The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

[happylass]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

bunny getting 'blotto' at christmas is surely the best option -like rp said, just shag and drink (like your style rp!). Not that the FC would approve mind - I'm still wondering how to cut down on drinking like our consultant said when I've so many Christmas do's coming up...

I guess having a Lap & dye &whatever else is going to mean no booze for a bit

barking sorry to hear about your not so helpful consultant. I'd say go for it with the acupuncture - if nothing else it's bound to be relaxing. my dh's ex-army physio is doing acupuncture on him - not fertility related - but he says its making a difference.

gill I know what you mean about IVF feeling scary. Was it you that recommended that 77p kindle book about a woman's IVF journey? I just bought that and it's really reassuring so far. We're not quite there but seems likely if the Lap doesn't change things.

Yes Aquarius the book suggestion was from me. Not that I've read it yet - currently ploughing my way through Robert Winston's IVF book. Next on my list though.

Maybe the acupuncture is a good idea Barking at the very least it should relax you a bit.

When is your lap and dye Aquarius?

It's next week- couldn't come sooner. Never had a GA before - bunny tells me it's very effective and I won't remember a thing. Did you have a GA for your fibroid op? Hope you're recovering well?

Yes had a GA in August and yesterday. Both times were fine. I felt a little woozy yesterday but I think I got ready and left a bit quickly. Had a lie down and a lovely sleep at home and have been fine today so nothing to worry about. Hardest bit is coping with the hunger beforehand!

Barking my MIL is the never a day off in 40 years type & swears by acupuncture. She didn't use for fertility but has aided her recovery from major surgery on her spine. She is really keen to get me to her person - she's briefed her already! - I think I'll go for it in new year if only to relax me.

Gill glad you're recovering well from GA.

RP great festive season advice!

I started acupuncture last week barking. I have no faith in anything alternative, but am a bit desperate! I found it really helped calm me down, partly I'm sure because she was so positive, when my gp and FC had been so negative. And if it's placebo I don't care, as long as it works!

RP not sure they've agreed yet! but I'm pretty damn pushy/persuasive and hoping they'll say yes. The fertility clinic I have been going to for the last year are amazing - I don't have a bad word to say about them and I'm aware that I should be thankful for that and I am.

Sid sounds like the IVF plan is a real positive! Changes of it working are super high. When do you think you'll start?

Aquarius good luck next week. Here's to a swift recovery! I always find GA quite nice, and if you can convince the nurses to give you a little hit of morphine when you wake up for the 'pain', it's bliss.

Barking just about to cart myself off to acupuncture next week. Also have bought organic castor oil online to start doing something called 'castor oil packs' and learning to give myself fertility massages via YouTube. As you can tell, I'm desperate, so willing to try anything and going in with and open mind.

Gill I'm 34. Reckon I've got a few rounds of clomid left in me yet. Then on to IVF if it hasn't worked by April/May (assuming I get the hsg and that tube is clear)

pixie very sorry to hear your news. I don't know much about it so don't have anything useful to say except

Well, DP has agreed to pay half so I've called the acupuncturist and left a message . My pg colleague has also leant me 'The Baby-Making Bible' by Emma Cannon. Has anyone else read it?

In more frustrating news I'm spotting again, 6 days later. Wtf?! Got possible AF cramps as well. Just finished taking the clomid yesterday so if this is AF starting I've really buggered up this cycle haven't I?!

Hey barking not read it but DH has bought us another one of hers - Total Fertility I think is the name - he thought it sounded good!

Barking I hope you thanked Mr Godsgift profusely for his advice

Can you go to a GP about this? I know they won't know about clomid, most likely but could they tell AF - e.g. from a physical examination?

Feather you get persuadin'

Am CD6ish but it will make bugger-all difference as we only dtd once this cycle about 48 hours beforehand. I know it only takes once but really, what are the chances. still not drinking though just in case

DH is still in pain from his accident. AIBU to hook a safety pin through his ear and haul him off to the dr?

rp the rule in our house is you either shut up whinging or you do something to fix it! Took ages for DP to go and see the physio to sort his shoulder out, I feel your pain!

Not sure there's much point in speaking to the gp, as soon as they see you're under the fertility clinic they just tell you to go back there!

Not much I can do now anyway, can't start taking another 5 days of clomid so will just shrug my shoulders and move on to the acupuncture - fx I can get an appointment pretty soon.

Grrr. Fourth morning in a row I've woken at some random time before 5am and not slept properly since. It's not helping my temps!!
Maybe the acupuncture can sort out my sleep patterns as well going from cynical to expecting it to solve every aspect of my life

Barking I know how you feel regarding the acupuncture! It's nice to have something to rest your hope on! Give it another few years and I may even try religion I don't know if you've seen it in the Infertility thread, but there is some interesting reading here Hope you get things sorted!

