Come and join us on the brand new, rather fabulous, and very slightly notorious (or so we'd like to think!) JUST SHAGGING PART 19!!

[Nessalina]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 18 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1843945-Put-on-your-capes-and-rub-the-Unicorn-belly-aka-my-dear-please-pour-baby-gravy-on-my-egg-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-18" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we become a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

But if I buy them dulcet I... might... use... them...

My OV should've been today/yesterday I believe but how would I really know??

I agree stupid body OK ok I don't mean that if you do your thing and make me pregnant. Thanks body mwah!

Hello all

I have the Tony Weschler book, i have read all of one page of it but i hear it is very good. My sister who is very proactive when ttc who temps and everything from day 1 sent it to me!!

Cosy, the official advice is to limit yourself to about 4 cups of tea or 1 strong coffee, more than 200mg of caffeine can increase risk of MC but not sure how it affects conception, I've tried rooibos tea, it's the most tealike tea substitute, I had awful headaches when I kicked my coffee habit

Technically in the TWOT now but didn't get icing pain this month, I'm putting my symptoms down to side effects of a festive diet

I'm down to one "proper" coffee a day, everything else is decaf - diet coke, Yorkshire Tea and coffee.

An giving myself a research detox and not reading any more advice for a bit, driving me crazy. Every. Single. Thing. seems to be bad and a possible cause of mc. Not changing my toothpaste either!

Ooh, apparently Clomid increases chance of a two for one deal

indeed it does lentil it stimulates follicles so you can get multiple eggs released or something like that

cosy I drink tea like its going out of fashion. when we started TTC I slowly switched to decaff. now I only drink decaff at home and I can't tell the difference. although it has to be pg tips decaff I've found.

think I ovd yesterday/today based on excruciating pain cm etc. so I guess I'm twotting too. I hate this bit! still we DTD day before day of and day after ov. will go the next couple of days just in case. have to confess i have temped this month because of blood test so will see what temps do next couple of days and then I'll book my blood test!

Qn for those who have had day 21bloods done... my day 21 or 7days after ov will be a Saturday... should I book in for the Friday or Monday?

I don't think I get ov pains.... is this quite normal?

I wish there was a way of knowing. Might get my cape on for one final time tonight, just in case - if I can be arsed. Yesterday was a tiring effort lol

All of this is such new territory and I don't know my arse from my elbow!

lil - mine fell on a Saturday too so I went on the Monday. Doc advised that in appointment because I think I ov later rather than early.

It's DTD day but I'm not sure it's going to happen... Don't wanna fight but can see it happening anyway.

perfectly normal not to get pains moo

you can track your cm to help pinpoint ov. I don't think that's contraband? it should dry up almost immediately after ov. but then again some ppl don't notice their cm changes without digging around up there, and that's a bit much. as uncomfortable as it is I do count myself lucky that I get ov pains, and an abundance if ewcm up to and on ov day. but everyone is different, you have to find what works for you. are you using an app contraband but I think most of us do that way you can record cm and AF anfmd establish a pattern to try and estimate when you might ov.

God I feel like an old hand at this, surely its about time I was upduffed!

thanks dulcet

surely you can find your inner seductress and have him eating out of your hand in no time! start with a bj?!

Lil I'll give decaf tea a try... must have improved since I tried it many years ago. I definitely drink too much tea...

Day 21 test - I've had 2 now and managed to hit the wrong day each time, and had a poor result. So I'm really anxious to get it bang on the right day, and so Im considering temping just for the blood test honest, not contraband! so far, my '7 days after Ov day' keeps falling on a weekend or a day that I can't get away from work, so it's driving me nuts.

Ov pains - lots of people don't feel them. I never did, until a few months ago when suddenly I was getting a stitch like pain on one side right around icing time. I have IBS though, so it could be that too...

Tracking CM and cervix position seems to be the best method for me at the mo, and I've been drinking grapefruit juice as it's supposed to improve CM. My DNs were drinking it the other day and I had to stop myself from saying "No you can't have any, that's for Aunty Cosy's Cervical mucus!!"

I do get a very definite change in CM though, complete with textbook EWCM.. trouble is, I had it twice this cycle, so not sure when icing happened.

