The Elderberry Pavlovas and the eternal hope for a fresh, springy and healthy Palace of the Child! (thread 15)

[Bunnygirlie]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

So sorry Yorkie, even though we know it will be BFN there's always a chink of hopefulness in the back of our minds so we're still terribly disappointed when we get BFN or AF. Hugs.

Good luck today Barking, let's hope for some progress. X

Sorry yorkie

Sorry posted too soon. Barking hope the dr's has good news - or just at least something helpful to suggest!

AF just finished, so waiting a few days and then here we go again....

Sorry yorkie. Have faith that it WILL happen one of these days. xx

sorry yorkie that's pants . Do you know what you're doing re tablets and when to stop taking them?

kitty I know, that's why I said it skipped me for this cycle, but also why I'm impatient to get started again sooner rather than later, before my body shuts back down!

Just spoke to a woman at work (the one who took 7 years to get her first pg) and said I was prepared to turn on the tears with the gp if I thought it would help get me the tablets and she pointed out that I wouldn't need to, after explaining everything that's happened if they said no I'd be in tears anyway. Fair point .

Thanks for the good vibes, will update when I'm back!

yorkie hugs to you x

No joy. Wouldn't prescribe me anything and actually advised me I should take a break and not try to get pregnant again straight away as she'd had a mc then got pg again straight away and 'it's basically a year of being pg and it's tough on your body'. She's referred me back to the fertility clinic and said I should get an appointment in 2-3 weeks.....

Arse she wasn't of more help barking. Have you spoken to the epu? They told me to ring them direct after my mc. To be honest I think you can't underestimate the positive healing effect of being pregnant after miscarriage. Psychologically at least it's one thing that helps the process of dealing with the loss. It doesn't make it disappear and doesn't cancel it out or anything but it can help an awful lot!

Firstly thanks for your lovely messages of support. Had a sob in the toilet at work and feel a bit calmer. Rang fc and was told as I hadn't started bleeding yet I have to retest in 48 hours and then stop the progesterone. In the meantime I may start bleeding and to stop if I do. No thoughts on another IUI yet, just need to process the bad news and get over that first before I can think what to do next. Feel like we've just wasted money we can't afford ATM.

Secondly, barking WTF!!!!!!!!!! I am Soooooo pissed off for you right now. If your GP is going to bring personal experience into it then surely she should understand why you want to just start trying again and how frustrated you must feel. So how long are you expected to wait before they are prepared to do anything to start AF? Did she even offer any advice to you other than wait?

So sorry Yorkie
Sorry too Barking that you didn't have any joy with the GP.
She obviously didn't struggle when TTC if she suggested taking a break. Fx AF turns up soon for you

Barking can you afford a private GP appointment? Your GP sounds frankly shit and I would complain and book an appointment with a different person

Yorkie she said to me that she didn't have a problem giving me the drugs but this wasn't her area of expertise so would rather speak to someone else for advise first. She rang the hospital while I was in the room. I don't know what the consultant was saying as she didn't pass that on but the upshot was that I should go back to the fertility clinic. So it wasn't just a 'wait' but when she said the appointment would be in 2 to 3 weeks I was clearly upset and when I said it was just more waiting that's when she decided to share her personal opinion with me.

Happylass I doubt she was trying long (or in her mid thirties either) when she mc and got pg again, but she obviously wasn't going to be any further help so I didn't see the point in saying that she clearly didn't understand my situation.

merk private is not an option. There's no point going to a different gp as the referal has already been made to the fc so no gp will do anything else in the meantime, I'll just have to wait for the appointment.

It's a bugger but I've cried about it and now just need to get over it and move on. Who knows, AF might actually arrive by the time I see the consultant. In which case I assume I just cancel the appointment?

Advice not advise!! Grrr.

barking if af does come I'd just delay the appointment. Tell them you're not ready emotionally and ask them to delay it a few months. Then at least you've still got that as a back up.

yorkie how you feeling bud? I don't know what to suggest re more iui. Think I said before that the fc said its most likely to work the 1st or 2nd time if it was going to work but then on the other hand I guess you don't want to fork out cash for something that may not work. Still hoping for a late bfp

barking I'd be seriously surprised if they turned you down. From what I know of your situation, Clomid is the natural next step.

