You can do it by charting, analysing, testing, and worrying, but we prefer... JUST SHAGGING PART 20!!

[Nessalina]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 19 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1906908-Come-and-join-us-on-the-brand-new-rather-fabulous-and-very-slightly-notorious-or-so-wed-like-to-think-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-19" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

dulcet I'm pretty sure that you're not my rl friend ....if you are then you shouldn't be on here my love - you ain't got the necessary bits!

gonna have to buy this 50 shades of sperm book now! that'll make interesting bedtime reading ha ha

Hooray, new thread!

Name: Redshoes56
Age: 34
Rugrats: Two fat cats
TTC: Almost 2 years
Preferred cape: A very warm one due to polar vortex clinging onto NJ, USA

hey red was meaning to say hi. Did you speak to the clinic about the new protocol? Hope you're alright and yay! nearly the weekend. x

I think I am leaving! Dh has decided he doesn't want children! Not sure what is going to happen now or if we will even stay together! Struggling to even look at him!

oh cookie that's so shit. I know it doesn't help but its better to find out now rather than at 8.5minths pg! hugs

cookie hugs

how did this all come out? xx

Oh cookie, that's awful. I hope it's not as straight forward as that and perhaps he's just have a wobble. Virtual hugs to you.

Oh cookie hugs for you :-( what caused this? Maybe there's something he's concerned about? I say this because before DH and I got married we had pretty massive debt probs and it made him 'decide' he didn't want kids, through good fortune we managed to pay our debts off and he confessed he really DID want kids but never thought we could afford them so didn't want to 'get my hopes up'

He just says he is unsure!!

Oh, cookie :( I don't even know what to say. Hugs. Is he just scared because of the last few months? I do hope that things work out the best way possible for you.

juniper I didn't get a ton more info but I do feel confident. My doctor likes to see at least two viable embryos at the end of any cycle, and I only had one technically ... hence a more aggressive second attempt. My Day 3 blood work came back normal today so I'm starting the two weeks of birth control tonight to "quiet down" my ovaries before starting injections. Here we go again!

Oh shit Cookie that's awful! He can't mean it, it's got to be fear about the MMC surely? I bloody hope so. What else can it be? Has he ever said anything like this before?

girls, I'm pissed as a fart. and I had a fag today. if this doesn't invoke the law of the sod then...well..I give up!

Oh and me...
Name: hd19
Age: 30
DCs?: 1 little monkey (ds)
TTC: sept 13

Latium I'm still trying to work it out too, I'm going with the using as much as possible in between ertd!!

Ha ha ha lil1lady quality! How we all doing?

I'm bloated like a whale, back killing me, tummy aches and in general feeling sorry for myself.

Cookie sorry to hear that, hugs. Perhaps have another convo with him when you've both had time to think about what you've said?

cookie so sorry your man is says these things. :( I hope once the results are in he'll feel calmer with the information, either way. I don't know if this helps at all, but after I had the molar pregnancy I decided I was never going to try again, the risks were too high and I couldn't face going through all the sadness and stress again. I have (clearly!) found my way back but maybe he's at that stage of thinking it's not so bad to be childfree? Just keep talking and listening. Sending big hugs to you

lil after that intake the law of sod will give you TWINS!!

red glad you're feeling more confident and the docs explained it all. It's so hard, hope the birth control goes ok, not too long to go now. Best of luck.

I continue to have strange sensations in my breadsticks and the stomach bloats in and out. According to Zita I'm eating all the wrong things ie ALL THE SUGAR so maybe that's causing the bloating. She's gone a bit woo-woo so might have to go for another name change. ;)

Happy weekend all. xx

Omg cookie that's rubbish, turns out I wrote my post thinking only page one existed - then found the next2!
Yay lil, time to DDT?! It's got to help that!!

Aw lil when ERTD arrived my first thought was 'well at least I can have a ciggy and not be too worried!'

Felt pretty guilty though!

I am at my folks, can't believe this is happening!

Results came today, basically that started the whole thing. He is fine but I have an extra chromosome. Which means not much. Basically only girls can get it, it's not hereditary and it's just one of those things. I can carry healthy children.

He did say a while back if either of us had something then he wouldn't want to try, but he was sure that the test would come back fine!

Wow. Gutted for you that it's not a clear result cookie People react to bad news in different ways, and it sounds like he's just shut down. Doesn't mean he won't come back around though, you just need to give him space but stick to your guns. If you want kids of your own there's no point pretending you don't!
I haven't heard of this before, so I hope you don't mind me asking, but how does the extra chromosome thing affect you? Do you have a chance of passing it on each time you conceive? Is it a high chance? And if you have it and you're ok, why is it that bad that it's putting your DH off? Xx

Name beetle
Age 3....7! Yuck
Dc nope
Ttc not really sure , no use of hats on willy since wedding in nov 2012 but didn't see much action or even get when you were meant to bonk until prob August 2013 when we thought we better get our finger out or rather sperm in !

Was meant to Dtd tonight as decided to approach this month like rabbits. However stuck and work and got back to a sleeping husband as he's up at 4. Oh life u suck and continue to connive to keep me un pregnant.

Pretty sounds advice, Ness, boys especially need thinking & adjusting time to everything!

Ness it is called triple X chromosome, I have the mildest form. It can cause a small range of problems but nothing to bad. It said women with this go onto to have healthy children.

When I was telling dh he just said honestly I don't think I want children.

Sorry to hear this Cookie - that must be very upsetting for you. I agree with Ness - maybe this is a reaction to the stress of the tests and he will come back round. I hope you manage to work through this x