If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 3)

[fedupofrainydays]

Still here, still ttc, still POAS, still symptom spotting, still counting days, still temping, still shagging and still absolutely nutty!!!

Hey guys. Sorry to hear about af sebsmum, at least lp is getting back to normal. All the time I was breastfeeding my lp was very short - even wheb down to two feeds a day.

Wow dild, that drink sounds rank. I would drink horseshit if I got a baby at the end of it, though.

Fedup, sorry to hear about bfn. Hoping you ovd late and there is a bfp coming up? Thinking of you.

I went back into work today and my boss hauled me in asking me wtf happened on friday. I had to tell her the truth. She looked panicked (people drop like flies where I work, and it's particularly bad atm). I'm pleased in a way as if I have a mc I want to be able to walk out of there asap. Got a scan tomorrow to see what's up. Had brown spotting and blood for 5 days but appears to have stopped today so I can't be too hopeful but can't help be a bit hopeful. I am in early preg limbo land again. Ffs.

Lots of love to you all XXXX

Glad you told your boss geta think that's the right thing to do. Priority is you and your baby! Good luck for the scan, will be thinking of you.

Still no af and literally been checking my knickers every 10 mins. If it doesn't turn up tomorrow I'm officially late. I've freaked myself out by reading stuff that says if you implant late (ie 11 dpo plus) then more likely to miscarry (80% of late implanters don't make it). Why do I do this to myself????? Still cramping though so reckon this af is just a slow starter... Ugh.

sebs not sure bout new thread for November. Can we just stick with this one til it runs out? New threads for months remind me of the 'bus' threads for each month and I would rather not keep getting chucked off buses every month. Bfn and af arrival is bad enough as it is!!

Hope everyone is ok and dildoos that drink is starting to taste nicer for you....

geta I have my fingers crossed that all is fine at your scan, I really do. You did the right thing telling work.
fedup You just never know. It could be just early for a BFP. My DP is due to go for a hospital 'visit' soon, he's dreading it! I'd love to go private but we just couldn't scrape together £5k, hardly any spare at the moment.

sebs I'm sorry you were upset at the weekend. Its the silly things isn't it. We took the baby gate down this weekend and it just seemed so final and sad. I may look into acupuncture too, I'd try anything including the aforementioned horseshit!
Zippy Hi and welcome

Well I've had a shit day. Another friend announced her second pregnancy and her DD is younger than mine.
Also, my DD is 3.5. We had quite a boring weekend (saving up, rubbish weather etc) and she was bored at home and playing up. I think she gets fed up playing her pretend games with mummy and daddy. She would be such a lovely big sister. She is patient and kind and fun and inventive and I cannot let myself believe she will be an only child. I'm pretty low about it all at the moment.

Evening all sorry 3 piece for your friend news it doesn't come easier!
Fedup I have everything crossed and my hair plaited for you and a bfp !!
Gets telling your boss was a good think back up and all is good!
As for the drink that is to be had tomorrow night
Hugs to all xx

3piece I so know how you feel. Ds tries to play with me but gets frustrated when I'm not very inventive. I took him to soft play yesterday (don't work Mondays) and he dragged me round the whole thing wanting me to chase him and would be so nice for him to have a sibling to chase him instead of clumsy old me.

Feel af is on her way still. But if she doesn't arrive today I will test tomorrow. Been awake since 4 am over thinking it all :( I am sitting on train thinking she's arrived. Horrible feeling isn't it!
then our road had a powercut so I have got ready in the dark. I imagine my blusher is overly bright and all over my face.

Ds has croup too. So going to need to come home early today to relieve DH who is on duty this morn. Going to go down well with work!
I'm thinking of leaving work. Reminds me of my mc too much. Got a plan to set up my own business. Quite excited about it and spent yesterday pm researching. I need something else to focus on other than ttc too!

The only way we can afford private is my grandma died and left me some money. I know we are so lucky with that gift. It's supposed to be going on our house improvements but no point in having a bigger house if no more children to fill it so am going to spend it on trying to get up duffed. I'm sure grandma would have wanted more great grandchildren

Also, 50% of fertility issues are down to the man so we should do more about getting them tested hence why I sent DH to the hospital. We have to have intrusive scans with the willy cam, needles and general prodding, all they have to do is wank in a pot!!!!!

Massive hugs to you today geta, it will be absolutely fine I'm sure of it xxxx

Made the mistake of reading about secondary infertility yesterday. God what a depressing little read that was. Apparently it's as common as primary infertility and often worse because the woman is obviously older second time around!

I try to console myself that my sister conceived both her children in her forties and we must share a few genes!

Fed up isn't it past your AF day now? Could this be good news do you think? Least I've had an 11 day LP and then a 12 day one so I can kind of guess when AF should appear. Before I thought I was late when I wasn't.

Well I think today is the day I fully wean. Yesterday he just had a morn feed and it was for seconds, he just isn't interested. So cows milk it is.

If I think about it too much I will get upset, so instead I am going to concentrate on the fact I'm now giving myself 100% chance of normalising my hormones so I can give him a sibling. I didn't want to get another three months down the line and be kicking myself that I should have quit earlier. If he was interested, I would find the situation more heart breaking I'm sure, but as it is he never asks and I know won't even notice. It's like he enjoys the concept of it, and gets excited if he sees booby, but if he latches on he just bobs straight off again 10 secs later.

Anyway, enough of that.......

Re acupuncture I am not entirely sure how it works. I imagine they are looking at your body as a whole and trying to normalise hormones and unblock channels. I like alternative therapies so have no problem with any of it really aside from the extra expense. I think anything that promotes a positive frame of mind and encourages better diet can only be a good thing really.

