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The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

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happylass · 02/11/2013 15:25

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

OP posts:
winohhh · 09/12/2013 18:36

Hope you get the answers tomorrow barking! So frustrating!!

Yep, I'm signed up to ff. my alarm is going off at 6am every morning! I'm hoping it gets easier. And also provides some clarity about when af is starting with all this spotting!

Gillster · 09/12/2013 19:04

So all went OK with my fibroid removal op. Had a lovely sleep this afternoon and now just relaxing and being waited on hand and foot by DH. Hopefully this is it and I'll have a lovely springy palace of the child (!) for when IVF starts in Feb/March.

barkingtreefrog · 09/12/2013 19:14

Wishing you a healthy, springy palace gillster Grin .

Glad it went ok.

IamKuma · 09/12/2013 20:30

I'm glad it went ok Gill, I was thinking of you today! Enjoy your recuperation time CakeBiscuitBrew

barkingtreefrog · 09/12/2013 20:30

Very quiet in here... I'm feeling rubbish and off for an early night. Can't even catch up on strictly as I'm too tired to concentrate, just keep switching off and realising I've missed another dance! Shock

FeatherFeather11 · 09/12/2013 20:33

Great news gill! Here's to a speedy recovery and a shiny palace!

Went for my scan today - exactly one month and one day after getting the ectopic diagnosis. Looks like it's all gone - fertility nurse couldn't see anything in my tube. She said the consultant would probably say that I should be moved to IVF, but her opinion us that there's no reason not to give clomid another go - she said she'd twist his arm if that's really what I want to do in the new year. Feeling ok about it all. Was a little sad when I left, and very difficult to be in the epu with all the glorious bumps around.

barking fx your consultant calls back. All terribly confusing and mystery feel weird. Argh!

FeatherFeather11 · 09/12/2013 20:34

Mystery = must feel. Bloody autocorrect.

barkingtreefrog · 09/12/2013 20:38

Good news the tube is clear feather but must have been difficult being in the epu Thanks .

Are you going to give clomid another go then?

BoodleDoo · 09/12/2013 20:44

Feather, glad things are looking cleared up after the ectopic. Tricky decision for you with the clomid. What do you think you'll do?

Barking, I watched strictly yesterday from the safe haven of my bath tub! (Put the laptop on a stool outside the door...inspired!)

FeatherFeather11 · 09/12/2013 20:51

boodle & barking I think so. My instinct says to give if another go in the new year, although the nurse said I could do it on my next period this month if I want - that doesn't feel right to me though. I also asked if they would dk another hsg to check that my tube isn't blocked. Nurse said she thought I was mad to push for that because it's unpleasant, but I'd rather not do my next round of clomid not knowing! If it's blocked, I'll go straight for IVF.

What do you ladies think? Is that the mist stupid plan ever? Should I just get on the IVF list and night give clomid another go?

barkingtreefrog · 09/12/2013 21:01

I think we're in a similar position feather in that it was clomid that finally got us our bfps and even if it shouldn't have worked according to whoever it did and therefore is worth trying again.

but best to wait until af actually arrives instead of getting overly excited and taking them randomly on a whim

barkingtreefrog · 09/12/2013 21:03

boodle DP came in as I just started watching it and said 'oh, is this the one 's/he' goes out' just as the eliminated person was dancing. Hmm. Thanks for that! Shock

Gillster · 09/12/2013 21:24

It is was just the sake of a few months I'd be tempted to stick with the clomid Feathers. How old are you? If you were late 30s then that would be my only reason to go for the IVF route sooner rather than later as success rates would obviously be better.

Gillster · 09/12/2013 21:24

If not it

Pixie001 · 09/12/2013 21:45

Hey elderberries, I don't suppose any of you will remember me but I was on the berry threads a few months back having ttc since june 12. There's lots of names I recognise and good to see yellow brick road and copter are still in action. Thought I'd pop in and share my totally crap news. The end of months and months of tests gave us devastating news that we're not gonna be able to have kids of our own. DH doesn't produce any swimmers (as in totally zero). Was such a massive shock as you can imagine. So we're waiting to get referral to FC but not sure what they can do, other than donor.
In all the berry threads have you come across anyone else in this situation? Trying hard to keep going each day but all quite depressing so trying to find someone that can relate.

barkingtreefrog · 09/12/2013 22:04

Hi pixie nice to see you but so very sorry to hear your bad news Thanks . I have nothing useful to say other than take a hand to hold or a hug if you need it. That's a really shitty situation.

