Put on your capes and rub the Unicorn belly aka "my dear, please pour baby gravy on my egg!" - JUST SHAGGING PART 18!

[ZingWantsCake]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 17 is here

Happy shagging shaggers!

no grad thread link sorry, can someone else add this please?

Hi guys, it was the GP not the baby doc, I've got to book in for blood tests on CD1 and CD21, hmmm, as last two cycles have been 32 then 24 days this might be tricky. Soooo, seems next doc visit will be about 6 weeks away, then they might refer us.

Apart from that, two hours of intense cramps on CD15, guessing this is O day!

just popping in quickly to say, lentil if you think you are ovving today then try and get a blood test in for 7 days time, then thats your day 21 blood done, and you only need to do the other one - speeds things up a bit!

lentil you can get cheap pee sticks to check you're ovulating which may help predict when to have the 'day 21' test - otherwise it should be 7 days before your period so if you know on ave how long your cycles are you can try that.

Thanks for that, will do

Harrumph, no appointments available, so it will be 5 or 6 weeks

Everything takes so flipping long!

Wha?! Is that 5 or 6 weeks for a blood test app?!!

Yep, CD21 is 1 week's time, but no appointment that day, so would have to be next month.

Currently investigating costs of getting it done privately

Oh that's just mental, surely they can squeeze you in when it's time dependant!!! Silly sods.

can you get your gp to squeeze you in if you spoke to them?

Hi All,
Sorry I've been AWOL again. Work is just tooooo busy and I get so tired (no, not a symptom, you keen-eyed beavers!)

Min - so sorry for you. Is it definitely ERTD?

Maggie - hurrah! So chuffed for you.

Lentil - have you looked at going to a walk-in clinic? Near me they do one at the local hospital on a Saturday. Look online for your local services if you haven't already. Hi BTW - I'm Bearface.

Red - yikes - scary and exciting at the same time. I feel such a connection to you and your situation. Will explain all in a sec.

Cookie - why do you have to give up TTC???

Zing - sorry that you might be leaving us. It's been a joy having you here. What will we do without our mascot? (blub) Wishing you well though. Pop by and say hi sometimes

Hi to everyone else! Sorry if I've missed any other big news - not at all intentional, but I had MANY pages to read . . .

So, as for me. We had our long-awaited appointment today and as we have suspected for a long time, I am alright and the only barrier seems to be poor DH's sperm count and all the other spermy stuff. He feels so bad, bless him, even though I keep telling him it's not his fault. Anyhow, the upshot of it seems to be that we are being referred for IVF. We'll be referred over the next few days and not sure how long it might take or what kind of waiting lists there are, but the ball is now rolling it would seem.

DH feels bad that most of the burden of IVF would be on me, but I keep telling him that we don't have much choice - it's that or we probably will never have our own children. I don't really want to entertain that as a thought though.

I'm seeing it as a positive thing though because I know some people struggle to even get referred for IVF and all our referrals seem to have gone through successfully and easily, so let's hope it continues that way. I'll keep you posted. Lots to think about and talk through with DH, so obviously a trip to Le Pub is in order.

So, I feel a special connection to you Red as I feel like we've been in this together for a while now and we're both ending up at around the same point at roughly the same time, although it may take longer for me if there are waiting lists. (heart emoticon)

That is positive news bear, even if its been tough getting there. Poor DH, give him a big cuddle. Mine has his SA on Monday but we really haven't spoken about it. Trying not to in case it affects his... performance!

Hi lentil! Are there not any drop ins near you? We can go to the hospital here and just take a ticket and wait. Like a delhi counter! You could go on CD20 or 22 I think. Doesn't have to be 21 in case that makes a difference to appointments.

Dulcet - I meant to say- my first test showed I didn't ov and I was devastated. Turns out though that most women have anovulatory cycles every now and then where they don't ov, so it's quite normal every now and again. Get your blood test redone to check.

Oh thanks bear, that's interesting. Once he has his SA we go back to the docs so will ask for another test then. Did you ever do sticks? Cos I had a smiley this month when I did it to check so how can that happen if I don't ov?!

Did you get a rough date for the referral? I think a quiet corner in a lovely pub will be a great idea for your chats. One with a log fire maybe!

Hello lentil

Essie - sorry to hear about your troublesome day!

Zing - nooooo don't go!! Or if you must please come back and visit.

Bear - I am glad your ball is rolling.

I thinking I am oving now. So will avoid dtd this month but dh realised it was shit putting off ttc. So we will be trying next month.

Bear - we are looking at buying and dh wanted to save more and try later.

Hello again

Ah, ok, will take next Wednesday off and go to walk in clinic, private clinic to get back to me with costs tomorrow, so now I have choices.