Feather hope you get to have it checked, at least that way you would know you have a chance with the clomid!

Gill I'm glad op went well!

Sid I would say that when it is out of our hands it takes a bit of the pressure off, but doesn't exactly mean we can relax about the whole thing! But there will always be random unscientificly proven things that we can do to help, whether it is eating pineapple at certain times of the month or acupuncture, so there will be those things to keep you busy!

RP YANBU! Drag him to the doctors! (Or at least the acupuncturist!)

Bunny I agree with the others! Enjoy the festivities, but don't NOT shag - maybe that'll do the trick

Pixie hope you and your DP are coping OK, there are still options - hope you find the one that works for you

Looking back on the year and at how other people's bumps and babies have grown, where as for me it is just: fall apart, start again, fall apart, start again. Over and over. But I know I'll get there.

I think the waking up early is a sign of stress Barking. Hopefully the acupuncture and impending school hols will get you nice and relaxed again.

Oh God Birdy I am just imagining what he would say if I mentioned the acupuncturist. He is a very bluff Northern sort of bloke - I think the response would start with 'fuck' and end with 'that'

barking he doesn't complain, that's the thing! He will go on and on and after a few days I'll say merrily 'looks like X has cleared up, eh' and he'll say 'actually, it's much worse and I think I may need an emergency medical appt'. Always. Always.

Anywhooooo...... So all you Berries will look like this soon:

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Hedgehog backs!!

In other news AF seems to be warming up - CD7 here

*7dpo, obvs

Thanks for the link birdy, I think that's the thread that came up on google and made me think thank fk it's not just me !!

Gill you're probably right. I left work early tonight and bought pizza so I don't have to cook either. Going to do wedding stuff and not even open my school email .

rp get him to the doctor, no option!

After calling for an acupuncture appointment and being told there weren't any available until 7th January I discovered that she works in two different clinics and the other clinic had an appointment available next Wednesday .

More spotting today, fed up of it now!

Hi all!

Well, it was my work Christmas knees up last night and I proceeded to get shi*faced. The mother of all hangovers today for the first time in forever. Ouch.

Agree with gill, barking - disrupted sleep patterns are a sure sign of stress. Have you tried an Epsom salt bath before bed? I tend to sleep like a babe when I have one!

rp fx'd af doesn't rear her ugly mug.

blue know what you mean about "falling apart and starting again" - hoping 2014 brings us all the bfps we so deserve.

The fertility nurse called this afternoon - she said she'd had a talk to the consultant and the thought it 'would be prudent' to have a hsg after everything that's happened, but that they'd want to do it after I've had two periods. Feel like it's all taking ages, but I'm just going to go with it. Got acupuncture on Tuesday with a specialist fertility acupuncturist who seems to have worked miracles according to online reviews. We'll see.

How's everyone else?

Oh, and no sign of af. Never though I'd be wishing for it to arrive so much.

Evening all!

barking sorry to hear your cycle is still playing silly buggers!

feather grrr to hangovers and FC delays

Had a major meltdown earlier, my younger cousin has announced she is pg and it hit me like a ton of bricks

Why is life so damn unfair?!?

bunny sorry to hear. I don't blame you for having a meltdown - it's totally natural in our situations to feel rubbish every time someone close announces a bfp. It just seems so easy for most and it's isolating and shitty that we're in this situation. Huge bunch of to you.

Thanks feather I just hate that I can't feel happy for her, the crazy lady in my head screams its not fair she's younger than me. It's not a competition and I have no right to be pg just because I'm the oldest cousin but I can't help how I feel.
I feel like as I hit 6months TTC I lost my mind, at 18 months I may have totally lost the plot!!!

feather I'm not having any problems getting to sleep at night, it's just the waking up in the morning (5.30 again this morning) and not getting back to sleep before the 6.30 alarm. I've not been able to record a single reliable temperature in the last week! Consciously doing everything I can to relax now though, so hopefully my body will catch up with me soon! I'm finding the Emma Cannons book quite helpful, although not impressed with her anti-running stance (something about affecting blood flow to the uterus?!) as the running is what keeps me sane and I don't run at 100% effort anyway.

Bunny are you feeling any better about it today after the initial shock impact? There's a chapter in the book about feelings of bitterness towards other pg women being understandable but not helpful to your own chances as you're not in a positive frame of mind. No shit! I'm a lot calmer around pg colleague now but after three months I still haven't seen bump-same-as-I-would-have-had and I really don't want to. Not looking forward to visiting SiL and their new baby at Christmas either.

Think AF is on her way. Made the mistake of getting my hopes up - ie my polyp must've been what has been holding us back and now that it's gone I'll be pg like a shot, plus I've felt queasy for the last few days and even threw up a few days ago after a couple of glasses of wine. But here I am on CD28 and getting some pink CM. I had hoped to be able to tell my family happy news next week