Gillster · 09/12/2013 22:23

Terrible news Pixie, I guess that will take some time to digest, so sorry. Not totally sure of available options other than the obvious donor sperm choice. There may be a chance that they can extract some swimmers straight from your DH by injection but not sure if they'd be suitable. Maybe worth a bit of research. I guess the best advice for now is to take this on board, possibly seek counselling and try not to let this awful news put a strain on your relationship. Hugs. X

CatsCantFlyFast · 09/12/2013 22:27

Pixie sorry to hear your news. I'm afraid I can't recall anybody in the same situation - I assume you've tried the infertility boards. Hugs and strength for you at a tough time. Stick around if you want as the collective berry shoulder is a good one to cry on

Aquarius1 · 09/12/2013 23:02

Hi pixie I'm so sorry to hear about your latest news. I've been ttc since may 2012 ish - think i remember you from earlier threads. i'm sure I've seen others on conception / infertility threads in the same boat as you- you're definitely not alone and like Merk said, there's a very large shoulder to lean / cry on here. You've a lot of processing to do and then no doubt a lot of people waiting to help you - I hope you get all the right support and advice at the FC.

Bunnygirlie · 10/12/2013 08:40

Gill glad your op went well, FX for a fast recovery to the next step of your journey Smile I'm sure yourPalace of the Child is now fresh, springy, and healthy

boodle watching strictly in the bath - you are a genius!

Aquarius is your lap soon? I had lap and a hysteroscopy in oct so any questions just ask !

Hi pixie I remember you! So sorry to hear your news though, what rotten luck Flowers

Hello to everyone else!

I have a dilemma, CD11 here so we should start DTD but I'm not sure I can be bothered, due to start injections next CD2 plus Christmas party is on CD21 and I intend to get blotto, what would you do?

Gillster · 10/12/2013 09:20

Bunny given that the FC say that it would be very unlikely to get pregnant naturally I would only DTD if you fancy it and have a relaxing Christmas to get you in the right frame of mind for the start of your IVF.

RevoltingPeasant · 10/12/2013 09:31

Bunny you should shag and drink, but then I'm in Plymouth and we're classy like that Grin

Feather I have no idea what you should, but totally sympathise with your wanting to know and make an informed decision. I think I'd feel the same! Would that do that procedure for you, just on asking?

Pixie how awful. When you say 'totally zero', is there any chance at all of extraction or is it really nothing at all? In which case, gosh.... how very hard Flowers

winohhh · 10/12/2013 09:54

Oh pixie, so sorry to hear your news! How awful. What a lot to get your head round. Has he been tested to see if they can extract sperm for ivf? I saw this on the bbc news. You've prob already seen it:

m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25018137

Gill, glad to hear the op went well. Fingers crossed for ivf!!

SidneyBristow · 10/12/2013 12:31

Pixie welcome back; I'm really sorry to hear your news and am hoping with the others that sperm retrieved surgically might be an option. If not, we are all here to listen to and support you Thanks

Gill well done on getting the fibroid out; I hope recovery isn't too uncomfortable. The IVF lady we saw last week echoed what the surgeon who removed my polyp said, that that sort of thing can change the womb's environment making it less hospitable to pregnancy thereby discouraging implantation or encouraging miscarriage - so fx you and I both see a benefit for getting cut on, and quickly!!!

Feather I think you're right to push for the hycosy - whatever discomfort there is would surely be better than assuming all is good when it may not be. The physical pain side of things is small potatoes compared to the emotional pain of all the uncertainty, IMO.

Bunny I agree with Gill, DTD as and when the mood takes you and enjoy one last adults-only Christmas Xmas Grin

11DPO for me and FF says AF will arrive on Fri 13th. Fitting, isn't it. I've had dull AFstyle cramps for the last day, which was never my pattern til I did a round of Clomid. I'm sad about it but at this point there are v few decisions left to be made so am trying to be philosophical and relax into our plans for IVF. All the months of trying & the resulting stress and unpleasant emotions have led to this, and I feel like things are very soon to be out of my hands, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a v scary thing Xmas Hmm

barkingtreefrog · 10/12/2013 20:39

bunny give yourself a break Grin . In the grand scheme of things what's one cycle? Use it to relax in the knowledge that IVF and a big fat chance of a bfp is on the way Grin .

sid same advice to you! Chill out and relax, help is on the way Wink .

My consultant was incredibly helpful. He passed a message through his secretary. Take a pg test. If it's negative carry on with the clomid. Marvellous. Who needs to speak to an 'expert' about whether I've actually ovulated, whether that brief 18ish hours of light bleeding was indeed my period, whether I can expect to ovulate this cycle and if/when to take clomid if I have this uncertainty again? Angry

So, returning to my default position of 'the fc knows nothing' I'm considering acupuncture. It's not something I've been interested in trying before but now my cycles appear to be totally screwed up and my stress levels are high it seems like something that could work on more than one level, both leading towards a better chance of a bfp than I have right now Hmm .

Berry thoughts welcome!