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fab feeling bit better thanks. I don't think I really understood what a "rollercoaster of emotions" reallly meant until we started IVF!

Oh Brooker, how crap for you. I know nothing about cysts- do they need treating or go away with time?

Llw is it your baseline scan you have booked? I hope AF rocks up soon so you can get on with things.

Twinks I have temped for ages- thermometer on bedside table next to clock, which has a button that turns on a little light which is just enough to see the temp by. Can't help you with he glasses conundrum though, sorry.

Choco thanks for sharing your experiences on post IVF cycles. I have no idea what is going on here- had 3 positive OPKs over rather last 3 days (never had more than 2 before) but temps are doing nothing and today I have some spotting! So maybe I'm heading for a ridiculously short anovulatory cycle Has anyone else had a similar experience?

We did manage to DTD after the first OPK but generally don't feel that trying naturally is worth it. Does anyone else bother? It seems most unlikely that a post IVF ironic BFP is going to come along.

Hello all,

Am still about, just not posting much. Sorry.

brooker sorry to hear that you have a cyst. I have had them on both of my first 2 cycles. Its a nuisance and can be a bit painful. Crap that it will hold things up.

nobeer euro so sorry to see your BFN's have been confirmed. The limbo between cycles and figuring out what went wrong and how to change it for next time is very stressful. Try to keep a bit of hope- remember for many it is a case of tweaking and changing things slightly for maximum effect. xxxx

fish Glad you are back- your posts are very often spot on.

choco hope you are ok- how are your plans coming together?

Hello also to wish respisa pip prammy nomaybe fab and all of the newbies xxx

We are plodding on here. Taking supplements and eating well. Boring really. I'm not happy or excited anymore. I'm resigned.

I was interested to see some comments made about treatment for DC2+ etc vs. treatment without children. I want to give my view on this because with a 10 year old daughter, its very close to home. I know many of you are TTC DC1 and I can appreciate that this must be painful-fab hit the nail on the head when she said about a recent social event with lots of families and children and feeling isolated and left out. Somebody I work with said its like everyone knowing a secret and you not knowing and being on the outside looking in.

However, I also know the pain of having a child and feeling that there will be no more, I cant give her a brother or sister, being tormented by 'only child' comments and having 4 chairs at my dining table and feeling there is a 'guest' missing.

I think we all carry a burden, a horrible emptiness. For some the pain is different- they have never seen a positive pregnancy test, they can get pregnant but have miscarriages, they are trying for DC3 and it wont happen etc. etc. The list is endless- on the journey of creating a family there are many stories and tales of woe. It doesn't make the pain any less, its just different and hurts in a different way.

Just had to put that out there xxx

Well put Tame, as ever. As another one with seconday infertility, one of the things that has hit me is that I can't run away from young family situations (that is not a barbed comment re your experience, Fab, I totally understand why you did!). Pretty much all social occassions involve friends with children, babies or pregnancies and everywhere we go with DD there are more. The afternoon of my BFN found me in a soft play centre trying to stop myself working out the age gaps between all the sibling children running around there. And running around together- whereas I had to be the playmate for DD, as unless we arrange to meet up with other children DP and I have to be her playmates. That in particular makes me feel so sad for her.

That said, I realise how lucky I am to have her and to have experienced pregnancy, birth and babyhood. And one thing I can honestly say is that I am never properly jealous of any of my fertile friends because I really don't want their baby or their pregnancy- just my own.

Sorry, rambling on there, must get on with some work!

Brooker am so sorry to hear about your cyst. Hope that your appointment tomorrow is helpful and positive about what to do next
Tame I completely agree with miss - very very well put.

Hi to nobeer euro fish fab twinks and llw and to everyone else as well, even if you are just lurking

AFM I went for my blood test today. brooker I have no idea if it is Standard and I'm sure that I didn't have to go on my first IVF cycle. Maybe it's something they have brought in recently???? Anyway have just had a phone call from the clinic and they say that my Hormone Levels are a Little low. Now they want me to take 4 instead of 3 progynova (is that the same in the UK?), continue taking the fanny bullets as usual and go into tomorrow and Friday for an injection in my arse - they did mention the Name but have no idea what it was. Do you think this is a good sign? Would they go to this trouble if the Embryo hadn't stuck? I tried to get some info out of the woman but she was keeping very tight lipped. Am trying really really hard not to over Analyse every twinge, mood swing or foof-wipe (tmi?) - but failing terribly....

Hello buddies! Just had a bit of a read back, what a terrible run of luck, there has been. So sorry for all the recent negatives. Massive good luck with finding your feet again. It can take a while, we had planned a trip away, so drank wine, ate smelly cheese and hiked up some wonderful mountains, that helped. But generally doing what you like out of the forbidden list can be helpful.

Thanks for the welcome, the potted history is 3.3 years TTC, completely unexplained, both 34 (by now!) BFP and mc at 7+4 last summer after SO+IUI. After another three negative rounds of SO+IUI, first IVF this summer, chem pregnancy with 6 in the freezer. Frostie round started on Sat, au natural with trigger.

Keeping stuff crossed for those PUPO and those stabbing. IN fact for all of you. Will take some time to get into the thread as there are so many of you!

Thx for advice on temping ladies, will try again tomorrow! Third time lucky I hope!!

Also keeping my fingers crossed for all those who are PUPO and cycling at the moment. This thread must be due some good news!

I've had a couple of days thinking and I do really want a second baby so I guess when I comes down to it I've got to go for it despite my feeling that for me it won't work. I have also Poas this month - I seem to be addicted - and shockingly it was a BFN. I'm only 8dpo but I already know I won't be so why do I put myself through it?!