I tried going back to GP who just said next month would be fine

It's good to be doing something, anything, apart from waiting

once again I can't sleep but tonight I'm googling whether this could be a pg symptom. I'm an idiot because the chances of a bfp this month are slim to none because I'm so stressed. I feel like my whole life is in limbo atm and there's nothing I can do about it.

morning everyone! and thanks for lovely messages!

I am not able to post on this thread for now, because someone is following me from thread to thread, saying nasty shit to me and about me.

But all of you are welcome to PM me, I hope you do!

have a lovely day!

Hi all.
Yes def was ERTD. Though a nice short one for once. Which was a pleasant change.
Nowt new here. Can't be bothered 'trying' anymore. Too much hassle so as of this month what will be, will be.
zing what an utter git, following you thread to thread, come back soon ya hear!

Just had a call from doc, who'd just got my request for a referral, said that if the nurse can't do it then we make a docs appointment for the blood test! Hurrah! Little triumphs eh?

Bear - I have the impression that man stuff is less complicated than lady stuff, therefore easier to fix?

Zing that is properly crap!! Report the fuck out of them. Grrr on your behalf.

thanks, I did some.
I just don't want them to keep bugging me and maybe best if I don't post very personal stuff for now.

I am not flonuncing, but if I have any news I won't post it just yet.
as I said PMs are welcome!

Oh bear, as you know I can totally relate to what you are going through, as well as your DH. It's been tough on mine, too.

Back in September, when I realized I'd reached my year anniversary on this thread, it really hit me how long the journey has been, and how in-step you and I have been the whole time! It feels liberating to have a plan, but it took awhile for me to feel that way - I had to get through all the other emotions first, like "why us?" and "can I really do this?" and "if this doesn't work..." You'll get there, too. Hopefully everything moves quickly for you and you can start soon!

My consult with the nurse today was mostly great; she went over the schedule and how to give myself the injections (using this really creepy torso-only mannequin). I start injections the last week of November. If all goes as planned, the egg retrieval will be December 6 or 7. I have to start taking birth control pills tomorrow to down-regulate my hormones prior to starting the injections. Isn't that ironic after all this?

The only thing I am concerned about is that I'm literally on the line of the BMI limit. When they weighed me this morning, I asked if I could take my clothes off and get back on the scale; I don't think she realized I was serious. It's literally a pound or two in question, and I am confident those and more will be gone when they weigh me again in two weeks. But, the nurse did tell me the doctor would probably want to discuss it, and sure enough, they just called to set up a phone consultation with her on Monday. I am afraid she is going to cancel my cycle and make me wait. I know this is not the end of the world, except that I have finally accepted (emotionally) that it is time to do this, and so I really want to just DO it. I feel very angry with myself right now for not getting healthy sooner. But I am also trying to be positive, since I've made such good progress over the past few months. No , no , just vegetables and water for two weeks !

Red - yes, I've been through those questions too already, but I think because I knew it would be on the cards, I thought about a lot of it a while back, so I guess we just need to choose a clinic and off we go. We talked about the 'what if it doesn't work' scenario, but I reasoned that if we don't try, we'll never know and it might be the only way for us to have a baby. It's good that you're losing weight - keep going and I'm sure it won't be a problem. It won't be long now before you'll be on your way - I have everything crossed for you and really hope that this is IT for you and your DH. X

Yes, Lentil - there's not much involved for the men - just some sperm and a cup. Women have a lot more to go through, but then, that's what my DH feels so guilty about. Oh well. It'll be alright I'm sure.

Hang in there Lil - you never know...

Dulcet - yes, I did do sticks so I knew when I ov'd. I think they're really useful, but I know not for everyone.

Thank you for all your positive messages about our referral. We're not telling anyone in RL because it will just be too much pressure and also because everyone seems to have an opinion about it and we're not interested. We just want to do our own thing, y'know? Weirdly, it kind of takes the pressure off (now I'll be imminently upduffed wishes, hopes, prays). The waiting list seems to be 4-6 weeks so we could be on our way either just before or just after Christmas. Weird to think that there's a chance I could be pregnant in a few months and could have a baby by this time next year. Not getting my hopes up too much as I know it doesn't always work, but I did have a bit of a fuzzy feeling inside today.

you know what, I'm not going to stay away.
I have something to say and I will say it (and it's "my thread"! )

so here goes:
I was due yesterday so I POAS this morning - and a had a thin line of positive!

I can't believe it!
And I can't keep it a secret from all of you!

(thanks bear for your pm, somehow it made me realize what's important!)

there. I feel better.

OMG! zing! That's fab! Will you get a digi to see it in writing? That means you can't leave us now!

We are on a sex ban here prior to the SA. Bit of a relaxing weekend for us both!