The Brookers will get their BFP's by any means necessary, thats the definition of Brooking No Argument!

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Your last thread got somewhat derailed so I thought I would treat you to a lovely shiny new place full of real open fires, fluffy blankets and an aga for baking bread and warming soups and stews. Back on with the job in hand ladies, lets have a round up of who's doing what and when.

Scarlett that's a pain :( Was it you that does/did acu? Can that help cycles get back on track? Could easily be the DHEA still creating havoc.. :(

Maybe oooh a tall one, exciting! :) Maybe it could be an egg... not sure!

Geek only one more carol concert left here! Well, it's more carol singing than a concert per say - it's out in the town tomorrow, and I'm sax-ing! Fingerless gloves at the ready.. that and two lessons to go, and that's teaching and performing duties out of the way. Tonnes of work left to do on a commission due to be workshopped early in the new year though.. eek.

Cake when precisely is AF due? I'll take her instead, then she's guaranteed not to visit you

Looks like we may have accidentally given up BF here. When Iz had the bug, we realised something in the milk was making her wake up to be sick - I'm not sure if it was traces of dairy (normally fine with those, but maybe not ok on an empty stomach?) or that she was over-indulging as it comforted her, or whatever. Either way, we stopped her having it for a day or so... and she hasn't had any since. A little sad (and mega achey boobs!) but if this is the end, maybe it'll also help with getting my cycles back on track.

Ah scarlett what a pain, hope you are rid of AF quickly and your next cycle is back to normal

musical now you have stopped NF you must be much more likely to get your regular cycle back?

Adding cramps to my list now, feeling distinctly AF-like, AF due tomorrow/Sunday. Not feeling so sick today, I think I just had a weird turn yesterday evening, I was totally convinced I was going to be sick but then I got over it!

maybe lovely to hear about your tall baby

Sorry, BF not NF, I can't type on my iPhone my fingers are too fat

Well the kind of good news [in a twisted kind of way] is I have sore boobs and cramps For the first time in months so seem to be getting back to a semblance of normal...

musical I used to do Acu, have started again this week but just for relaxation really to keep myself 'balanced'

That's great news Scarlett. Hope the accu starts to help.

Cake hoping the cramps don't come to anything.

AF has found me sadly mulled wine and a slab of pâté tonight I think...

Ah I'm sorry Cake. Enjoy the pate though..!

I'm hoping stopping BF will help get my cycles back quicker. Of course, having been on the pill it could still take some time. Last time they came back (albeit irregular) quite quickly I think, but we'll see. I wasn't necessarily intending to completely stop so soon or suddenly, but it seems to have worked for DD, so makes sense I guess.

Scarlett, that's great news that some semblance of normal is returning. Hope the acu helps too. I've never done it (used to be afraid of needles, though slightly better now) but have heard wonderful things about it. Very tempted to see if it'll help my back/hip/leg pain when it flares up.

Not sure what's going on here - as per usual. Mega mega bloating for the past couple of days (looked about 6 months pregnant), but has suddenly disappeared. Not sure what to make of that!

Oh Cake, I'm sorry. Hope you enjoy your festive treats though.

Musical you poor thing. It's not fair! Why do our bodies have to play silly buggers?!

Thanks maybe and musical on to the next month...I'm feeling quite down about it, not helped by Facebook announcements and a visit to someone with a newborn coming up i'll be ok when I'm back at work tomorrow and too busy to think about it! I know it was my decision to stop ttc for a year but it's just that we made the decision to try for a baby in march 2011 so it feels like it's been such a long time.

I hope the brookers are all having good weekends?

cake the bonus of AF in residence this weekend is, shag week will be Christmas week, guaranteed bonkeroonies

scarlett hopefully this is the start of you getting back to something more normal in that case! Brooking that it doesn't take long to get into a decent routine again.

maybe that's excellent news! Hopefully tall won't mean big-headed (in the nicest possible way). How long have you got to go now?

musical well done on accidentally giving up bf, this should move things along nicely now. Any idea where you're body's at these days? How did your final concert go? I've often looked at street performers playing instruments in winter and wonder how they do it. I can't even play guitar in a slightly chilly room, let alone outside!

cake so sorry that AF arrived. It's miserable, isn't it, especially when you then have to be happy for others. Take some time to be kind to yourself x

Yesterday's meetup with the fabulous, amazing, brilliant boo, toddlyboo and booby was just out of this world. Thank you so much for coming down and I'm just sorry our train meant we had to work to a timetable xxx

In other news, we received a very short notice invitation from MrG's DS to go down there for a pre-christmas meetup and a chance for me to meet MrG's DS's girlfriend (this was actually spelled out, by name, in the email!!!) so of course we had to jump at the chance. We left here just after the lovely boo started travelling back to Boo Towers and had a really relaxed get-together yesterday evening. MrG has now received his first Christmas present from one of his children in over 13 years

It's so tough Cake. And announcements always seem to come at the worst time! Scarlett has a point though, boozy festive sex at ov time

Oh Geek what an amazing weekend you've had!! I bet MrG was bowled over! And you got to play with Boo!! Jealous is not the word!! How's that throat now? I am 26 weeks today, less than 100 days to go

Glad to hear the Boo meet up went wonderfully Geek - rather jealous! :) How wonderful that Mr Geek got his first Christmas present from a child in 13 years too - that's amazing! He must be over the moon, both at that and the invitation in the first place. Hope you both had a wonderful evening.

