Emmsys Weebles - the one where we insulate the greenhouse & pass round the mulled wine

[CloudOfStarlings]

A new wintery thread :)

They definitely do. He makes me smile stupidly every day and I still can't believe we have him. Good idea on taking a video, he makes me cry with laughter because its so funny, he opens his mouth so wide and makes mmmm noises lol.

He sounds so cute

He is tonight he had a new combination of potato and veggies with cream cheese, he pulled some hilarious faces

love their first tastes of food moon, and the funny faces they pull

well tonsils and adenoids are out but we caught a gastro bug so only got out of hospital yesterday. both still got the bug buy feel loads better than we did.

Oh no Rumours. What a shame. There's just so many bugs going about.
Hope you are both back to fighting fit soon and you see an improvement in sleep.

aww rumours what bad luck, glad to hear you're feeling better hope ds recovers quickly, I'm sure he'll be up about in no time, like the calpol ad

Hugs rumours :( that's rubbish!
Ds2 threw up in the car on Friday night on our way to my sister's in London (pretty sure it was travel sickness- horrible windy, rainy journey!) and that was just urrgghhhhhh so can't imagine a gastro bug is very pleasant :( glad to hear you're both on the mend though and here's hoping for MUCH improved sleep!!

moon so so lovely to hear you saying you really feel motherhood suits you :):) we all knew it would!!

shroom how are you getting on??

Ah Rumours poor you and Ds, sounds rotten, hope you're both feeling better now?

Shroom I've not even posted since your beautiful birth story! I bet you just keep on staring at your lovely girl?! Ditto on needing you to put a profile pic up of her please?! Do you feel strange to be hanging up your ttc and pregnancy boots up? I know I did/do after sooooo many years of it!

Cloud are you still in London? How horrible for Ds being travel sick... Weather deffo can't of helped.. It's been sooo atrocious!

Ahhh Neeko I feel the same about selling baby stuff, got their bath to put on eBay and feel stupidly sentimental about it!

Moon I started early weaning too and our little chunk adores his food! Finding myself getting stuck on ideas now, like to do big batches but don't wanna bore him!

All good here, had Teddy's christening last Sunday which was beautiful, our lovely vicar married us,& did both christenings, and lots of prayers along the way, so very special. .. Enjoying half term too after eternally soggy school run, been nice and busy and took Summer on her first cinema trip yesterday to see Tinkerbell, which she loved! Today it's DHs birthday so off out for a meal later, got him grow your own peanuts and adopt a shark amongst other things! Ooh just trying the boy on some bread so gonna see how he gets on!

Sorry for being a stranger but been lurking like everyone else!

Hi 4ever sorry only just saw your post been mad week with my bro & his family staying.. no we were just in London for the weekend, had lovely time though, went to natural history museum..boys LOVED the underground! Next time we'll have to just do trips around the circle line
Glad all going well with weaning!

Ahhh hi cloud! That's a coincidence! We had Summers first school trip the day after the christening, to Natural History museum! Their term topic is Dinosaurs, so after a crazily busy christening weekend, the next morning I embarked as a volunteer with 90 3 and 4 year olds! That was a frazzled face! Loads of parents volunteered so was one adult to two children, was fun, and Summer loved it, but sooooo exhausting! Longest I'd ever left Teddy too so lucky Dh got to stay home and chill with him!

Hi girls just a quick question I'm 17.4 weeks been feeling baby move for about 3 weeks . Been feeling flutters everyday so far . But for the last 2 days not felt anything should I be worried

Ah mrskate Been there, sure absolutely everything is fine, but for your own piece of mind, I'm sure your ante natal team offer a walk in clinic and would check you over tomorrow to be on the safe side.. I do remember though that around that stage movement wasn't necessarily as prominent as later on so could just be how babies lying (behind placenta or something) that makes you feel less... Im sure all is well though!

Just dashing on to help put your mind at rest mrskate - I had this with dd, but was told that you are expected to feel regular movements by 20-something weeks (is it 24?) so until then the movements can be sporadic or it may be that the baby is just in a different position and you can't feel the movements so much. Try not to worry. I know with our history it's impossible not too, but if you've been feeling the baby move before now chances are that it's growing nicely and is doing well Hope that helps!
I do second 4ever though, get in touch with your midwife if you're still worried tomorrow. It is always worth doing that, even if you feel you may be worrying unnecessarily. We went in three times with dd due to worrying about lack of movement They always told us to come back again - they would much rather know about any worries you have and them be unfounded than you not say anything...
Please let us know when the baby starts being more active again
PS I found with dd that she would have a few really active days and then a much quieter one or two days, maybe it could be the same sort of pattern with your baby

I did write a massive long post last weekend, but then the blinking iPad crashed and I lost it all I just didn't have time to do it all again! Will try to post some pics but can't do it from iPad as it won't let me upload them for some reason. All fine here, dd is an absolute delight, such a sweetheart She's feeding well and growing nicely, and sleeping like an angel - between 6 and 8 hours in one go each night! We can't believe our luck. She was one month old on Friday, can't believe how fast the time is whizzing by I love this stage so much, wish time would slow down a little!
Anyway, will be back soon to do personals but dd's been asleep for over an hour already so must go to bed. She starts grunting and making really loud noises after a few hours and am struggling to sleep through it, so must take advantage of the quiet time while I can

Hope everyone is okay, I shall be back soon xxx

Thanks shroom and 4ever I've got a appointment with a midwife at half 2 still nothing today either tried bath tried jack talking to it dh to talk to it but nothing

mrskate hope all is well, I'm sure your little monkey is just resting. I know I didn't feel much on a regular basis til after about 20 weeks, and it may be you have an anterior placenta which means you wont feel as much movement. Have a hug and come back and let us know how you get on

That's great you've got an appointment, hope it reassures you
Please let us know how you get on!