God it's bloody complicated this stuff isn't it?! I feel I may get kicked off the thread since the whole ethos is JSing and forgetting about all the rest of the rigmarole!!

It's ok lil, my inner temptress won and order has even restored to he schedule. We are both coming down with a cold though so not sure how much longer we can keep it up. And it's back to work Mon. Boooo!

cosy - we are all pretty shit at keeping to JSing of we are honest. There's all sorts of contraband being used on here!

Hello All,
Pls Pls can I be added ?

Name - Noodles 32
Kids - 2
TTC - Since Aug 13

Many thanks xx

Hi Noodles! Welcome to the JS crew I've got well lazy with updating the role call as the thread has wound on - you're welcome to join us obviously, but there's nowhere to add you to at the mo! We usually start role call at the beginning of a new thread... But it got me thinking actually that maybe we should start a stats thread? Not that I'm an OCD organisation nut type. Oh no.
No proper ERTD yet, but think my CM is looking a little like it's on it's way (slightly more brown tinged than usual) so I may be out PAH!

Morning all,
I drink decaf tea for other reasons (heartburn issues) and once you're used to it normal tea is a bit "strong". Just leave it to brew a bit longer than normal tea.

Welcome noodles.

I think I may be JSed out! Following Zita's advice we have dtd a LOT this week and I don't wanna anymore. It's so frustrating though, feeling like if you miss a day you've missed THE day.

Don't forget to take the Xmas decorations down!

I'm definately JSing this month, sort of! Is an app contraband?! I've been using a period one for about 2 years in prep for TTC! Just cos I never used to keep any kind of track at all, didn't even think about it to be honest! Those were the days!

I'm trying to stick to every 2/3 days over the next 3 weeks, just calculated that! Every 3 days would be 14 times If we did it that much I'd have a traffic jam up there!

The Just shagging motto is a good one but I agree, I think we are all guilty of a little contraband and panicking about things from time to time. As long as we don'g get too stressed out and remember the crucial shagging part, I reckon we'll do ok.

Still no sign of the evil one for me. I am point blank refusing to POAS again unless she still hasn't arrived by next weekend. In an attempt to invoke the law of sod, I am even wearing a rather nice pair of pants today (no pantyliner, nothing) so if she is going to put in an appearance she better get on with it and put me out of my misery. That is living life on the edge!

Good work shaggers. Keep it up!!

Oh Latium isn't that just the way. Pretty pair of keks and ERTD arrives just to ruin them.

I do have an app but in my defence have used it for years for tracking periods. Now, it has added use on the ov bit but not sure how accurate this is!

Morning Ladies,

I've been reading this thread from the beginning - An love it :-)
Mr Noodles an I have bin trying for a while now, but I refuse to change T-bags or toothpaste Lol
Also after every shag don't wanna b thinking was that the one.
I do understand that it can get a bit much every month wondering am I or not ?...

But I think by getting to worked up it doesn't do any good either, so we're going for the lots of sex an fingers crossed method.
But good luck to everyone here xx

Hey Noodles- welcome.

Fuckedy fuckedy fuck.

Witch has arrived

I'm officially declaring today cheese & wine day

Nessa I've done a remarkably stupid thing and managed to start my healthy eating and diet kick the day before AF arrived. Been ok so far but there's a big part of me wanting to get elbow deep in some Korma!!!

Mmmmm... Korma...

Tis the season for cheese and wine nessa, just sorry for the reason...

Korma would be yum, but stay focused. Maybe you can have one in Feb! Projecting my own desire to stay good onto you!

Afternoon ladies.

I couldn't post yesterday but caught up with the thread and could not believe about the toothpaste!! I think I'll just stick to my motto of not swallowing (!) lol.
I've been ttc for 2 years and have done the whole avoid caffeine, drink green tea, take pregnicare multi tablets etc. have returned to normal lifestyle just to stop stressing. I had the lovely mid month pains that I'm hoping is the ovulation and fair play to dh we have been every other nighting it this month. Definitely recommend a Bj to start the ball rolling. Also found ann summers sale yesterday and a few purchases to spruce it up.
So it looks like a few of us starting our tww now, would be cool to be able to come here and rant about phantom symptoms until 14 days when we can all cheer with loadsa pink lines lol