I've accepted I will be largely going it alone, my limit is twice and then I think I have to draw a line under it. I have a bit of an addictive personality and I am a bit worried i will get the "one more try" mentality. I want my ds to have a sibling and I want a baby again myself. Desperately. I know what someone said upthread means, always feeling as though someone is missing. If I don't try then I think I will regret it. And surely single mothers put themselves through it don't they? Sometimes? I will take the counselling sessions at the clinic and come on here for support if that's ok. As I said I'm not telling anyone irl apart for, dh and my mom and as neither are supportive I'm going to have to look out for myself.

Good luck again to all those ladies currently cycling, you all deserve the very best x x x

And can everyone just reassure me it's really really rare to die from Ivf? It sounds silly but that's my main worry!i told dh and he said "well you might get run over by a bus tomorrow" which wasn't very helpful.

Ivf creates life. I have never heard of anyone dying through it so I wouldn't worry about that. Good luck!

*from it. Please excuse my pigeon English

Apparently it's possible, from OHSS, but it must be really really rare? I can deal with physical pain and discomfort as long as I know I won't die. I want t sibling for son but I don't want to leave him without a mother, especially as his dad is shit!

hello still I had worries about how ivf might affect or be arffected by my pre-existing conditions, or how my meds might interfere so I do understand your concerns. We went to a couple of clinics for an initial consultation and one just dismissed our questions which really put us off them. The other clinic seemed far more understanding and listened to our worries, so we went with them. If you're paying for ivf I do recommend shopping around until you feel comfortable. We're not machines, we're all different and it's important to feel that you're being treated as an individual patient, not just as a baby making machine.
Please do come back for support. sorry your DH can't do that for you.

brooks I'm so at that cyst for you. What happens next?

tame thank you re the assessment of me I'm blushing. And regarding the previous kids thing - you are right pain/heartache isn't a competition. I've had been questioning whether a bfn would have been easier than a bfp miscarriage for a while, then wondered why I was trying to measure up two shit situations? It isn't a competition. For all I know the bfn may have been worse. I think that point is valid in relation to who has it worse - I refuse to measure pain.

still I'm so glad to see you back! I was scared that we had scared you off. I asked how old you were if you didn't mind sharing? Please do not feel obliged to. nobeer (hey) has made good points, but I just wanted to add that: 1. You won't be the first diabetic they have seen and in fact they may have some ideas. 2. Do you have a diabetes doc/consultant? They may have relevant knowledge relating to IVF and diabetes.

I still think you should post on the relationships thread regardless. Maybe leave out the IVF bit as they will jump on that. But I'm concerned for you re the unsupportive mum then unsupportive DH. Its ringing loud bells for me. I've pushed you enough on that I won't comment again unless absolutely necessary as I wouldn't want to make you uncomfortable. .

Fish.x

still I'm not sure if I had OHSS (lost in translation) but they diagnosed it really quickly, and monitored me daily with both scans and blood tests. They then froze the embryos to give me time to recover. My clinic took the cautious route, and I think that's what most clinics would do.

Hello everyone else, hope you have had good weekends etc.

Question: its 4 weeks tomorrow since I started bleeding (mc). I've not had a period and I'm a rigid 28 days, 29 at most (never make it to 30 unless its to my disadvantage).

At what point should I worry?

I'm 31.

You haven't scared me off, you are all very sensible! And kind.

I can't seem to get past feeling so bitter about it all but I suppose I need to try and let it go. It is what it is, feeling bitter wont change it. I'm really angry with my dh, not only is it the fact his sperm are sub par that means I have to do this, he can't even be supportive.
Part of me occasionally considers leaving him and finding someone else (I know that's awful) but I think at 31 I've probably left that too late anyway.

The clinic didn't seem to know much about Ivf and diabetes. I guess if only 1% of population is type 1 diabetes, and only half of those are women. Then only a small percentage of the population go through Ivf so I guess it's fairly rare. I have an appointment with the diabetes consultant mid September so I'm waiting to see what she says.

OK, moron alert as what I am about to post is mad and ridiculous. After my 4th consecutive positive OPK I thought what the hell? And POAS- apparently I am pregnant

I don't get this- I had a 3 day period after my supposed positive at 9dp5dt which I concluded was the tail end of the trigger. I did the OTD test at 13dp5dt which was negative (although to be fair I barely glanced at it so may have missed a faint positive). Since then I've had no symptoms, had mediocre temps and only did the first OPK as I thought I felt ov pain. Oh and then some spotting today.

I suppose it's most likely a chemical but will try and get a beta test out of someone tomorrow. Feeling thoroughly bemused....... Surely this can't be happening?

Hi still I'm sorry if my post sounded dismissive about your concerns. That isn't how I meant it to come across. I just wanted to put your mind at rest. It seems to me that you have an awful lot on your plate at the moment. Hope that you can speak to a Dr who can put your mind at rest.

Miss just read your message. Have no idea at all but keeping everything crossed for that test tomorrow.

Miss - result! Fx!

Fish my consultant said give it 8 (yes, 8!) weeks before becoming worried. Mine arrived after 7.

Lots of interesting stuff on here over the last few ads which I've missed, as usual!

Particularly interested in the DC1 or 1+ exchanges. I accept that not to have any and be on here must be so hard. It took us a year to conceive DD but the longing for the first disappeared when she arrived and now I can't really remember what it felt like. I think that I can say, however, that the longing for DC2 is as intense if different. And one big difference as discussed earlier is the inability to avoid things baby or child related. You literally cannot forget it even for a few hours as they are constants in your life. And when DD was watching some siblings play in the park yesterday then came over to me and said she was lonely, I felt that my heart had been ripped out

For ads read days, pls.

As for the supportive husbands, I have to say that I envy many f you but accept what I have. I'm not the most supportive spouse so to cry over lack of it would be a bit hypocritical.