The Elderberry Pavlovas and the eternal hope for a fresh, springy and healthy Palace of the Child! (thread 15)

[Bunnygirlie]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Hello!

Oh feather you must be feeling the pressure you poor thing. Hope your appointment goes well

mrsw I just read about the panda too, so sad

Ooh boodle 6 weeks isn't long at all. FX it's very quick for us both! Do you know what the process is for you? I am having more blood tests this week to get the ball rolling for us. The main FC will contact us and send us forms, then we will see the local FC to fill in forms and plan treatment [shocked]

Just adding myself to the list

Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, just had lap&dye, next step ivf/ICSI
Funky - 31. TTC since November 2012. A/w bloods and hycosy
Lady -34. TTC since Jan 2012. Having private IVF, cycle #1
Revolting - 34, ttc for real since May 2013 but with ishoos, AF due 23rd Oct
Yorkiebilb, 35, ttc since Sep last year. mmc last Dec. High fsh/high amh but no expert can tell me what this means. Currently on 1st IUI cycle.
mrsw - 35, ttc for real since May, endo caused by previous PID, AF AWOL for reasons none can explain, next step foot stamping for ref to FC
Happylass 35. Started TTC Aug 2012 but currently on a break for wedding purposes. Seeing consultant for first time on Dec 5th

kitty - 33, ttc since jul 2011, 8+5 today thanks to the wonders of iui
foody - 33,ttc Nov 2011, mc May 2013, 5+2 today, in self preservation denial

Delighted to hear things are moving in the right direction for so many of you. Berry HQ really is going to be deserted by the time I'm back on the TTC wagon! May have to go out on a recruitment drive

happy yeh but you'll get diffed on your honeymoon and won't need to

Has feather been in yet?

Hello. I'm here but still utterly miserable and can't drag myself out of it. Just want to cry every time I see pg colleague. She's naturally a very cheery, happy, smiley person anyway and right now it just seems to magnify how unhappy I am. Sitting here in tears again. It was RL people I waa talking about assuming it was all ok, not the lovely berries who understand. Had two friends now ask me how I was and when I said not good they asked me what was wrong. Both knew about the mc so I thought it was obvious? Might be time to stump up for private counselling but can't afford it this month (broken washing machine plus car tax plus MOT and garage bill).

Boodle can't believe the IVF seems to be happening so quickly (I'm sure it doesn't feel like that to you). In my area trying 6 months of clomid is one of the required hoops to jump through before they will refer you for IVF regardless of whether you are ovulating already or not.

Sorry to not reply to anyone else, just wanted to reassure everyone I've not topped myself just yet (bad humour, sorry) but will go away and wallow some more now as I don't want to fill the thread with misery or continue with the 'woe is me' bollocks I'm currently spouting. Life could be a lot worse I just can't make myself feel very lucky right now. CD 42 and still no sign at all of either Ov or AF. When it finally arrives I'll be back ttc and will come back and join your list bunny.

Good luck everyone, hope to be back soon.

Oh barking we've missed you, sending you hugs and x

Hi Everyone!

Well, lots of good vibes coming your way barking . I'm sure you may have thought of this already, but maybe speak to your gp or fc about referring you to some counselling? I thought they offered sessions but you may have already gone down that route.

mrswalker I read that story about Tian Tian too

Thanks all for your lovely well wishes. This morning went a lot better than I thought it would. I'm partial to a bit of melodrama every so often and fc appointments tend to set me off on one. Had some good news: that follie was 18mm on my right ovary so I got triggered. Should ovulate in the next 36hrs so going to pin the OH down as much as possible over the next few days - is it wrong to Dtd twice a day? Too much? And if I got the trigger at 10am this morning does anybody know when the optimal time is? Have done two opks (net cheapies! £2 for 30!) this afternoon and both are positive.

As for the meeting with the consultant, I panicked and forgot most of what I asked even though I had most of it written down. Basically, she said that the next step is iui with injectibles but I could skip that if we wanted and go straight onto the IVF waiting list. I asked her for her honest opinion on what she thought we should do and she said "if I were you, I'd give iui a few goes and then move on to IVF" and that she has no issue with me doing one more round of clomid at 150mg next month and then starting iui. We had to have our bloods done in preparation for iui and she said that if we change our mind, we can go straight onto the IVF waiting list - we get two free cycles on the nhs in our area. She also gave us forms to fill out for counselling if we want.

OH had a bit of a wobble on the way home. Think it finally hit him that his romantic ideas of us getting pregnant normally is not going to happen. We talked about it and he was very open about how he felt: scared and a bit worried that maybe 'the universe' didn't want us to have kids. That it was all too clinical. Told him that I understood how he was feeling but that he was talking rubbish! . think the counselling will be good for him as I think blokes tend to bottle stuff up.

