TTC 10+++ months part 18

[Mrsden]

This is the BFP thread.

Hurrah sea that's amazing news. 19, good golly! Take it really easy today and tomorrow, and watch out for feeling ohssy.

Joy hope you feel better soon sweetpea.

Love fox and her glam cocktails. Popcorn flavour, wow!

Euro still hugging myself in happiness for you.

Well done Sea - amazing haul. It will be a tiring night for you as you'll probably have to set your alarm throughout the night to keep yourself watered. I haven't met one person at the Argy who hasn't had ICsi suggested. Please tell MrSea that clinics, especially the Argy prefer to do it because it gives better fertilisation rates. We were always told we would have ivf and even after EC we were told ivf but when I went home they called up and suggested ICsi and I am still not sure why. Everything has always been normal with Roy.

Such a lazy day here. I hope this lurgy is a very short one.

Well done sea. I reckon you should safely be able to plan on a day 5 ET with that number. Look after yourself.

I'm a wee bit cynical about clinics suggesting ICSI for the first time when you are stressed and exhausted after EC. Mine did it too. Of course, there is an extra charge for it....

foxinorangesocks have lots and lots of fun - good for you having some time away and cocktails

seamermaid - 19 eggs - good god that is amazing. I hope you are recovering well from that

I am struggling to sleep here, 3 days 3 hours until first scan where I might see something or it might be all over. MrF and I did our filing and went through a list of things we want to get done this year. He wrote down 'decorate kid's room' but I made him scrub it out in a fit of paranoia. I'm only eight weeks and we haven't even seen anything yet. I also miscarried at about this stage. The progesterone is making my skin itch and a rash on my breast which I have had checked out before is getting darker and more itchy and the breast is definitely more lumpy than the other one. Another thing to mental about. I've had a biopsy on the rash last year by a dermotologist and got the all clear but I think I'll ask the doctor to take another look. Going to try and get back to sleep.

I have missed so much but I just wanted to quickly pop on to say YAYYYYYYYYYY EURO! I hope that the men killing can abate for a bit now, this is such great news.

And well done Sea, what a haul, good luck for ET.

Free, it must be tough but not long to go until the scan, I have my finger crossed for you.

free I was in bits leading up to my scan. I have a few days off the men killing now, but it will no doubt start again in the lead up to my next scan on the 14th. The worry never ends! The rash and lumpy boob can't be helping! How are you feeling generally?

sea how are you doing today? I felt pretty bruised the days following my EC and I had far fewer eggs than you.

ten welcome back. How are you doing?

Morning ladies. Thanks for your lovely positive words.

Joy I thought as much about isci at the argy. MrSea feels much better now with that information

Free I'm so sorry about the men killing. It never ends does it? You should get the rash checked out. Always good to get these things seen to. I m counting down the days with you until your scan.

Euro yes I'm feeling a bit tender and v bloated. Struggling badly with the arse bullets they prescribed. I know it sounds weird but I have serious issues with inserting things into my bottom. It feels horrible. Think I prefer injections. I kind of agree with you about isci but I have got to the place where I'm just going along with things. I don't trust myself to make sound decisions anymore.

I'm men killing a bit today. They told me they would call between 830 and 930 to update me on fertilisation and embies. Still no call. Will wait till mid-day until I call them. [Looking at phone like a mad woman]

sea I hate using them rectally as well. My clinic recommends the front door anyway, but I occasionally use the back if my foof is getting a bit sore. It's grim though.

Grrr@the clinic. Mine forgot to call me at all on day 2 last cycle. And had gone for the day by the time I called them to chase. So I turned up on day 3 for transfer knowing 3/4 had fertilised but no more than that. You think they would understand the amount of stress that accompanies an IVF cycle and not leave you hanging. Grrrr again!

Okay they called. 18 out of 19 eggs were mature. 15 fertilised. Now more waiting.

Euro I can't bear putting stuff in the bottom. The clinic said I have to put it in the bottom and not in the fanjo.

sea That is great news, can you call everyday to find out what is happening

free big hugs, the waiting is truly shite, I;d like to say it gets easier but it doesn't, I found the scans only reassured me for 24-48 hours then I was back men killing again, I was like that up to my 20 week scan

Wow, sea, that is an amazing number of embies! Go seambies, grow! I'd expect day 5 w that number too!

