TTC 10+++ months part 18

[Mrsden]

This is the BFP thread.

Oh Critter it is a beautiful photo. I see what you mean about his colouring. What a cutie. :) , but also :( Thank you so much for sharing, I know it must be hard for you. He will always be your lovely first born, and as you already know the rest of the 10+ers have rather a special place for him in their hearts too.

I also recall Sister Critter was freezing her eggs, or thinking about it,or did I make that up? Hope it went ok for her.

Euro so sorry about menkulling. I hope it's just one of those things. And sea, good luck for the scan, there is no way you should feel guilty about posting. Your journey has been tough, no doubt about it. Sorry to hear about the job situation. Hopefully the irons-in-fire will come to fruition and then the big payout = a year's maternity .

Ray I think it's great the clinic are being so proactive now, I agree you just haven't had enough of a good run at it.

Devon if only the AMH was always wrong . But clearly it was not an issue with you, so agree it sounds like you should try to focus on the egg haul rather than an arbitrary number some rubbish lab came up with.

Fox, more tail fluffing here. I think you are so so close. I am keeping my fingers crossed more for you than me these days!

I had a quick look at logistics of Athens and think it's doable but haven't talked to the clinic as yet. I have instead looked at temperature charts - of the sunshine variety - and lovely hotels. Gotta get priorities right, huh? I am also in possession of some DHEA which I'm plucking up the courage to try. Courtesy of our newest mum .

Loves to everyone I've missed. By the way, found the chat about mini-Hezbolites, adoption, bonding and family resemblances all very interesting. Doll I hope you are starting to feel better.

Oh, critter, he's so beautiful and perfect looking. I wish he was snoozing in that photo. I am devastated he's been taken already. It is simply wrong. I am glad you're healing and that your sister will be with you this weekend. A huge big hug for you and frustration that we can't do more.

Much good luck for tomorrow sea. Don't panic if there is not too much to be seen. And bloody hell about the redundancy, it's terrible timing. I agree with euro about the opportunity. Go for it, and then be frank before burning all your bridges.

Hugs and tails fluffed all round. I had a long day at work, so am a bit too slow to do a complete catch up. I am thinking and hoping for all of you!

Critter I'm so glad I got to see a picture of James, thank you so much for sharing. He looks just gorgeous and at peace and I will be so happy to think of him in that way. He looks so perfect, you must ache for him so. That hat looks beautiful and very sweet, the twiblings will be very spoilt when they come along.

Dev I'm so glad you got to see a nice doc. He sounds very balanced, and I think very right about Amh and the persevering thing. I'm so hopeful for you that this different approach suits you better.

Ray my goodness so many vials, crikey. What a great load of tests for 30 euro. Hope it helps give some clues as to what's going on for you. Knowledge is power as they say.

Euro some sun sounds a-may-zing, enjoy.

Ten how's it going?

Sea oh what bad timing. Still if he gets another job soon and you can bank the payoff then it might be brilliant timing. I'm sure you don't need the stress though. As for your job, I think you have to pursue what's right for you.

And Buzzy!! Many congratulations, so so pleased for you. Hope you are getting to grips with it all.

Afm I'm fine, not in any pain and feel fine and just taking your advice and keeping busy until Monday and then will deal with what happens then.

nelly sister critter did freeze her eggs, yes - she did it a couple of months ago and I think she got 13 eggs. They said there's about an 8% chance of each frozen egg resulting in a live birth, if I remember rightly. They use ICSI with frozen eggs and apparently that plus the new freezing methods has made the technology much more successful. It made her feel a lot happier and less panicked about fertility stuff. Will be watching with interest about the DHEA, and somewhere warm sounds perfect right now.

sea tight squeeze for tomorrow. Will be thinking of you and wishing you lots of luck.

euro also thinking of you. Funny how our preggos come in clusters on this board.

cos good luck for Monday. Distractions are key although I am sure it will be impossible to not think about it.

devon I am so glad you had a nice consultant who sounds sensible and reassuring. Having good care makes all the difference in how easy this horrible journey is to manage.

lemon your bump is probably appearing around about now! How lovely to have a summer baby. Hope you're feeling good.

Thanks for saying lovely things about the picture. I think he looks like a very small pub landlord. My hair was the same colour when I was born, and he has MrC's wide-set eyes. We both cry when we look at the pictures we have of him, but the tears come from love - it doesn't feel like despair. It feels like a deep sadness that comes from somewhere very pure and that makes the emotion easier to cope with.