Got my 21 day blood results - 52.3 - which confirms that I ovulated. I'm happy on that front, but the likelihood of pregnancy is very, very slim. The follicle that was triggered was on my right ovary, where I don't have a Fallopian tube. - I hate the 2ww.

Hope everyone else is ok. Sending you hugs again yorkie

Barking I am so cross on your behalf! Sorry but your GP sounds massively unprofessional. How unhelpful! Could say more but it wouldn't be productive....

Kitty speaks much sense about possibly gaming the fc appt if you get your period, as a plan B.

I am having a shitty stressy day today with lots going on at work, and prob not going to be able to take a weekend. I know I should feel lucky to have a job, and I do, but just so tired right now, and got home to find fucking arsehole British Gas have illegally tried to switch us to them so on the phone to them right now to explain that no, funnily enough, we didn't want you to randomly take over our electricity supply, you fuckwits.

I might rename myself CheeryPeasant!!

cheerypeasant that is a good name. Sorry your day has been bad will help?

yorkie sorry to hear your news

barking sounds like you haven't had the best day either, I hope AF arrives soon.

I've been uber busy since getting back from holiday, funny how quickly you forget what it was like to be away. I haven't had any of the blood test results back - should I be contacting my GP for them? FC appointment has come through for 27 November, which seems pretty quick; I'm 39 in a few days though so if my old GP was anything to go by I'm too late for NHS funded IVF anyway. I guess the appointment should shed some light.

CD 25 here and AF symptoms are starting despite all of the relaxing we did on holiday.....

barking sorry - I didn't read the thread properly earlier as I was rushing out of work. Your gp sounds a nightmare and doesn't really have the right to tell you to take a break. Not sure why you have to see her instead of dealing directly with the fc? As someone else said, might be worth asking to see another gp or going private if you can afford it.

barking can you try and ring the fc and see if they are prepared to offer you a cancelled appt and ask to be considered for any appts that are cancelled. Long shot I know but worth a go?

I'm okay thanks kitty and I know I'll be ready to pick myself up and fight again in a few days. I've started spotting so just think I'm going to stop the progesterone now and wait for af. Going to go on clomid this cycle to try and keep NHS route open as we have another appt in Dec and they were expecting me to have had two clomid cycles by then. My private consultant has promised that it won't have any detrimental impact on my fsh levels but it prob won't work. We also have a private appt on Monday to discuss ivf egg sharing so will discuss the idea of another IUI cycle before Xmas but I'm not sure I want to do it.

RP sorry you've had a shitty day.

kuma you can either ring up your gp to get your results or wait for your fc appt and they will discuss the results with you there.

Great news you're ovulating feather but must be frustrating when it's on the wrong side to the one you want.

Lots to catch up on!

Balls! yorkie I hoped you were going to be the next lucky bugger! Grrrrrr and for you x

barking what a crappy doctor grrrrr for you too x

Balls to bt and work RP

Aargh to af symptoms kuma

It's all a bit depressing today

I have bad back, nasty mouth ulcer and behind at work so grrrrr here too!

Can I be so bold as to suggest that we get a fresh new thread? After the shitty day most have had, perhaps a fresh start is in order? Just a thought.

Ah don't worry RP we will soon bounce off the rug of rage, sofa of pity and bubble bath of gloom onto the pouffe of possibility and yellow brick road of positivity

Hello Berries.

Sorry I've not been around much but I've been trying to forget about ttcing really.

AF would seem to be on her way as spotting started about 5 days ago and is really getting quite full on now. However, I do have odd cramps across my stomach, along my knicker line. I'm sure its nothing though and AF will be here tomorrow. That means I will need to make an appointment at the IVF clinic to start my next cycle on my next day 1.

Oh yes, this will make your blood boil.
There is a woman I know who had a surprise baby about 5 years ago. She had dreadful cramps and it turned out she was in labour.
Well this week it turns out she has done the same again! She is due in ten days or so!! She claims she didn't know she was pg but we all know that is bullshit.

pip I know someone who kept her baby a secret for 9 months and told her mum when she was in labour. Although she was 15 and obviously knew herself!