Old birds wanna join the coop???

[Gingerbreadlady1]

Allo ladies! Wondering if there are any other over 35's (apparently the age of fertility suicide, who knew?) ttc for over a year wanting to chat? If so, pour yourself some virtual wine and let the chatting commence!

Mel, sorry for being so selfish - I missed your post altogether , so sorry that AF got you hun, she's a bitch - but good on ya for getting right back on that horse!! Definitely the right decision to get the OPKs in if your cycles are a bit all-over-the-place so at least you can make sure you catch OV!

DTD was interesting last night while I was frantically trying to scratch my arms and legs!! It wasn't the most romantic situation in the world so with all the negative (scratchy) vibes going on I'll be very surprised if we're successful!!

So just for you Ginger I've added a couple of pics of my cakes in the hope that no-one in RL recognizes them. Please note, I do this for enjoyment, I'm not very good!!! The Peppa Pig cake was for DD's birthday last year and I had to make all the characters out of sugarpaste that I'd had to colour to the exact shades.

Off to 'The Big Cake Show' at Westpoint Arena in Exeter tomorrow - looking forward to a presentation by Mary Berry - if I can stop bloody itching!!! LOL

Ahhh Inshock, don't give up hope yet. It's rubbish though when you get the initial signs of AF. Your heart just sinks like a stone doesn't it :-(. Keep your chin up hun. xxx

KEGirl good on you for persevering through the scratching! :) Hope it goes off soon.

and OMG your cakes are amazing! I'm a keen baker myself but they beat mine hands down!

kegirl you're cakes are absolutely fantastic! Thank you for sharing them, I looovvee food porn! You are talented.

We'll inshock I can sympathise, I was out with a friend last night who told me her partner (lesbians) is expecting their first child. Really delighted for them as you can imagine how much more diff its been for them (4 iui then ivf). Got back to my hotel to see I've started spotting. And bad cramps. AF is on the way . Gutted.

And it means I have luteal phase defect, great.

Oh Ginger that sucks. I would feel the same about your friends in your shoes. It's so hard, every time one of my friends announces a pregnancy I'm pleased for them but begrudge it at the same time. I'm meant to be out with friends this eve but I can't bear to listen to the ones who do have children moan about their kids and the once who don't talk about their plans to have them.

What is LP defect?

KEGirl Enjoy The Big Cake show! :)

That should read ones who don't...bloody autocorrect. :)

You should have at least 12 days between ov & AF to allow time for implantation. If the lining breaks down quicker then that (AF) not enough time for implantation therefore no preg=luteal phase defect.

Got appointment with fc next fri so at least can ask about it then. Think they can prescribe progesterone treatments to help. I know what you mean about avoiding some social situations. If you do go drink is my advice lol!

Aw no, Ginger. Do you think it's def AF? Could it not be implantation spotting? I don't really know when you can expect that..and not everyone gets it (I didn't with my bfp).

I hate this stage of the 2ww. I have sore boobs and some cramps/ twinges. I'm going away for a night on Saturday and I know I'll have to pack tampons as due on Sunday/Monday

It's natural to feel a bit envious of your friends but they clearly went through a lot and really want to have kids. Good on them. I've not even seen 2 of my good friends since they announced the pregnancies...and one of them has already given birth (but she lives far away so at least I have an excuse). The other friend lives much closer and is due in July...the longer I leave it, the harder it will get. Losing friends left, right and centre here!

I'm on crotch watch fankle but think its AF.

I am really pleased for them as I watched her for years get upset as one by one her friends got married & pregnant. They'll be fantastic parents. she understands how it can be bittersweet to hear of friends pregs, I love them both to death so am pleased. Just holding out for my turn!

Ginger I'm on crotch watch too! :) It's weird what this ttc stuff does to you, I've never been so obsessed with bodily functions. I didn't know about the LP defect, thanks for the heads up on that, I might fall in to that category so another thing to discuss with my GP next week. I'm trying to get as many tests done through the NHS as poss coz they're all so expensive if you have to go private.

