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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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nobeer · 24/08/2013 11:43

Share your experiences, worries, recipes, holiday recommendations. Swearing welcome.

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Badhairday76 · 08/09/2013 19:12

Obviously I am a newbie to all this but I heard that the FET transfer had a higher rate of success. Supposedly because if they survive the freeze, then the thaw, the embies are hardy wee buggers and this more likely to grow into a bouncing baby. X

Badhairday76 · 08/09/2013 19:16

I mean 'thus'. Bloody predictive text. Good luck, Twinks. Thoughtful, so sorry you have had two ectopics as well. Totally fucking shit, isn't it? I am still in shock over it all. Only way I can cope is to hate my tubes for killing the two babies, then I can be glad the bastards have gone. Sorry for swearing x

BrookerC · 08/09/2013 19:35

badhair you have every reason to swear as much as you like. I'm sure you will not offend anyone on here x

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 08/09/2013 22:17

Sorry about all the horrid ectopics thoughtful one and badhair.

I had LP, despite suffering from some of the nastier side effects: complete exhaustion and headaches combined with hormonal misery that reminded me of serious depression. Things improved on stims...

Pram I am one of those with 6 in the freezer and 1 embryo (became chem diffment) at ET. If you're funded you often don't have a choice.

Badhair I am 34, unexplained, they got 15 eggs (some immature, I reckon), 10 embryos, 7 high-excellent quality and now I'll be working my way through the freezer drawer. I gather that is a (very) good response for my age. They were pleased I stayed below 20 for OHSS risk.

AFM not much going on during the scan, one follie of 12mm, back Tues for another look, probably triggering Wed evening, picking up embie 2 next week.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 08/09/2013 22:21

The reason for the lack of choice when funded, of course, is that twin pregnancies are higher risk and on average are much more expensive to care for than singletons. So the aim of funded treatments is to produce singleton pregnancies, not a baby at any cost. It is a different mind set in health policy...

Also, my LP worked really well, but I hated it. If we do this again, we'll have to have a good think, as my own hormones tend to kick off strongly and early in my cycle, which make stimming me in natural cycles harder (we know from SO+IUI).

tametortie · 08/09/2013 22:43

Just wanted to share a bit of info that my Dr told me when I saw him a few weeks ago.

He is by and large a research fellow come clinical director which in laymans terms means he is a specialist in a research field. He has been a prinicipal investigator for embryoscope, DHEA, scratch, embryo glue and 3 vs 5 day transfer trials. And he said for everything he has ever run a trial on, he can hand on heart say that nothing is 100% for everyone. E.g. Embryo glue works best on women over 35, embryoscopes work best for couples with lots of poor embryos NOT lots of good embryos. It is all very very individual.

So, badhair please be advised by your clinic as to what is best for your individual situation. What works for one may not make sense for another to even try.

And I must say, I agree with euro that 3 day transfers do often work for a lot of women purely because a lab cannot mimic the natural environment totally. And we have to remember that general rules do not apply in fertility treatment. That's why we are all on different protocols, having EC on different days and not all having assisted hatching. Because we are individuals with treatment tailored to us.

resipsa · 09/09/2013 07:35

Miss good luck with scan today.

resipsa · 09/09/2013 07:38

Welcome badhair . You have been through the mill. Interesting back story with DS made 4 months in, too.

starsandmoonandback · 09/09/2013 07:39

Hello everyone! Oldies and newbies Grin
Sorry for my radio silence! I've been on holiday in Cornwall Smile a much needed break after cycling and a bfn.
Maryp, I'm sorry to hear your cycle wasn't successful, we've not been having too much luck on here lately Hmm sending you hugs.

Just wanted to mark my spot this morning as it seems to have deleted this Fred from my 'I'm on' section Shock

Ill be back later to go through more posts to try and catch up, although this Fred moves so fast, it's hard to keep up!!

I have a day 3 success story and never made it to blastocyst until my 4th cycle! Since then I've made it to blastocyst another 2 times. The first was a blighted ovum Hmm but the other 2 bfn's, so for me day 3 transfer holds the success. Can't help wanting to make blastocyst each time though as I'm 41 (just!) and they say the strongest ones make it, so my chances are higher....apparently!

I am definitely going to ask about the embryoscope for my next cycle. I don't know much about embryo glue, can anyone give me any info/advice on it please?