Sorry about the men killing, free! Handhold for the three days and the weeks after I didn't stop men killing and am getting nervous for my 20 week scan now. It does get better after the first trimester, so only a month or two to go :)

Waves to the others!

Did they say why, sea? The packet says either and it doesn't seem there is any consistency in the advice the clinics give out. I've read that absorption of the progesterone is supposed to be better from the fanjo, but I don't know if that's true. I worked out that in 2013, I was on the bloody things for 15 weeks out of 52. Eugh.

That's a great fertilisation rate. 75% is what they aim for, apparently. It's amazing for them to get 18 mature eggs too. Clearly the long stimming was worthwhile. When will they call again?

That's a great number sea. You will get to day 5 I'm sure and have something to freeze :) I was told to use front door, apparently absorption is better than back door. Perhaps they don't want to irritate things after ec. I found the bullets a real pain, the worst thing for me, worse than the injections.

Free, best of luck for the scan.

Hi everyone,

I've found my way on to mumsnet and your thread out of frustration/sadness/fear and hope it's okay for me to join. AF arrived today so feeling pretty rubbish after the 10th unsuccessful cycle. We actually started a year and a half ago but had a break for our wedding so I thought I'd be pg last Christmas and never imagined that I wouldn't be by this Christmas. Reading your posts has made me feel a bit better that a lot of the things I've been feeling are 'normal', particularly the jealousy over all those people who get pg instantly. I'm meant to be seeing a very close friend next weekend who's 4 months gone and think I'm going to have to cancel because not sure I can face a day of baby talk whilst putting on a brave face. I'd decided that if it hadn't happened for us by this January then I'd go to the doctors so gearing myself up to make an appointment tomorrow but it just feels like a big step turning it into something medical. Fingers crossed that helps and 2014 turns out to be more positive.

Daisy - I am sorry you find yourself on there. Welcome to the thread. It is tough to not get preggo when you are trying month after month. I personally think getting the basic tests done to rule out any issues is a good thing to do and worth doing ASAP. I did it after about 9 months of trying but I didn't actually have any AC until more than 3 yrs later. As for avoiding preggo friends, that's of course a personal thing. I have actually found it okay. Of course it hurts a little when you find out they have fallen preggo but I tell myself it's not a zero sum game and there isn't a finite amount of babies to go around. I know it's easier said than done sometimes though.

Euro - Yes like MrsD says I think it's because they don't want it irriate things in the fanjo. The box does say fanjo or backdoors but they told me repeatedly it has be be the bum. [yuk]. MrsD I am completely with you. I would take an injection over sticking bullet up my butt anyway. As you can see I am finding this seemingly easy thing v difficult. It's strange how some things just get to you. [crazy face]

I didn't know about the 75% fertilisation rate. That's interesting. I'm just taking it one day at a time. I have known too many top grade embies that didn't implant in RL. I think this is the only way I can handle it - one day at a time.

Buzz - I am sorry the men -killing doesn't seem to subside after a while. I wonder if this is as a result of long term ttc and having to go through ivf.

They said they will call everyday about how the embies are doing but I have to be available to go there as and when they tell me. I am taking a bit of a risk as I have a half day client meeting tomorrow... I have a half-baked excuse in the back of my mind I can use in case they call me for a transfer tomorrow. MrS thinks I am mental to go to work but I need to work to stay sane. Staying at home means googling and that's really bad for me...

Forgot to ask.. Joy - How are you feeling today? I hope the lurgy has done one!

sea that's amazing, so many seambies! when is ET?

welcome daisychain sorry you find yourself here. Hopefully your stay will be short for all the right reasons. Most of the lovely ladies on here have been ttc for 3 years or more so have lots of great advice for those first meetings with the Dr. One thing I'd recommend is adding 6 months / 1 year to the time you tell then you've been trying as that gets things moving a little quicker.

Thanks sea that's a really good point about there not being a finite number of babies to go around and something I need to bear in mind. Will definitely help me with putting the brave face on!

Thanks coco I did wonder about adding on a bit of time to move things along. I figured most people probably did that so if I was honest then they might think I'd only been trying a few months. Will let you know how it goes.