I went out for a walk around the partk today for the first time in 12 days with MrC. I felt panicked at first to leave the house but then I was really glad that I did. It's amazing what a difference some sunshine makes.

critter what a beautiful photo of your little boy (he looks so perfect) and I love your comparison of a teeny pub landlord ('finish your drinks everybody' :-). I confess that my tears flowed when I looked at your beautiful little boy, it's such savegery that he's been taken so soon.

I'm so glad you and Mr C got out today, it must have been so hard stepping out that door, I'm so glad it went well and helped (in a small way) to lighten your spirits.

Sorry for barging into the thread (which I graduated from a while back and largely just lurk now) but when I saw your little boys photo I had to post. Sending you much love.

Critter so glad you made it outside and the sun did you some good. Pub landlord in 'knows everyone's name / everyone's best friend' kind of way?

I saw this in the fail today about Create starting a trial for this new cheaper Ivf, and I just wondered whether they had their 50 volunteers?
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2549095/First-British-women-1-000-no-frills-IVF-Budget-procedure-inspired-Alka-Seltzer-available-weeks.html

Which also got me thinking about other Ivf clinical trials, I wonder if you have to pay or not if you're doing it as part of a clinical trial? (whistles and thinks of people like Le Pout)
www.nhs.uk/Conditions/IVF/Pages/clinical-trial.aspx

I saw that too cos and wondered if they might be looking for volunteers. Might be worth contacting them if anyone wants a cheap round. I know at my clinic they sometimes ask for people to take part in trials. They had one recently to try a new stimming drug and you didn't have to pay for the round. They had quite strict criteria and I was too young, they wanted women over 34 I think.

When is your scan cos?

Critters - I can imagine it was hard to take that first step outside but fresh air and even cold sunshine helps so much. I think daily walks with MrC can only help the soul. I am glad seeing the photos brings you and MrC Joy. Sometimes crying is helpful. I am just so glad you got to see him. He does look like a little pub landlord.

I have a couple of friends who also freezed their eggs. I think it's a wise thing to do and helps takes the pressure off somewhat.

Cos - How are you feeling? I am counting down the days until you have your scan - Monday I think. I can imagine it must be nerve racking. I think trials are worth looking into. I have seen them advertised before. I don't think you have to pay or if you do it's half the price.

Euro - Are you planning on telling your new opportunity that you are pregnant before accepting the role?

Lemons - Are you showing yet?

I had the scan this morning. I was warned that by lovely 10 plussers and the doc that we probably won't see a heartbeat as it's really v early. We did. And there are two sacs. It was all v emotional and I was shaking so much I had to hold my legs down on the stirrups to stop them making an awful noise. Even though I half expected it, it was still a big big shock. I don't really know what to say. MrS and I are v v happy and know how incredibly fortunate we are. It's still v scary though.

I've just come back from coffee with the lovely princess and even lovelier (sorry princess) Elodie! Just gorgeous. And I can definately confirm that meeting a ten plusser with their baby is a world away from an insensitive normal! Really lovely.

Oh cross posts, omg Sea that's amazing! Fantastic news, well done you. What did they say?

Thanks Cos. The doc was v happy. He said it's v early days but everything looks good and I should be v positive. I will still be monitored but I am hoping not daily anymore but frankly at this stage I am just going to do what I am told.

Sea! Oh honey how wonderful.

Afternoon all

Critter James is just beautiful. It's simply heartbreaking that he only got to spend such a short amount of time with you and Mr C. I'm still in awe of your coping and positiveness. Thank you so much for sharing the photo. Also glad to hear you had a lovely walk in the sun. As Ele says it must have been hard making that first step. I'm still thinking of you and your family. And as an aside, would you take comfort from the very fact that you knew each other for 9 months? I "knew" mini princess before she was born; she knew me too. So even though you only held your beautiful boy in your arms for a day, you two spent so much longer getting to know one another. Xxx

Well, I had a lovely, lovely catch up with Cos this morning. It was just wonderful to hug a fellow 10 plusser. I wish it were easier for all of us to meet up. It's just lovely to actually spend time with people. I think it's sometimes easy to forget that real people sit behind real devices in real homes / cafés / workplaces / holidays shedding tears, laughing, feeling angry on behalf of and sharing joy too.