Stay positive Fankle we need one BFP this month :)

Hey all,

Sorry Ginger, but don't give up yet. As for the LP Defect, I was temping when I found mine. So I knew that my temp was dipping on the same day that the spotting started. It would go back up again but not quite to the high temps that it was pre-spotting starting. So I went to the GP armed with this information.

He spoke to the FC who told him to prescribe me Progesterone. Made no difference at all to my spotting so I realized then that it wasn't a Progesterone problem. I tried it for 3 months and it was the same each time. Since the Lap & Dye, the spotting has eased off and I now don't get it until 10DPO (10 day LP is actually OK, it's anything under 10 that's a problem). But I don't think it has an impact on my LP anymore as mine is always old blood until about DPO13. Try not to worry too much but see if Progesterone can help in your case.

Fankle, I also lost a friend a couple of years ago because she gleefully announced her PG about a month after my MC having not been there for me through that. I haven't seen her since. I hope she's happy of course, but I just can't be around her.

So I went to the GP and he said it's Scabies!!!!!!. But I honestly don't think it can be. It's not in any of the obvious places (in between my fingers/toes, underarms etc) and DH and DD would have it if that's what it was!!! Plus you catch it from long-term skin contact with an infected person or by sexual contact with an infected person. As I said DH doesn't have it and the most skin contact I have (other than him) is with DD as I work from home on my own, so surely they would both have it or I would have had to have caught it from them!!! Very odd...

DH has got me some calamine lotion to use so I'm going to go down that route and see if it clears up itself if I don't itch it...

Good luck to gingerbread & inshock it's not over til it's over, keep positive x

kegirl you gotta love gps and the diagnosis they give sometimes. Hope you're feeling less itchy v soon.

We I've just started to get CM this morning but peed on an OV stick but nothing. Knew I shouldn't have bought them, it's another obsession isn't it! CD11 here. V stressed this month as both my mum and dad have tests at the hospital next week and my daughter had got to go for blood tests at the hospital as she's been getting lots of tummy aches lately. Need a break for illness for my family :(

Do any of you suffer from anxiety? Mine isn't great at the moment it has to be said x

Thanks everyone.

tranquility I usually get cm a day or 2 before ov so you could be gearing up! Test again later today but I'd still start dtd as wee spermies can live for up to 5 days in us. Ov prob on way which is great.

Sorry to hear about all the ill health in your family, I hope it's all okay. Remember to be kind to yourself as well as looking after everyone else x

Tranquility, as Ginger said, start now hun if you've got the CM because it does start a few days before you get the +ive OPK. I use the OPKs every day from about CD10. I'm on CD13 and had very faint lines yesterday and today (difficult to tell about EWCM because when you've been DTD that is left over aswell and it's quite difficult to tell the difference IYSWIM...)

I know all about ill-health though... We're waiting on blood tests for DD (she had to have 7) to try and determine why she's so small (in height). We are convinced it's genetic as even though DH and I are both 5ft 8, DH's Mum and Sister were both only 5ft (in heels!!). But they need to check that she doesn't have some undiagnosed problem. Trouble is it takes 8 weeks to get the results.

One of them is for Turners Syndrome which people often terminate for because it normally comes up on an Amnio. I had an Amnio but mine was clear so you'd think we'd be Ok, but nope, apparently it doesn't always show up - typical!!

Hope your parents tests and DD's blood tests all come back OK Tranquility. x

A tender text exchange between DP and I on Tuesday:

"Hello my lovely (lists the million things I achieved that day)- fancy coming over for some insemination?"

"It's a wonderful offer but are you sure you'll have the energy?"

"No worries, I'll just lie there like a dead whale and let you do all the work".

Romance is still alive and kicking in these parts, let me tell you .

Thanks ladies I really appreciate it. Off with dd this morning for the bloods.

I googled to see if any info on the One Step OV tests I have, general consensus is they're not v sensitive do I might just ditch them as they're stressing me out, so much so that that I didn't want to DTD last night as thought there was no point, kind of feel like someone's trying to tell me that this isn't a good time to be pregnant right now. :( sorry for the miserableness (is that a word?)

