The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

[happylass]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

for Feather and Barking.

Actually Feather I think we may need a dressing gown emoticon for you, you shameless hussy!

So, this month has been pretty crap ttc wise. Work is only just settling down - last weekend at my desk before 9 both days, there in the haunted office by myself till gone 6, and then Thurs was an 18hour day! This is the first weekend I have had off since mid Sept, so naturally I got up at 6 to take DH to the station, nab a free all day parking space and get Xmas shopping. But soooo tired.

Then DH got hit by a car last weekend - not hard thankfully but he still doesn't feel quite right. And they actually accelerated towards him, which just makes me but we have only been able to dtd once this time what with everything.

And then I'm not sure if I even OV. My temps haven't really dipped - they did go up, at which point I thought great! And then today back down again. Cd19 and I always OV on 16 or 17.

So think I'm just going to need to sack it off for this month.....

Feather - very happy to hear you've adopted the 'get naked' conversation starter. Probably best not tried in real life though...!

RP they accelerated towards your DH? That's insane - did they stop at the scene or drive off?

RP oh my goodness your poor DH! Glad he is not too badly hurt! And grr to badly behaved cycles!

CD1 here No Christmas bfp for me - any other berries still in the running for one?

Morning berries!

How are we today? I had a busy but lovely Saturday, today will be a lazy one me thinks

I see there has been some nakedness in my absence lol

Wow feather that's a bit deep for a manlump (great phrase Boodle) but it is true, we shouldn't be jealous of their bumps and babies coz its not theirs we want! Easier said than done though!

RP that's awful about your DH, hope he is doing ok

Blue boo to the evil witch arriving

CD9 here, heading into shag week, but can I really be bothered?!? Last month for an ironidiff! Not sure I have the energy with Christmas to deal with!

rp that's awful, are the police involved? Did the driver stop?
Totally agree feather, positive thinking is good and spending too much time looking at other people's lives is not healthy. Spoke to a friend yesterday morning who said that sometimes you just need to wallow for a bit to get it out of your system and then move on. So I think a bit of both is the way forward. I wallowed for a couple of days and got really upset and did the 'it's not fair' thing, but managed to then come out of the dark place and back into the light to concentrate on my own little journey, which will at some point, and by whatever means, result in a baby/child!!

Still no bloody idea what the hell is going on inside me. Usual problem of my AF being little more than spotting means I'm totally confused again. Spotting on Thurs night. Very light bleeding on Friday (a pantyliner would have been more than sufficient all day) which is normal so I started the clomid and then nothing yesterday, and nothing today. Now wondering whether I should have held of taking the clomid as this might not be AF yet, but the consultant said to treat any bleeding as cd1, so I've done what I was told. Didn't see a problem taking it as my temps didn't show ovulation last cycle so jo chance of being pg but I don't know for sure if clomid would affect my temps, seems it does for some people and not for others. Very confused and muddled .

held off not of.

blue sorry AF got you . Onwards and upwards to the next cycle!

Afternoon all,

RP sorry you've had such a horrible time and awful for your DP. Hope you both have a proper break over Christmas to relax.

Blue sorry AF got you.

Feather wise words from your DH.

Festive waves to all other berries!

I'm desperate for Christmas holidays to arrive... Before them I have three lots of bloods - CD21, then 23 & 25 for good measure. I didn't even ask Santa for track marks Note to self: outfit for Christmas dinner with in laws must have long sleeves!

Barking that does sound extremely confusing.

Bunny yes indeed..... You know one day soon there will all be other women jealous of our bumps.....

The driver who hit DH stopped and DH apparently called him a fucking idiot, the guy shouted sorry and drove off! DH says he was older and seemed shaken, and DH reckons he may have got confused between brake and accelerator. Or, as it was semi pedestrianised, that he reckoned DH was in the wrong bit and tried to make a point, but then it backfired.

No police involved. I keep nagging him to go to a dr but he won't though he is still in some pain, 8 days later. bloody men

Urgent Berry advise needed!!

As briefly as possible as I know I'm repeating myself:
+opk on cd21 but no coverline temp rise.

Spotting on Thursday evening which was cd27 (I have v light AF this is always how it starts)
V v light AF on Friday morning so started clomid on Fri night. No bleeding yesterday, no bleeding today and in the shower this evening (had a little rummage as you do) noticed CM that definitely wasn't AF.

I've never spotted and then stopped, it's always been AF.

I don't know if the clomid messed up my temps (didn't temp to the end of the last clomid cycle due to holiday & time zone complications) or if I didn't ovulate despite the +opk showing a surge.
I've pimped as I spotted last time and assumed it was AF but even if I did Ov after the +opk (so cd22 which would be normal for me) and the temps don't mean anything I'd only be 7dpo so that wouldn't tell me anything. Temps are still weird and below normal coverline so that itself would I assume rule out a bfp anyway?