Final concert went well thanks! Only two more lessons and a Christmas party to go :) It was out in the freezing cold... I was only playing for 30mins but hands and mouth were struggling in the end - and music kept trying to escape (very blustery!).

Giving up BF is one thing, but my boobs are sooo painful. Hoping it subsides soon! Still not sure where my body's at. Probably time for the weekly PIAR tomorrow morn, although I don't think much has happened. Some potential AF or ovulation like cramps, but who knows.

Cake, lovely, sorry to hear you're feeling down about it. It's so hard when there's babies around and things all over FB. Although I've only just started TTC this time round, when I first started all the memories came back of last time - and I started finding pregnant FB friends' updates hard etc. Have now taken most of them off of my news feed as a result.

Hope all the busy-ness at work has helped take your mind off of it a bit... and hope you're looking forward to your festive shagathon

Hi all, just popping by to confirm that Geek is a fabulous amazing lovely lady herself we three had a fantastic day, though K was still perplexed that you hadn't got your boobs fixed yet

The arrival of two new brooking twins must mean there's some BFPs soon to come, surely? :)

Thanks for your lovely comments everyone apologies for my minor hormonal melt down, work is a good healer (weirdly) and I'm much better today!

geek sounds like a lovely weekend, really pleased for MrGeek

musical good luck for tomorrow's PIAR action!

Cake no need to apologise for the meltdown. That's what we're here for! Glad work has helped :-)

Here to report my weekly BFN! Come on AF, where on earth are you?!

Music sorry about the weekly BFN. Grrr it must be so annoying not knowing what's happening.

Geek looks like you had a lovely time with the Boos. Great news about the free drugs and MrGs DS.

Cake don't apologise about the meltdown, we've all been there. Ttc is tough no matter how long it takes. Its so hard seeing stuff on Facebook etc when it's what you want so badly. Glad to hear keeping busy at work has helped.

Scarlett it hope your cycle settles down soon now you've stopped the DHEA.

Sorry I've not been around. Had a very busy few days at work. Not much to say, just waiting for IVF drugs to be delivered.

Very annoying Cups. As I said to DH, I don't mind the BFN so much.. but I do mind getting a zillion signs/symptoms that could be PG or AF and then absolutely nothing happening. At least AF would be a sign that my body was attempting to do something.

Also wouldn't be quite so bothered if nothing was going on. It's the cramps every few days... and then the (TMI) huge amounts of discharge that make you both celebrate and panic thinking AF has arrived.. only to find you've been tricked again!

cake, I know exactly what it is like, so don't worry. Oddly enough, Brookers' announcements seem to be immune for me, perhaps because I am conscious of the struggles that so many of us have had to get there, but I really struggle generally with people announcing their pregnancies/scan photos etc.

Anyway, DD2 is now sleeping through the night, so I hope that means that my cycle might settle down as we consider more actively TTC in the New Year. I was BFing when I got pregnant with DD1 (and had shingles, remember that?!) but I can't remember how much. Perhaps just twice a day? Perhaps I need to search old threads to find out!

Hey Dino I didn't realise you were back ttc. I hope the cycles settle down soon. I well remember you getting pg with DD1. Your rat smacking dedication was inspiring during the shingles!

I had such a rubbish day yesterday. I had to wait in for my drug delivery (which was meant to be delivered last Saturday but never came). Anyway come 2pm it hadn't arrived again. I then spent 2 hours arguing with the delivery company who wanted to try to deliver again on Christmas Eve while both of us are at work. They eventually agreed to courier it to me same day. They couldn't give me a time so waited in until 9pm when it eventually arrived. Also was meant to be having someone out to fit a new oven and hob for us and he didn't turn up either. I feel like yesterday was such a wasted day and I've now only got 2 days off in the next 8 days to get ready for Christmas. I've got the guy booked in for Thursday now to do the oven but I'm panicking it won't get sorted in time for Christmas

cups, I'm not really TTCing. We've not used contraception since DD2 was born (other than BFing) and would welcome a BFP, but we're not actually trying trying. Sorry that yesterday was a rubbish day for you. Don't forget that, between the drugs and the Brookers, next Christmas will be very different!

cups does this mean you are able to start stimming over christmas after all?? I must have missed that! Brilliant news :)

dino new year isn't far away now, you'll soon be joining us proper-like. Remind me what your previous name was when you were last ttc, I think you changed it just after giving birth and I've lost track. Sorry

musical sorry about your bfn, but brooking it doesn't make a habit out of it. You still have time to sneak a xmas bfp in!

Well, twunty lived up to his nickname, and I didn't get my jab today. Fingers crossed the million and one phone calls I then had to make will pay off and I can get it sorted for tomorrow (thankfully in a way that doesn't involve twunty contwuntant)

sorry for the bfn musical brooking really hard that you get some answers soon

sorry to hear you had such a rubbish day cups hope you get it all sorted before Christmas!

thanks dino, I think my hormones must have been savage over the weekend, I spent the whole weekend on the edge of tears but I'm totally ok now - stupid hormones, I'm sure I'll be back to crying next month! I kind of miss being on the pill! hope to have you back with us properly soon

ah geek what a nightmare. hope it all gets sorted tomorrow for you