Sorry to waffle on about myself and hijack the thread. Just started typing and it all just spilled out! Hope everyone is doing well and please add me to the list - I can't do it on this stupid iPad!

Feather, 34, TTC since September 2011. 5 rounds of clomid, moving on to iui in December 13 if last two rounds fail.

to all

Oh god! Hope I didn't kill the thread with my wittering!

hey barking thanks for popping in

Hey feather don't worry about wittering, we have all done it, I know I have!

barking you can cry on us as much as you like bud

feather 18mm sounds like a gudun! I got I inseminated impregnated about 38 hours later (although prefer to imagine it was the sperm from the bonus shag we had that night haha). Know I'm VERY biased but a go at iui can't hurt! I also had it with injectables rather than clomid. Re opks, it's not really worth bothering as the trigger shot is hsg so you're measuring that. Re dh feeling too clinical, know how he feels but it's a means to an end!

Hey all. I suspect the 6 week waiting list will just be to actually see a consultant and get the ball rolling. Or it could be complete nonsense as I got the 6 week figure off the hfea.gov site. I think the clinicself maintains that 18 weeks is about the norm.

Barking, I was meant to do 6 months clomid but I just pulled the nice guidelines on them and said I wasn't going to carry on with something that was officially advised against!

boodle I would call and ask to speak to a nurse about a realistic waiting time. My fc told me 4 months. In reality it was 7 but by 5 months I'd already had my little meltdown (I don't know if you remember how derailed I was in June). If my expectations had been realistic in the first place, I think I'd have handled things a whole lot better

Sorry Boodle got over-excited with my 'pg by Jan' nonsense Kitty speaks much sense about raised expectations....

God, the 2ww is boring. There is nothing to do but think ho hum, CD7, CD8, oooh am I feeling nauseous, no I just walked up that hill too fast.........

I'm having this weird thing where my temps have gone above 36.8 where they normally settle around 36.6 post-OV. Think I may be getting sick.....

Kitty how many weeks are you now?

Back to work today

Good luck bunny and take it easy x do you feel up to it??

Fc appointment has been changed from 5th Dec to Dec 19th . Know it's only 2 weeks but was such a long wait anyway and just feels like we are going nowhere at the moment. Was really hoping to have some answers or at least a plan of action by the time we start back TTC in new Year. Doesn't look like that will be happening now .

What a pisser, happy That is really annoying! Mind you, you never know what they might be able to tell you then, I suppose!

rp I read that as pg by 'jan' as in the woman's name! I do actually think I might have got pg by 'jan' as she's my acupuncturist haha! boodle has met her too!!!

Re 2ww, ironically my iui 2ww flew by and I had no symptoms! Unlike all the other months when I imagined the usual plethora of symptoms! I'm 9weeks today- eek! Roll on 12 week scan!

bunny hope today wasn't too gruelling

happy didn't realise you we're starting again so soon. What date is your wedding?

sid and barking if you're lurking, we're thinking of you

Evening! How is everyone?

Balls! happy that's crappy, only two weeks though, could have been worse (check me out being positive)

Pregnant by Jan

kitty work was ok thanks but I have a killer headache

Pre-ivf blood tests tomorrow so more holes in my poor body!

Kitty I am getting to a ridiculous place where I keep thinking I have no symptoms, and therefore, it must be that I'm about to get a BFP!

As though my body is pulling some weird reverse psychology thing on me. And as opposed to the much more likely option that it didn't work.......

I've got a colleague staying over the night I should get AF/ BFP - couldn't say no but argh!!

And Bunny and put your feet up. Blood loss and invasive treatment takes a while to get over, so treat yourself nicely!

rp always remember: symptoms = diffed, no symptoms = also diffed . How many dpo are you? Wouldn't worry about your friend staying over, merk and I are bound to talk you into poas before then anyway

bunny would say you deserve a glass of wine after today but perhaps just a nice cup of camomile tea??

RP keeping FX for you but I'm on your side if you wanna wait to POAS as I know certain others will be tring to drag you to the dark side, not mentioning any names

Thanks ladies, can't believe its been a week since my op, I wanna be recovered now!!!

Kitty when I say New Year for re-starting I may mean Feb or March! Fly back from honeymoon on Aug 30th so need to check dates so I'd be ok to travel then if by some miracle I did get upduffed straight away But keen to get started as soon as I can!

Bunny glad you made it through work but as others have said, take care and put your feet up!

Sending thoughts to Sid and Barking

8dpo and feeling a bit either crampy or AF-ish.... But no poas till I'm late!