I wish we had all met under different circumstances. But the one thing that unites us is what brought us together. And I wouldn't have "met" you without it. You all have a very special place in my heart. (((((((((big group hug))))))) xxxx

Major x post
Sea twins! Amazing! Congratulations! And wow!
Cos glad that mini princess and I are non stabby. Looking forward to next time and have everything crossed for Monday.
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Critter – James is a beautiful and perfect little chap. You must be so proud of him. Such a poignant photo. I am comforted to hear that you only feel pure love for him and not despair. It must be of great comfort to know that his siblings will be with you in the not so distant future. I still think you are an extraordinary human being – so much generosity and kindness in the most awful of circumstances. I am pleased you were able to go outside and get a walk in. It will of course take time for you to get your physical and emotional strength back but take your time.

Sea – And that’s great news about the 2 heartbeats. That’s fab news!! All your levels have been very strong so it was highly likely there would be two. Kick back, try to enjoy!! i’m so sorry to hear about MrS though. Really terrible timing. Talk about walking in the rain. I hope some of these opportunities come to fruition. As for you, I personally would go for it. I think Art took on a big role when she got her bfp. Thank you for talking sense about the Argy’s freezing. I know they are extremely strict. I guess it doesn’t help that bar one person there, everyone i spoke to had frosties to freeze. Even a lady who was 43 had frosties. Everyone is so chatty there and so unfortunately it is very easy to compare oneself isn’t it. The girl who never got to frostie stage had a similar situation to me in that her embies didn’t perform well after day 3 and it wasn’t much comfort to know that she had spent over £100k and was on about her 11th round. So to me, getting to frostie stage always seems a likely marker of success in the future and normally just a matter of time. The various research I have read also said that there is probably no difference in putting back in to the womb earlier. If it didn’t develop in the dish properly, it means it is aneuploid and would never have developed.

Cos – lovely about yours and Princess’ walk! I hope this last week hasn’t been too terrible. I will be thinking of you on Monday. I saw that article and my MiL was sending me info about this woman a few months ago. I’m sure they must have their 50 right now but I may contact them anyway.

Nelly – priorities of Athens have got to be weather! I read people’s diaries on FF who go there and many do say it feels a bit easier being abroad . Feels more like a holiday.

Buzz – congratulations! Lovely news.

So many lovely things to comment on today.

critter James is utterly beautiful, so perfect. Thank you for letting us share the photo.

buzz Massive congratulations on your gorgeous little one. I hope that you are okay and recovered and that you had an easy labour.

sea Wow at twins! I am chuffed for you, how amazing. So sorry about your other problems, what terrible timing. To quote my Grandad, everything happens for a reason. I'm sure that MrS will find a new job that is better.

cos and princess How nice that the three of you met up for coffee. I dream't of you last night Cos though you didn't look like you. You had a little corn snake wrapped round your neck.....make of that what you will, I can't work it out! Thank you so much for the link to that list. It is very interesting. I will get MrP to have a look properly at it with me over the weekend.

euro wishing you loads of luck for your scan on Monday.

fox I hope that you are feeling a little brighter. I know what you mean and feel like I am in a bit of a dip right now too. Depressing because I thought I was turning a corner. My GP prescribed me some tablets for my migraine that are contra indicated for pregnancy & TTC and this swiftly after the non-referral has knocked me off balance a bit. It feels like everybody has written me off in the baby making stakes. Oh well I've decided to throw myself into the garden (not literally, a la big tantrum) and revel in the wonder of nature and all that blah...

Thinking of & fainting at the 15 vials of blood, art's graphic description of childbirth, boak and sending general waves and luffs

Massive congrats on Le Twins, sea! That is excellent AMD exciting news. I am holding everything crossed for an uneventful pregnancy and I told you there would be two.

Good plan about the trials, I hope they give you another chance, poutster. Sorry about the stabbyness of migraine pills!

Thinking of you all. James has been in my minds eye a lot. He's just perfect.

For people who asked, yes, there is a little bump now altho an also pg colleague commented that I stayed in the fat rather than diffed stage for a really long time, well thanks

Sea oh wow that's amazing. You know, your description if how you reacted sounded so real. I could almost feel it myself. I really really hope for an easy 8 months now.

Critter a walk in the sun is good for the soul in all circumstances. I am glad sister critter has her Icy eggs. I wish if done it, obviously. Isn't hindsight wonderful...

Pout I am sorry about the double whammy. Though I did have an insensitive chuckle at your garden tantrum. I so wish for an ironic diff for you.

Devon thanks for reassuring me about my misaligned priorities .

Princess and Cos, how lovely you've met. Madness and I must do it soon, and Fox and I have vowed to as well.

Very bored on a Slow Friday. Mr N is away for a week so I think I might miss ovulation completely. Am looking forward to the break (strange how mostly we never mention this stuff any more). But not sure if there is a right time to start DHEA. Maybe sooner than later if we want to get overseas sorted in late spring.