Daisy - Coco's advice is v wise re adding some months on. I think if you are over 35 GP will refer you for tests after 6 months (I think) and if you are under 35 only after you have been trying for 1 year. I asked for tests after 9 months of trying but I told them I had been trying for 1 and a bit year. I figured it was only a white lie.

Hi all,
Can I join you? I'll not bore you with my long history, but been TTC for coming up to 4 years, interrupted by a minor bout of cervical cancer. I've just started my third ICSI cycle - the previous 2 didn't made it to ET - due to problems accessing my uterus. 12 (!) 1 day frosties in the freezer, but as NHS have finally stumped up the cash for this cycle I'm doing another fresh cycle.
Just looking for people to chat to, and help to deal with the inevitable stress/hope that surrounds an IVF cycle!

Welcome to the newbies.

time I'm sorry you have had such a rough ride. You'll find this thread a very supportive place. If you are looking for more cycle buddies, have a look at the egg buddies thread, which is for IVFers.

sea neither fanjo nor bum is great frankly - the fanjo method means nasty greasy leaky shyte getting everywhere (and from time to time leaves me sore); the bum method means grim insertion and, ahem, upsets my schedule.

joy I hope you are feeling better.

Daisy - I am sure your stay here will be short but we all understand your feelings. I was beside myself in the first year especially when my period came. Please feel free to off load here if it is all getting too much.

Sea - great fertilisation rate! It's horrible waiting for those morning phone calls. Makes me feel sick just thinking about it.

Time - welcome and so sorry to hear about your rough ride. You really deserve a break and I hope it comes on this round. 12 in the freezer sounds jolly good as well!

Been hopeless all weekend but have now made it into work. Songbird has got me again- serves me right for drinking too much but I think I now have a bit of a cold actually which I am quite excited about because the last one I had was over 7 years ago. I've just never been able to catch them and I've always linked it to my high Nk cells. Perhaps my Nk cells are coming down - in which case I expect a bfp very soon please

Welcome daisy and time. daisy lots of people who joined this thread got their BFP around the 12 month mark so hopefully the same will happen to you. I first went to the Dr at 11 months, and I'm now 3.5 years in so glad that I didn't wait any longer because the assisted conception journey is long.

time it sounds like you've had a really tough time. I've had two failed ivf rounds, about to start a fet.

joy it sounds like you're a bit run down with songbird returning and a cold on the way. I don't know if colds or lack of them is linked to nk. I don't seem to catch colds anymore.

I identified with you joy when you said that you felt like there was nothing to look forward to. I've said this to mrden many times.

My resolution for 2014 is to try and be more positive, and to stop feeling sorry for myself. Feel free to slap me if I sound all self pitying again. We've booked a holiday for the summer and I'm hoping we might have another one in September (going to wait until after the fet just in case it works ha ha) I'm going to take up running again, I'm fed up of feeling unfit and out of shape an I'm going to make more of an effort to keep in touch with friends. I have become a bit of a social hermit and I need to snap out of it. Has anyone else made any resolutions?

Our thoughts are starting to turn to holidays, mrsd. It's difficult to plan though, at the moment. I feel like we need two plans- one for if this pregnancy works out and one for if we need to spend a few thousand on another IVF cycle in a few months!

joy sorry about the return of the songbird.

Welcome Daisy and Time - I say this in the nicest way possible that I hope your stay is short.

Sea - The fertilization rate sounds fantastic! I understand the need to work to stay sane.

Euro - Glad the last scan went so well. I really hope the next scan will be good news.

Free - Good luck with the scan. I understand what it's like to feel like time is standing still. Mr.Grouch started to get very excited around 7-8 weeks... I had more trouble believing that everything could/would be ok.

Sar - Congratulations! I am not sure where to see the details of everything. I am really happy for you.

MrsD - Your resolutions sound quite good, they are also more ambitious than mine, and your upcoming holidays sound very nice. It's always wonderful to be able to look forward to some relaxation. The only resolution I have is to try to put less pressure on myself in my daily life.

Lemons - 20 week scan! It goes fast.

Buzz and Lemons - You're better than I am at not menkulling.

Joy - Sorry to hear about the return of the songbird. I've never heard someone sound so excited about getting a cold!

Waves and tailfeathers to anyone I have missed. I have been keeping up by reading the thread and quietly cheering everyone along.

Nothing to report from my end, except that I have an appointment at the hospital this week to decide how I will be induced.