Come and join us on the brand new, rather fabulous, and very slightly notorious (or so we'd like to think!) JUST SHAGGING PART 19!!

[Nessalina]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 18 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1843945-Put-on-your-capes-and-rub-the-Unicorn-belly-aka-my-dear-please-pour-baby-gravy-on-my-egg-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-18" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we become a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

There's nothing like a RL Pg announcement to bring on the forced smile whilst crying inside eh

My ERTD is taunting me with the worst bout of (probable) Endo attack ever. Feel like my whole insides are having a period with nowhere for it to go. Nice.

To make it worse, I had to go Christmas shopping yesterday - I walked past all the gorgeous snuggly baby outfits and little socks with my eyes to the ceiling.. can't really look at that stuff any more.

Red you mentioned you were in a choir - I am too, and even that is harder when TTC at Christmas time, because all we sing about is the blimmin offspring of a virgin's womb, or the sleeping baby in a crib. Last year, one of the choir members was heavily pregnant, I just couldn't look at her while we sang that stuff for fear of blubbing!!!

Aaargh! Need cheering up!

I know I should be happy for them, and I will be when I get over myself but it seems so unfair that its happened so easily for them twice now, especially as my brother has one testicle and SIL has a life limiting illness! Me and DH have good careers, earn good money, eat well, are good, generous honest people more than can be said for SIL but thats another thread! and we've been trying for 15 months now. And I suppose I'm more annoyed that i'm in this situation about the pills and what to say to the doctor tomorrow. DH has suggested we could go private for tests so if the doctor is not forthcoming with referring us tomorrow I think that will be what we do.

Ugh sorry, such a me me me post!

U have made me smile about the choir cosy glad it's not just me cursing the virgin Mary at every Christmas carol I hear.

On a brighter note I'm wrapping DH's christmas presents whislt he's out buying the last of mine :)

Oh Lil1ady I really know how you feel. It's really hard to feel happy for people when you're thinking "but what about me?"

I had yet another of my MUCH younger cousins announce her pregnancy the other day. My family breed like rabbits, and I'm left on the barren shelf... pity party alert

Good luck at the Drs tomorrow - I would say come clean, they can't help you if they're not dealing with the full facts. Then if they don't refer you, then go private if it will get things moving quicker for you.

I'm in a similar boat with waiting for a referral which will take months, it's very difficult to be patient when that big biological clock is ticking away.

I had a frank discussion with DP earlier in light of another issue (if you've seen my thread in Chat you'll know). I told him we really need to try harder as I feel like his heart isn't in it sometimes. I said that I know for certain that we didn't DTD on the right days this month, and so we didn't have a hope in hell of a BFP. He said "Huh, maybe we should put a chart above the bed"... didn't tell him about my very detailed chart full of info on cervical mucus and Jsing days on FF

He cheered up when I told him that the 'magic window' was right around Christmas day though. Here's hoping for some Christmas magic for you all

Those pregnancy announcements in RL are like a big kick in the guts aren't they. I've had quite a few of those recently.

I need your advice ladies, i think I'm being a big wimp and just need to get on with it, but not sure what to do. I was going to start another thread about it but wasn't sure where to post:
I had a miscarriage in June, I would be due 14th January. A colleague of mine has the same due date and I've managed to avoid her for last 5 months (she works in another office). But I have an unavoidable big meeting on Wednesday which she'll be at. it's going to be so tough for me to sit and look at her 8 month bump for 3 hours and I know I'll play it over in my head again and again over the Xmas hols. It's her last day before mat leave and my last day for xmas. I'm really thinking about calling in sick on Wednesday just to avoid seeing her. Is that totally ridiculous? I'm not usually the type of person who calls in sick but I'm just not sure I can face it. I'm the organiser of the meeting so there's no way I can go to work and not attend....

Oh Wagga I'm so sorry to hear that - it must feel like a cruel double blow to have someone with the same due date.

It is definitely not ridiculous to feel the way you do.

I would weigh up the pros and cons of calling in sick - such as how upset do you think it would make you to see this colleague? If you think it would be really bad - then don't do it to yourself.

What would the consequences be of calling in sick? Would it be bad for you to miss the meeting, or would it be no big deal?

I think I'd pull a sickie - go easy on yourself

wagga

that's crap. poor you.

I wouldn't go, coz I couldn't focus on the meeting anyway and would probably end up crying on the loo.

don't torture yourself darling, stay home and have a nice relaxing/busy day.

wagga

will call in sick for you.... be kind to yourself and don't go in. Rearrange the meeting for the new year.

I don't normally advocate chucking a sickie but I would in the circumstances xx

Big hugs wagga. Don't go if it'll be awful but it might not be as bad as you're expecting? Maybe decide on the day. Or go to work and be "taken sick"? Lots of options and you don't have to decide now.

Right, we need some cheer in here! I'm going to decorate the jacuzzi. I don't know how you do that, maybe I'll put a tinsel trimmed gazebo over it & put glitter in the pumps?

Or just throw caution to the wind, chuck some bubble bath in it and let it go crazy juniper

or use fairy liquid like I did once with spectacular results!