Do I keep taking the clomid as I've already started, or stop and abandon it?! Need to decide in the next couple of hours as I take it in the evening!!

hi all.

feather wow some v sage words there from your other half - what a dude.

what's all this nakedness then. far too cold to be taking one's clothes off i'd say. I had to get half naked for my ECG last week (part of pre-op before my laparoscopy) and they'd only just put the heating on in the hospital - really unpleasant.

barking so sorry to hear your woes and hope you're feeling a bit better this eve.

rp do hope your DH is ok. that happened to my sister's DH not so long ago - gave us all a bit of a fright.

mrs W know what you mean - i've had two bloods in the past week and my bruises look well dodgy.

i've sort of given up thinking about ttc whilst waiting for Lap (and dye and whatever else they'll be doing in there)... Problem is it'll be a few days after I ovulate... DH is wondering what would happen if we did get lucky this month before they did the op... Does anyone know?

Bloody hell, rp, that's terrible! Hope he's ok - if he still feels off you should def drag him to the docs.

barking hmm. Tricky one. I was told not to take clomid until there's a "full flow" as day 1 counts from first day of proper bleeding rather than spotting. Might be worth calling NHS direct? What clomid day are you on now?

blue sorry af got you

What's everyone up to? I'm trying to will myself to get up and wash my hair and not think about tomorrow afternoon's scan.

Re DP's comment - I wish I could be as level headed as him sometimes, but as some of you have said, wallowing for a bit isn't a bad thing. He's totally right though. Feel v. lucky to have such an amazing fella.

Aquarius - the naked thing started a few threads ago when the HQ went quiet! It was effective at getting people back in and telling you to put your clothes back on commenting again!

This is where the nakedness started

Oh, those were the days! I'd forgotten the sausage shuffle!

feather today would be clomid day 3. My AF is strange. Usually 6 days long, most just spotting, only one day needing a tampon and that is only a 'light' not even a regular. I was intending to try taking clomid days 5-9 instead, but given my temps suggested no O I figured it was safe to start taking it again. And I also just forgot......

Those were the days Boodle...when my TTC cycle count was still in single figures . Wonder what happened to some of those Berries? CaptainMoll, Haycorn, Frogcatcher..??
By the way Boodle have you changed your name??

barking might be worth calling nhs direct and asking. Not sure what to advise you to do. If it were me, and I was sure that what I was having was not a period, then I would stop the clomid and see a doc. I can't get over the fact that you're taking clomid totally unmonitored. I think it's a disgrace!

Captain is a besh I think

My experience of NHS direct has always been complete rubbish, and last time I spoke to a gp she didn't have a clue about clomid. I think I just need to jump in and make a decision! Given my temps I would say the chances of being pg or even having O'd is ridiculously tiny, so I'll just keep taking the clomid. If I stop now I've used up this round anyway. Next cycle I will try 5-9 instead!
Fingers crossed I won't have made my fkd cycles even worse!!!

Don't think I can offer you any advice on your strange cycles Barking, they are quite puzzling. Hopefully they'll settle down now.

Just bought "Waiting for a baby" by Sabrina Sargeant on Kindle - only 77p! It's all about IVF. Not sure if it's any good or whether it will lead to me obsessing about stuff but will give it a go.

Happy - I changed the 9 to a Doo; not sure why! To quote Sheldon: What is life without whimsy?

Sorry for all the af confusion barking. I'm in a similar boat trying to work out when and if mine started. I went for acupuncture on Thursday and on Friday sat and today I've had spotting, only cd25, so early for my af to get here. Need to book in for my cd 3 blood test again (hoping the first ones were wrong). think I'm going to wait for full flow.

RP, sorry to hear about you DH. Definitely drag him to thd doctors next week if he's still not feeling right.

My thermometer has arrived btw. Temping has commenced!!

Have you started a FF chart win? The app is very good.

Still no bleeding here. Either AF lasted less than 24 hours or that wasn't AF and another cycle is already screwed up because I've taken the clomid at entirely the wrong time. Balls.

I need to speak to the consultant but don't know how easy that will be....

barking I think you should call his/ her secretary and say you are worried you are wasting the drug because it's not clear when to take it. It isn't fair on you for them to be effectively wasting your chances like this - I'm guessing you only get so much clomid - by not giving clear guidance!

yy to Fertility Friend - it has changed my life in the sense that I stick a thermometer into my mouth at 6.15 every morning even Sundays

I called his secretary earlier rp and explained the problem. He wasn't there so I've asked for a call back after 3.30 tomorrow if possible.