Better pretend to work. So cannot be bothered....

critter thank you so much for sharing the pic of James. I feel honored to have met him virtually. He looks so perfect, it's just so tragic. I think you have been so so brave and dealt with this with your usual grace and elegance. You will be an amazing mum to the twiblings. I'm pleased to hear getting out made you feel a little better, but do make sure you don't over do it.

sea Amazing news!! I'm so thrilled for you. After all your waiting you totes deserve this. Sorry to hear about Mr S's job but I'm sure everything will work out and as a preggo you aren't allowed to stress about it

cos you will be in my thoughts on Monday.

pout sorry about the dip. It's bloody unfair. Some of those trials sound good. The cheapo ivf at create also sounds interesting. I'd like to know more about it idly wonders if she could face going through it all again for another If the daily fail is right, it has the same success rates as conventional ivf.

I second what princess has said. I love you guys. You are such a supportive great bunch!

how fantastic sea. Are these the first 10 plus twins? I think so. I'm thrilled for you and mrsea.

So glad it's Friday, not had the best week and happy it's over. Wishing you all great weekends.

Happy Friday everyone.

sea what amazing news. Our first set of twins is definitely something to celebrate. I bet it's feeling pretty overwhelming tonight but try to enjoy it. You and MrSea exploring new job opportunities and a whole new future to contemplate :-)

critter thank you for sharing your beautiful photo. I am so happy that you have photos to remember James. My photos of lost loved ones are incredibly precious to me. Sunshine and fresh air sounds like a brilliant idea. Lots of fresh air here read gales but sunshine is slightly more elusive....

Congrats Buzz!!!!!

Sorry fox and pout that you're feeling low. I hope the weekend brings positive distractions.

nelly I realised i didn't ever answer your last question to me. The pregnancy will put the endometriosis into remission temporarily. It is likely to return afterwards but I think i can self refer back to my endo consultant to manage things then. The clinic is close to here so quite convenient. He wasn't willing to discuss future management until after we got through ivf. I hope you enjoy a week on your own. I miss MrM when he's away but the bed and telly to myself for a few days can also be bliss ;-)

cos you are doing so well amidst the uncertainty yet again. I will be thinking of you this weekend and on Monday.

Must go as collecting MrM from work. Waves to all I missed!!

Critter thank you for sharing your precious photo of James. He is just beautiful and you and Mr C will be terrific parents to his twiblings. I'm glad the sunshine helped. You are often in my thoughts.

Sea congratulations! Twins!! An instant family, v exciting. I bumped into an old friend yesterday whose IVF twins are now boisterous 4-year-olds. I'm sorry about Mr S's job scenario but I do think these things have a habit of working out for the best.

Devon, on the subject of frosties, I didn't get any out of 13 eggs as none of Mini Art's twiblings (love that word!) made it to blast. There's a lot the docs still don't know.

Cos a big hand-hold for the weekend, I'll be thinking of you on Monday.

Waves to everyone and best wishes for relaxing weekends.

Art - I keep forgetting that with you. Can you recall if there were quite a few at day 3 to chose from? Or was baby art the front runner?

critter I am glad that you made it out of the house. I find fresh air (and if at all possible a little sunshine) can really work some magic, however big the trouble.

One of my colleague's sisters has just done the same and frozen her eggs as an insurance policy. It's becoming more common and it's great that the technology is improving.

sea I knew it! That's fantastic.

cos I'll be thinking of you on Monday, and have everything crossed. I have my next scan then too (just a quick viability scan before they do the Harmony bloods, I think).

devon I have seen studies both ways on whether embies that didn't make it in a petri dish might have made it in the womb. I think the jury is still out. And art's experience suggests that her embies just didn't like the dish much. Out of 13 it seems really improbable that they managed to by chance pick the only one that would go the distance. None of my spare embies were any good either.

nelly I think making a holiday out of it sounds like a great idea, and you have your priorities just right.

drizz how amazing to have a bump. How many weeks are you now?

pout I love the imagery of a garden tantrum!

AFM, I am home now after a very uncomfortable flight. My preggo bloating tends to be worst in the evening, and planes often make me bloat up. By the time I got home I was in huge amounts of pain from my clothes and couldn't wait to rip them off and climb into some loose pjs. My belly looked like I had a 6 monther in there. I'm deflating nicely now though. It was very nice to spend the night in my own bed, although I do miss having the Med just outside.