Kegirlonfire I really feel for you and I hope the resorts are back for your dd v soon and that all is ok. Limbo is a horrible place to be xxx

Happy Friday everyone ....just catching up on the thread after a couple of days hiding with AF pains! Almost back to normal then I can get back on the horse and try again. I am actually riding a real horse tomorrow as well......

Pmsl at "crotch watch" ginger!

Phone app says I should OV next weekend so I hope my opk thingies arrive soon from Amazon.

KEgirl get some Oilatum cream for the itching.....it's really good. It's not an antihistamine, you can get it in most chemists. They do a bath lotion and a shower gel as well. I use it as I get dry itchy skin and it works.

So what's everyone up to at the weekend then?

Lol stubborn!!!!

mel sounds like you have a lovely weekend planned, I'm working boooo!

Crotch watch continues.....

We used to call Baywatch "crotch watch" lol

Happy Friday!

KEGirl Scabies??? Isn't that a really old rarely heard of disease? Hope you're getting better and your daughters tests go well. My little niece has scoliosis and recently had an op to have metal rods inserted in to her spine, bless her she's got lots of ops in the future.

Tranquility Hope you and your family are ok too. I've suffered with anxiety in the past, at one stage it was so bad I had to quit a job because I was struggling to leave the house. Fortunately I pulled through it but I have so much sympathy for anyone who suffers with it, it's a bastard. I found when I spoke about it to other people they would then confide in me and admit they suffered with anxiety or depression. It's really important to look after yourself as well as looking after other people. My anxiety was started by my (now ex) boyfriend having a breakdown, I looked after him, he got better, I became ill, very common. Take time out for yourself and remember you can't solve everyone else's problems for them, you can support but you can't solve. x and it's a great time to be pregnant! It would be a little ray of sunshine :)

Stubborn That sounds like the conversations I have with DP, they normally finish with him telling me he feels used and he's not a piece of meat :)

Mel Enjoy your weekend! Apparently alcohol before OV doesn't count :)

I'll be crotch watching along with Ginger over the weekend, cd27 today, rather intrigued this month, had a few pre AF symptoms but they've disappeared....I'm sure they'll find me again.

If we have any lurkers on this thread or ladies who now have a BFP and occasionally pop on but don't post give us an update!

kegirl Wow, love your cakes! Hope you enjoyed the cake show.Also hope it's not scabies and it clears up soon.

inshock and Ginger....hope af stays away!

I am 5dpo, it's so dull waiting.

Hi Inshock I'm still lurking Lots of things being said on this thread that I don't feel I know enough about to comment on i.e. how it feels when friends announce their pregnancies. I've been lucky/blessed to have 3 DC, not to say I haven't been through the mill........my life has been a struggle in many ways (will tell you about it one day). I do feel for everyone and I'm always reading the posts even when I don't post for a few days.

Tranquility and KEGirl Hope all the tests go well, will be keeping my fx for you and your dd's, and your parents Tranquility.

Tranquility I suffer with anxiety and panic attacks and have done since the birth of my DS (10). It's horrible and something that never goes away but I've learned to deal with it day to day and I have strategies/coping mechanisms so can usually stave off a panic attack. Seems to be worse with PMS.

KEGirl How are the scabies??? I knew a woman who caught scabies whilst in Torbay Hospital having DC #2, was about 10 years ago though.

Your cakes are amazing btw.

Stubborn who said romance was dead!!?

I started seeing a Chiropractor (sp?) last week in a bid to combat the imminent spd as last time was on crutches it was so bad, so we'll see how it goes.
Nausea starting to kick in now, was nearly sick yesterday morning just because I looked in the fridge and saw some mashed potato that DH had put in there from previous night I love mash normally.

Bit the bullet and arranged my booking appt with MW. Going to sign in with a false name but one of colleagues had an appt this afternoon with MW and is 16weeks. Assuming that she won't be seeing the MW agoin in 2 weeks time so I should be safe from bumping into her