YEAH! Bubble bath! I think it would be a lot of fun to all get together in a massive jacuzzi full of bubbles & pour our hearts out. sigh.
Stupid ERTD taking DAYS to get going here, so annoying. It's been really manageable lately, starting like it means to go on, not being super heavy or painful and lasting only four days. If this carries on it'll be two weeks or something stupid. gRRRRRRR.

On the bright side, what shall my tipple of choice be at the work Xmas do on Wednesday? I'll need something strong to deal with all the mad people I work with in a social situation...

Jeepers Wagga, that sucks. But it might not be as bad as you think it will. I'm remembering my first MC, I was in a board meeting and started bleeding, don't want to tell anyone at work that I'm even trying so went back in and carried on, figured there was nothing I could do to stop it happening.

My sister got pg at the same time as me and my nephew is now 9 months, her fourth, I don't even want to talk to her about it, second MC would have been due this week

Seems everyone is on the ERTDs, are we synchronising or what? I was almost hopeful this month, had popping ears and vinegar cravings... really? they're pmt symptoms too? Great. Anyway, where's the port and Stilton....

Juniper

I'm sending you a bottle of Hungarian William Pear Palinka to deal with twats.
it's fragrant yet kicks you like a horse.
good choice?

*zing

Are you a witch?

There is a bottle of that stuff in the office kitchen from a client! Good to know it's the hard stuff, I'll get started on that first! Spooky or what?!

that is spooky!

not a witch though. but definitely a bitch every now and then!

it's really lovely stuff. if you warm it up and add honey you can pretend it's medicine!

sod work I'm off to find some pear stuff like what junipers got!

I think you should go down the retro route and go for babycham or a snowball

thelentil I think you're a stronger person than me to carry on with the board meeting. I have the SIL thing too she's on her third baby in three years, geez how is that even possible? it wouldn't be me, I know I couldn't cope with 3 littlies so close together and neither would dp who does a lot of the childcare.

I'm missing my office xmas do on Friday because I can't get a baby sitter for ds, so enjoy yours it mjght well be your last! Next year you'll all need to miss it too because you'll have wee bundles of joy that need you at home . I have a bottle of prossecco in the cupboard I might crack open after he goes to bed though.

I'll decide tomorrow if I can face work or not, thanks for not making me feel like a big woose. I just don't want the image of her bump haunting me all xmas, I'm only just beginning to feel a bit better about my mc.

wagga I agree, stay home! sending you hugs

um ertd is somewhere between 0-3 days late depending on ov but 2 bfns. I swear the witch is holding off deliberately to make my drs app more difficult !

Ugh OK so where I am you have to have been trying for 2 years if you are under 35 before they will refer you to a fertility clinic. Why does everywhere on-line say 1 year then you get to the Dr and they say "sorry come back in another 12 months".

Anyway, she did agree to let us get day 21 bloods and SA done. I'm also having rubella, chlamydia and some other blood test which seems to be standard. So at least its a start.

Still no witch..

Very strange lil! Hope she pops along soon. Why are you so sure you're not upduffed?

2bfns nessa and I'm not convinced about miracles really happening lol

Ah! Still too early for a BFN to be a definite BFN though surely? I'll keep my miracle fingers crossed for you!

Give Christmas Parties a miss, I don't have many friends at work, being the only female here it gets a bit lonely, at the office party last weekend, one of the guys I got on well with started being extremely inappropriate whilst very drunk, now not speaking to me at all

As I'm also now surfing the ERTD I'm throwing a massive pity party just for me and no one's invited

lil, I had a 34 day cycle in July, with 24 to 26 day ones since, had previously always been bang on 28. Weird.

Aw thelentil your workplace sounds bloody terrible. I hope they pay you very well to go through all of that. :(

We do appear to have thread synchronisation with all the ERTD going on. I'm getting such strange pains today clutches cocodamol lovingly. But also GRRR for it showing up at all.

Still overthinking the host from the couples party at the weekend asking if we'd been "trying" (she was really lovely about the CMP). Some people don't get how long the trying can go on! Oh well, drs in January, let's get the ball rolling.

I'll put a picture of the polinka on my profile in a bit.

juniper you carry on hugging that Cocodamol! It's funny how everyone seems to assume if you want a baby you just have sex and hey presto your upduffed! IF ONLY!!

The witch has turned up now so bring on the Christmas Brie and Booze! I'm actually more ok about it than I thought I'd be after the weekend. I guess that's because I can focus on working out when I need to do my day 21 bloods which will be more like day 29 but at least my Dr acknowledged I needed to count back 7 days from when AF due

8 sleeps 'til Santa!!!

Sorry lentil I hit post too soon!!

My cycles are different lengths every month, my ov seems to be easily affected by stress so I ov anywhere between day 16 and 22 based on recent cycles. so I sometimes cheat with the odd opk here and there this month is the longest my LP has been - 16 days, normally its 14, 15 max. I think I ov'd a day after my app thought I did though, which is why I was convinved by the bfns.

Enjoy your pity party for one :)