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The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

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funkymonk · 03/09/2013 20:23

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

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BlindKitty · 15/09/2013 10:04

I am panicking Sad

barkingtreefrog · 15/09/2013 10:12

You will panic kitty but just keep repeating to yourself it doesn't mean anything. Can you call your epu? They might be able to book you in for a scan. Lots of women bleed in pg, some quite a lot and they are fine and have no problems. Spotting is normal but it's going to worry you anyway, that's a given. Have a hand to squeeze as hard as you like until you see that little heartbeat Thanks .

Bunnygirlie · 15/09/2013 10:19

I know Hun, as soon as I typed it I knew it was a silly thing to say. Hugs x

BlindKitty · 15/09/2013 10:33

barking it's an emergency number. Will they even be able to see a heartbeat? I'm only 4 + 4

bunny I didn't think it was silly, I know you're just trying to help

Ok, my line was darker today, and it's just brownish discharge, (tmi) that's a good sign though yeh?

Bunnygirlie · 15/09/2013 10:39

I understand spotting is quite common, If it gets worse you should def call for advice x

barkingtreefrog · 15/09/2013 10:44

Brownish is very good. I was told the only bleeding I should be worried about was large amounts of bright red blood with clots.

Sounds like it could be implantation bleeding. This is 10-14 days after conception (ie later than ovulation) so fits with your dates. And no, they wouldn't expect to see a heartbeat until 6 weeks.

It's easy to say don't worry, but given the current facts I don't think you need to worry any more than you would be worrying anyway iykwim? Thanks

Thundercatsarego · 15/09/2013 10:59

kitty was about to type exactly the same as barking - could well be your implantation bleed. I think if you ring anyone they will say don't worry at all, and call back if you get red blood/clots and bad cramps.

barking I'm so sorry you're feeling so low chick. This is totally understandable and you must make sure you are not expecting too much of yourself. If I was with you, I would be making sure you are really fit to go back to work next week. If its a good distraction then there's a definite benefit to that but the work load sounds like its adding pressure.

With the coursework, have you told anyone running the course what's happened? You could get a doctors note if you needed to- surely giving you a couple of extra weeks isn't unreasonable. Don't forget, you are not well.

With recovery from miscarriage, you will obviously never forget, but the pain does fade. Especially when you get your next bfp. For me, it really has changed my outlook and approach and its an experience which has shaped my character. So in a way I'm not sorry it happened now, its part if me and part of my story. Obviously I didn't feel this at the time and it takes a fair bit of water under the bridge and a lot of ups and downs but just to show that it will be ok. You will come out of this and you will be fine- you've just got to be patient on the journey there. Which quite frankly totally sucks.

Bunnygirlie · 15/09/2013 11:44

Change of subject, althought still do to with knicker watch!

TMI - weird AF question - my AF usually 3/4 days but last month was only 2, this month it was only 1 and a bit days of proper period. It started off normal but by lunchtime yesterday it had stopped which is really odd.

Any wise berries know if weird/short AFs could affect fertility?!?

Thundercatsarego · 15/09/2013 11:54

I don't know anything about this bunny I'm afraid but I wonder if it might have a link with not very much lining? Just a thought- perhaps they're shorter if you've got less to get rid of?

CatsCantFlyFast · 15/09/2013 12:04

Bunny a 1 day AF would have me pimping

Bunnygirlie · 15/09/2013 12:31

Will talk to FC lady on tues thunder

Ah but merk it was a day and a half!

RevoltingPeasant · 15/09/2013 13:40

Hello all. Seem slime a bit of a sad day all round here. Today is my only day out of the office this week but it's pissing it down with rain and DH doesn't fancy going into town or for a walk.

Barking, I'm so sorry and would second the idea you should look into counselling. Can you and DP do anything nice for yourselves, like have a weekend break or even just s special day out?

AF due tomorrow but if it comes that will mean I have a 9 day luteal phase which Wikipedia research tells me is officially potentially problematic. I am desperately holding out for Tues or Weds..... But feeling v fat and spotty so think it's on it's way.