Ok still no af. What's going on??? Starting to wonder if I ovulated at all and this is just a annovulatory cycle. I POAS this morn once got to work but bfn but I hardly had any wee in me (control line still came up tho so assume ok)
I don't even feel like af is coming any more. No cramps either. So not pregnant and no af.

geta any news? Been thinking of you loads...

Fed up. I was reading threads the other day, can't remember where are there was someone who's period was late and kept bfn-ing, went to the docs and she wasn't ovulating. I think she went on Clomid in the end and conceived first cycle. Have they investigated whether you are def ovulating? You said this month that you didn't get a good bbt chart to indicate ovulation.

Fedup, that's odd. Did you have any idea of ov date this month?

We had good news at the epu, sac has grown as expected and there is a yolk sac, measurements put me at 5+4 which is in line with my ov date, but two days behind lmp. As much as we're massively relieved and beginning to get excited, I don't feel we're over the hurdle yet. Won't feel relaxed until I've got a baby I think.

Lots of love to you all - I can't tell you how helpful it is to have such a kind bunch of women here to talk to going through the same things X

This is my first month of temping and first month in a while I've not got af when expected (it was last late in June by 3 days). FF is telling me I ovulated on Monday 21 oct, also day of pos opk.
I've had a progesterone test, and was in line with ovulation. It was level of 50 (whatever than means) plus on my scan they saw a corpus luteam which you only get with ov. So I think I'm ovulating but maybe not this cycle???? Who bloody knows :( going to the doctors on thurs / fri if still no af.

Could it be all messed up from my biopsy?

Great news geta so pleased for you!!!

I also read that sometimes when it's twins it doesn't show on hpt.... Ha ha ha! As if!

Geta great news!!!! Oh I'm so pleased for you.

Oooh well let's see fed up. I've also read threads where people haven't got a positive pregnancy test until they are over a week late. Are you getting any symptoms at all?

great news geta.

fedup, with my first it took ages to show up on a hpt.

i am also waiting for af, which is unusually late, which makes me wonder if the ov test last week showing progesterone of 3 was just done too early. it has been a v stressful month for other reasons so maybe cycle was longer than usual. clutching at straws again.

The 2 ww is bad enough, never mind an extended one. Not really any symptoms, I had more last week! Just a bit thirsty (hot office), head aches (working), tired (but always am) and sometimes tingly boobs (I get this randomly in cycle tho anyway). All cm has dried up too so I really don't know what to think. Going to try wait til fri before I panic and call the doctor but as we know I'm rubbish at waiting...

Really zippy? How late with dc 1 was your bfp?
Maybe that's what happening for you again and not late ov? Hope so.

I just find it hard to believe that's the case with me though as last two pregnancies came up strong bfps on day period was due.

I got an implantation bleed the day after AF was due but got a bfn just before that. The positive came a week later, this though the bleeding had fooled me for a couple of days and stopped me testing. Fingers crossed for you but it sounds possible.

I hadn't even thought of it this time but it seems unlikely with such a low progesterone score. Very rare for late AF though. Yesterday the GP dismissed low progesterone as being something that they could do little about and I was devastated that it was game over but having looked around on here I now see that breastfeeding can indeed affect ovulation and the luteal phase. I get strong OV symptoms though it is late in the cycle. Now I've stopped I expect we will see again, but it is giving me hope that this cycle is just a randomly long one.

That's not true what the doc said about the low progesterone. They check that to see if you are ovulating and low signals you aren't (or tested too early in your case perhaps). They can treat non ovulators!

Thank you fedup. I'm seeing the usual GP next week. She was v helpful in testing even though I had only been trying 6 cycles then she ordered the bloods and scan. Bloods at day 3 were normal as was scan. But it is useful to know it can be treated. I'd decided to get a private appointment next week with a consultant (looks like it is £200)but I think I should wait until I see the usual GP first and also see when AF shows up first. Really hope you get BFP soon.

Woohoo geta chuffed for you!!! Loving this news!!!

Fed up just so you know got all my bfps 3 days late and not before so I have everything crossed for you !

Hey all hope alls good!

How cold was it today brrrrrrrrrrr I feel snow coming on soon .

Had the vile drink tonight down in 3 goes!!!! Getting good :-) only gagged the once!!! X

So seen some blood this morn. All over for this cycle. :(
Sad and relieved at same time as of af didn't turn up but still bfn I wasn't sore what I would do.
Tired, miserable, very fed up and just sad is how I would describe myself now :(

Sounds as though you might have ovulated a little later this month fed up. Loads of hugs xxxxxx

I'm delurking this month to send a few hugs. To sebsmummy and fedup - another month we plod along this dreadful rollercoaster, but I hope we get a triple whammy this month. To Geta - that's fab news and I've got fingers crossed for you. Hi to everyone else x

Thanks. I'm not hopeful for me this month but I am for everyone else! My approach this month is ditching all the sticks and thermometers and going back to basics. I conceived twice when not thinking about it much so thinking that's possibly my answer. How easy that will be I don't know. Plus I'm going back to the doctor. I want to get the science involved now its been a year!

Good girl, big waves to 2beornot

My approach this month is more sex lol. Alternate day sex starting from tonight, ramped up over ovulation and then some alternate days after. No twice in one days as apparently the sperm needs more time to mature. Apparently best times are between 7 and 9pm as our CM is most fluid. Oh I'm also doing cough medicine, Robisson red box.

If we don't get a BFP this month then I am going to give opks a miss for December as I think I'll have a good idea of my cycle by then.

Feel ok though. No breast feeding yesterday and I didn't miss it and don't think Sebby did either really.

We had a month off this month. We were both ill over ovulation time so missed it, but it was good to take the pressure of for a month and af coming wasn't as upsetting as usual. Right back on it this month though!