, I got the manflu! Feel like shit today, but still managed the sechs Friday night and last night, so that's good. Went out for steak and wine last night...taste buds weren't too compromised at that point, thank God. Now I'm just a snotty, sneezy mess. Attractive!

Here's one for you: this is the first cold I've had since my miscarriage 2 years ago. I used to get colds all the time before that. So I'm now wondering if somehow my miscarriage boosted my immune system so much that I never got ill? Does that make sense? I don't know if that can be possible, but if so, is that why there's been no diffment? So is this current manflu a sign that my immune system has finally crashed...and I can then get diffed? Or am I a total nutter for thinking like this?

Fizzy- got my appointment at clinic tomorrow. No views either way have been expressed so far but I recently spoke to a kindly ex-gynecologist/FC as part of an information evening organised by a local infertility trust. He said to try iui first.
I guess we will discuss tomorrow with my FC. I think I'd give iui a go but then move to IVF if it didn't work.

Bugs- good luck for tomorrow! You're practically 9 weeks so it's v promising surely.

Euro- get it sorted out love! If I can shag with manflu so can Monsieur Euro! And try to embrace this chunky stage. Easy for me to say I know but it's only temporary and it's worth it.

Sorry about the snottyness, fankle, but well done for powering through. We BESH will shag through anything in our quest to win a baybee - in-laws next door, horrid colds, jet lag etc. Didn't someone jump her other half even though he had broken an ankle or something?

Good luck at the clinic tomorrow. Hope you can get cracking soon - or that your cold is an augur of good things. I am confused about immune ishoos, and haven't frantically googled researched it like I have other areas. From what I can gather medical opinion is split on it Anecdotally, my good friend who had an ivf win was famous for never being ill, and had a cold in the run up to her successful FET. So on the strength of one person I think there may be something in it.

Last night turned out to be fine. Not too much baybee chat, partly because preggo friend is still a bit 'wtf have I done' about it all. I did nearly vom into my starter at some bump-patting though.

Sunny day here so I'm getting my vitamin d levels up! Hope it's the same for you other hags.

Hurrah for the sunshine! Glad your night out wasn't too awful Fizzy. BESH are great at just dealing with diffed friends- I have noticed that in previous comments. I'm seeing one of my diffed friends at the end of the month so I will carry the spirit of the BESH with me in the run up to that.

And hooray for your friend's successful FET during a snot fest. I swear MG thinks I am mad for being relieved to have a cold! But I am! Anyway we managed another round this morning- but 'just for fun' in his words. Bless. I do think they feel a bit used during ov and notice he isn't as 'into it' when shagging is dictated by a piss stick.

fankle, good work!
bugs, thinking of you today. Really hope you get a lovely reassuring result.

missH: framed scans . . . huuuurk

I've been very poorly owing to MrC bringing back a V&D virus from a recent business trip : 24 hours of throwing up on the loo and not eating anything. Better today but my breasts are hardly sore at all (they've been tender and swelling every day for the last 5 weeks). The virus shouldn't have damaged the Grub, but it was about this time last time that the MMC happened. So obviously sad and wondering whether I've lost another one.

I'll be making a doc's apt today and trying to get an early scan. Hopefully they can book it within the next fortnight, as Mr C is on jury duty after that and won't be able to come with me.

Suppose I'd better start thinking about how I'm going to cope if it's bad news. bugs, I like your approach. I will think of things MrC and I can do together if it is. Perhaps a weekend away. Plus there's shitloads to do in the garden, which always calms me down.

I just can't help feeling that I should have more symptoms. I know 25% of women don't, and I've even got a friend who had no symptoms with either of hers, but honestly it makes me feel so wobbly

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE

Can't get a GP apt until 26th.

When did this start happening? Exactly how many conditions are there for which you can wait A WEEK AND A HALF to see someone?

I am going to try and ring the midwife services here direct. Maybe they can refer me for a scan.

That is really shit.

I complain about having to pay to see the GP but it does mean it is easy to get appointments on the same day.

Midwives were lovely but can't refer me for an early scan - or rather they can 'suggest', but only GP can get me in for sure. They said I should try for an emergency apt: got one booked for 11:05 today.

No fucking sickness, symptom drop-off, early scan panic . . . hoped I'd never be back in this shitty situation again. It's making me want to cry

FOD, are you outside the UK? Or just got private healthcare? I'm hugely appreciative of the NHS, particularly after my last MC and the lovely care I got, but I have to admit I have moments when I think 'I wish I could afford to go private', cos I could get a same-day apt without feeling guilty about saying I'm an 'emergency', plus I wouldn't have to wrangle over 'non-essentials' like testing and early scans.

Thanks bugs, hopefully. I couldn't get my usual (fab) doc though, never seen this one before. Let's hope he's not an arse.

I had a private scan last time, at 7 weeks. I know, the reassurance doesn't last for long. Thing is, if I could see that this one was growing and developing as normal past 8 weeks, I'd at least feel it was better than the last time, and different.

Sense of dread is closing in.

I am in Guernsey. I would have no problems with declaring an emergency if I were in your position.

I miss the NHS so much. I resent having to pay to see a GP although we have private cover but it is just so expensive.

Oh, and the midwives are putting me down for 'consultant care', because of my three MCs. Anyone know what that means? Cheers

Cheers bugs. Sounds good.