Wondering about going into town on my own and spending money I don't have....

BlindKitty · 15/09/2013 13:45

I would pimp anyway bunny

Ok so the acu called me back. They said there's nothing they can do until my scan in October as they don't do blood tests. I know this might be nothing but wish I didn't have to wait for 2 weeks Sad

Boodle9 · 15/09/2013 13:45

RP, until I started on clomid, I also had a 9 day luteal phase. Am convinced that it is part of problems with TTC. Clomid has lengthened LP to 15 days for the last 2 months, but still no sniff of a BFP so I've probably got other issues. You can always try vitamin B6 route as lots of people online have said it helped extend LP. Did bugger all in my experience though.

barkingtreefrog · 15/09/2013 13:54

bunny since I came off the pill 2 years ago I don't even bleed enough to use a regular tampon but the doctor, fc nurse, and fc consultant all seemed very uninterested.

barkingtreefrog · 15/09/2013 13:59

rp what is your normal LP? Mine was 8-9 days, I tried vitamin b6 and for one cycle it was 10 days but the next was 7 so I ditched that. The consultant dismissed my concerns about my short LP but my first cycle of clomid did result in a bfp even if it didn't stick.

BelissimaLol · 15/09/2013 14:09

Barking I don't think you need to go anywhere. We will help you get better. Having said that, counselling might help. don't tell me if you don't want to whereabouts in the country are you?
I think some things tend to tip us over the edge and we just need time to pick ourselves up. Like thunder said it does get better but I think you may need to give yourself a bit more time to grieve the baby you lost. Can you not get signed off for a week?
Lots of hugs x

barkingtreefrog · 15/09/2013 16:03

Bel I could get signed off for a week but work would in some respects just pile up, particularly linked to my extra responsibilities. I'm still weighing up what to do for the best. I am generally best being kept busy, and being part time is actually a bonus at the moment as it gives me the balance even if I'm bitter about losing out on a full time contract due to hopes of being pg
I will definitely call the gp to ask if counselling is an option.

thunder thank you for your wise words, as always Smile .

BlindKitty · 15/09/2013 17:26

Yes she is quite wise isn't she ?! Smile

RevoltingPeasant · 15/09/2013 17:47

Sorry was not trying to suggest you should go away barking Blush

Anyhow I have no idea how long my LP normally is because until recently I wasn't temping properly. However I do have a 26ish day cycle so unless I was OV by about what, CD14, then it'd be short I guess.

I'll see what happens next month and then start vit B. have also heard Angus castus is good....

Bunnygirlie · 15/09/2013 18:04

So FC on Tuesday, oh wise ones what do i need to do/ask/say?!?!?

Boodle9 · 15/09/2013 18:23

Remind me what you've had so far, Bunny. It seems to me that referrals to the FC are pretty inconsistent in what needs to have been done before it gets to that stage.

(For example, my doctor arranged swabs and dildo cam before I went to the FC.)

Bunnygirlie · 15/09/2013 18:44

boodle I have had day 3 test which was fine, three lots of day 21 tests, at least one showed I ovulate (one at least was on the wrong date). DH has had a few jizz tests, last one said low sperm.
FC letter says I should get dildocam at my first appt Shock

barkingtreefrog · 15/09/2013 19:16

They're all different Bunny but in my experience it doesn't matter what you ask or explain, they'll follow the standard script. Is this with the nurse or a consultant?

RP I'm not sure what you're apologising for, I didn't think you had asked me to leave?! Wink

Boodle9 · 15/09/2013 19:28

Ah, my dildocam was about 2.5 months before my first FC, but that was because of the long waiting list for my FC.

To be honest, I can't think of any specific questions or things for you to ask when you go. I tried to prepare before mine (wanted to talk about anaemia and thyoid issues, plus short LP) but was pretty much shot down on all counts.

Expect them to chuck clomid at you soon if not all your day 21 tests confirmed ovulation. 2 out of 3 of mine did (the other was done 2 days after ov due to short LP but she wasn't having a bar of that) but because one didn't she said I probably wasn't ovulating.