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All is well just got a naughty bean that likes to scare me .midwife so helpful and reassuring I was upset that I was wasting her time but she said that is what she is here for to keep mums happy . Happy mum happy baby x

Yay she is quite right, that's what they're there for and if it puts your mind at ease then job done. You did the right thing, no point in worrying unnecessarily, at least you can sleep easy tonight

mrsk so glad all is ok! Cheeky baby!
shroom wow! Sounds like you have a perfect little girl :) you so deserve an amazing baby after everything you've been through! So glad you're enjoying it all so much.. but yep, it goes way too fast!

4evee wow, brave going on a school trip! Sounds fun though! We're on half term here now so I have some long days ahead of me at least it's sunnier today!

Yay mrskate! Love our wonderful midwives eh?! They do such a great job! So glad you're reassured and always better to be on the safe side..

Awww Shroom snap on wanting to slow down time, my little fella is 7 months now and I miss the newborness! Especially knowing we won't be doing it again! I can't believe Lily is a month already! She sounds adorable and perfect, and I can't wait to see a pic!

Cloud yes, crazy brave was one of many words that sprung to mind re that school trip! Half term over here, back to school today! Hope you have a fun packed and sunny one! Have rather stupidly allowed a post school nap, will regret it later I'm sure, but Teddy sleeping too, and though I could be sensibly getting on with stuff, I'm in 7th heaven just sitting down curled up with them!

Anyone watching OBEM tonight? I'm a bit torn (wrong word! ) have always loved it, but am scared of uprooting quite a deep sense of sadness that I'll never do it again myself, and moreso the very deep sadness that I know will be uprooted, of DH missing Teddy's birth, and the fact I do actually feel quite traumatised and a bit cheated by the sheer speed in which my 1cm- 10cm dilation happened (90mins ) and the intense excruciating pain of my ridiculously quick labour with no drugs, and hardest to bear, no Dh, actually happened... Just seems so unfair after all we went through, with Dh at my side through all our losses, all our s and and apts, then world's quickest midnight induction means he missed it.. Sorry that all kind of poured out, I have actually momentarily thought about speaking to someone about it, I did request (& pay) for my notes, so I could try and piece it together and make sense of the crazy blur, I feel gutted Dh can't do that for me, and that he never saw the intense primal labour and birth pain I went through, so very different from Summers epidural and controlled forceps delivery in theatre. .. Oooh sorry ladies, talk about floodgates! [embarrassed] Don't dwell cos it can't be changed, and the important thing is the end result, healthy mum and baby, but.... seeing ads for OBEM brought it all back, cos think it maybe hard for us both watching happy couples and crying new dad's. ..

Ah 4ever I do feel for you, I can imagine you must feel cheated and totally get what you say about dh being at your side through all the bad times and would have been nice for him to have had the closure of seeing teddy arriving as the final bit of the jigsaw. My little man blurred the days and hours but dh could make up the blurry bits for me so I understand where you're coming from. Easy for me to say, but please don't beat yourself up about it, you couldn't have known how things were going to pan out and as you rightly say, you're both fit and well and safe. If you think you need to speak to someone to be able to 'put it to bed' then I think that's absolutely understandable and it if it would help you to make peace with yourself then you should look into it. Big hugs to you, and just think how far you've come

No time for longer post, sorry girls, back soon.

Ah 4ever I totally understand too - I absolutely love watching birth/midwife shows (have recorded tonight's OBEM, prob watch tomorrow) but it also makes me SO emotional to watch them because of the way my births didn't work out the way I wanted them to and I had long recovery periods from them both. Of course I love seeing a healthy delivery etc but can't help all those feelings coming back of wishing it could have been different for me.
Was just talking to a friend today actually about how emotional we still get over the whole giving birth thing - I think it never leaves you, it changes you forever (no matter how you labour/deliver)
It is so sad that your dh didn't experience that with you I can't imagine how that feels :( but we can't control the way it goes and we just have to accept what happened and try to live with it. (I'm preaching to myself here too - I still struggle with issues from both my ds births)
I think it prob is important to talk it out with someone...thankfully I have a very close friend who went through almost the same things as me so we talk about it quite regularly which really helps.
Did you end up watching obem tonight?

Oh 4ever (((hug)) I think talking to someone will help you put some of your residual feelings to bed, maybe even take DH? I know we all know a healthy baby is all that matters but we so prepare ourselves for the birth and us lot especially after hardly daring to believe we'd even get there. Try and reflect on the amazing elements, primal birth, no medical intervention immediate cuddles and perfect 10 fingers 10 toed baby

I wasn't even awake when Isaac was delivered as my epidural was wearing off and they had to knock me out. DH had to take him out the room while they fixed me and it was the longest 10 mins of his life. Did I feel robbed as I didn't get skin to skin and him flopped on my tummy, yes a little but he was given to me after I came to, latched on straight away and I just almost exploded with happiness. Benjamin - another long labour another section and regrets, feeling my body let me down AGAIN but he was here and all was well. I've had many a moment wondering if I could have done anything differently, I've spoken to midwives which did help but you know life throws us curve balls and we just have to catch them. This thread is so very lucky in lots of ways, so many babies and all of them happy and healthy xx

4ever I just watched obem and so weird, one of the stories was just like yours! how bizarre is that! But it was so lovely to see how emotional the dad was about walking in to see his baby there, and how he was also first concerned that his wife was ok.. I bet your dh felt that way too, having seen you go through so much crap the last 4/5 years I bet he was elated just to see you ok & with a perfect baby in your arms :)

Hi lovely blue :)