Chocolate and banana cakes sounds yummy....is there a slice for each of us? GrinGrin

resipsa · 09/09/2013 07:46

How're you all today. I'm having a wobble. Holding back tears 24/7. Think it's all related to my impending 43rd; age is so tied up with fertility that you can't think of one without considering the other. Spent Sat morning literally surrounded by young babies. Obliged to hold them for a bit! On one occasion got asked a question as if I was the mother Sad. If it doesn't happen for us by the end of the year, that's it and January keeps getting closer.

starsandmoonandback · 09/09/2013 07:56

Oh Res. sending you a gigantic hug. It is hard as a woman, not to feel the age/fertility thing isn't it? I always try to think its such a gradual thing that one month to the next wont make a massive difference, although its hard, as since I turned 40, the consultant seems to mention my age A LOT!! Confused

Sorry you had a difficult time at the weekend Hmm the feelings are so strong aren't they? I hope this is your year sweetie :-*

resipsa · 09/09/2013 08:03

Hi stars. That is a rational way to look at it and when I do the same I remember that I was pregnant (for a while at least) in 2010, 2011 and 2012. So, 2013 shouldn't be impossible. But I'm not rational anymore!

starsandmoonandback · 09/09/2013 08:08

Res, this is true honey. Are you getting more support with implantation/immune issues this time?

Rational thinking is hard to maintain during this process Hmm it's such an emotional roller coaster.

I hope that 2013 is your very successful year. Xxx

tametortie · 09/09/2013 08:41

have a good cry. Its the best way xxxx

maryp so sorry about your BFN xxx

We are a sorry bunch at the mo Sad

ThoughtfulOne · 09/09/2013 08:48

Brew and Cake for all.

Monday sucks and I've remembered why I hate microgynon!

BrookerC · 09/09/2013 12:54

Sending a big squeeze over Res x. There are quite a few battle weary ladies on here at the mo me included I'm getting fed up with it though so decisive action is required when I can be arsed
miss hoping to hear some lovely news from you later Smile
Good afternoon to everyone else

BrookerC · 09/09/2013 12:56

stars forgot to ask - how was the holiday? x

nobeer · 09/09/2013 13:00

oh res, have a good cry love. It's crap and doctors constantly saying "at your age" really doesn't help! I really hope this is your year too.

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nobeer · 09/09/2013 13:03

thoughtful microgynon made me fat. Fortunately it's fallen off since I stopped taking it. But I bet you 50p the clinic will tell me to start taking it again before the next FET Angry

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Badhairday76 · 09/09/2013 13:22

Hello everybody and thanks for making me feel so welcome. You have all been so lovely. Resipsa, so sorry you are feeling horrid today. I am too. I just phoned up to try to book an appointment for counselling and started weeping down the phone to the answer phone. My mum has come down to London to look after my little boy cos I still can't lift him and I hate seeing her worried concerned face.

Hugs to everybody x

starsandmoonandback · 09/09/2013 13:27

I agree a good cry is sometimes well needed!

Brooker, thanks, my hol was lovely. we went to Newquay for a week and the weather was pretty nice so spent quite a bit of time on the beach and hanging out at beach cafes. I was pretty down about the last cycle for the beginning and wasn't very good company, but the change really did me good and I realised how lucky I am in so many ways.

Nobeer, how are you doing hun? I took microgynon years ago but have no recollection of its side effects, I'm not sure I noticed those things when I was younger. Do you have to take the pill before an FET then?

Tame, how are you?

Thoughtful, hope the side effects if microgynon settles down soon. There's so much involved in this process and most of it not very nice! I have only just recovered from being so ill in my 2ww! It took me over 3 weeks to feel better urgh! Ivf just makes me ill every time Hmm

Res, how are you feeling this afternoon.

Hi to everyone else Smile

starsandmoonandback · 09/09/2013 13:30

Badhair, we crossed posts. Sending you a big hug hun. So sorry you're feeling so sad today Hmm hope you get the counselling booked so you can let some more of your emotions out. :-*

nobeer · 09/09/2013 14:04

Hi stars, nice to see you back (although I wish you didn't have to come back!). I had to take microgynon between the EC and FET (it was about 5 or 6 weeks). No idea why, they said something about it being good for the uterus. As FET didn't work last time, maybe they'll try a different approach for the next FET. Will find out soon.

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nobeer · 09/09/2013 14:05

badhair good luck with the counselling, someone on here said that counselling at their clinic was really good, and they really recommended it. You've been through so much, it's quite right that you need some extra help and support.

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starsandmoonandback · 09/09/2013 14:32

Nobeer, ill keep my fingers crossed you don't have to take it this time Smile